Spoiler: OMG Tobi is! - Page 9

The Immortal Watch Dog · 08-29-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cult of Personality

Although I really doubt it because this would require Kishi to not be a hack, maybe Tobi is actually Obito's father which is why they look alike (other than the obvious fact of Kishi being a hack).

When his son was killed he went crazy as Uchihas are prone to doing, and decided that genjutsuing the entire world would somehow bring his son back.

You know what? That'd be awesome

too bad Kishi is too horrific to write it

Uchiha Sora · 08-29-2012, 05:20 PM

@Cult If we had been introduced to Obitos father I Would go for that too. But it being someone we didn't know already would be pretty anti-climatic IMO

puppetmasterpossession · 08-29-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ObitoUchiha

angry? Angry as.... a bunch of birds?

I loved it!

Yes, that angry.

I have never been trolled this hard in my life.

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Originally Posted by Devroux

Town Bookstore overflowed with these earlier today.

Really? I figured it would be.

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Originally Posted by Jonesy

You're like the 9,000th person to post a thread like this.

*<9000th

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Originally Posted by ILIKEPIE

That number gets me angry too

-.-

zerosameri · 08-29-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Devroux

Town Bookstore overflowed with these earlier today.

And I have merg them all into my pre made rage thread.

Raiden · 08-29-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wooster

I agree

KAKSHI WAS 6 WHEN HE WAS MADE CHUNIN

What can I say, Kakashi was a strong 6 year old

Vex · 08-29-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by puppetmasterpossession

I have never been trolled this hard in my life.

If you need grief counseling, I'm right here. It hit me right in the feels too. I've been sitting in my own

/piss since I read it.

Wooster · 08-29-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiden

What can I say, Kakashi was a strong 6 year old

Kakashi? Anko was smoking for a three year old

Vatanui AKA Pride · 08-29-2012, 06:54 PM

Let's be honest: We, each to a different degree, all expected something like this to happen again once Kishi trolled us by saying that Itachi was the savior of Konoha three years ago.

ObitoUchiha · 08-29-2012, 06:55 PM

Being an oldest brother myself, Itachi has been a favorite. Even when evil.

Firechakra · 08-29-2012, 08:51 PM

I know this is rage-enducing for some people, but what I wanna know is why people are so angry. Who else could Tobi have been?

Crystal Marionette · 08-30-2012, 12:00 AM

I read it this morning and I was like, 'The fk did I just read?'

Rasen_Chidori · 08-30-2012, 05:08 AM

I find it amusing that people are getting so upset over it

Noctis Arashi · 08-30-2012, 05:10 AM

Personally, I'm fine with it. I don't get why people are so butthurt.

It's not even about the plot holes. It's about people not wanting to be wrong on the internet.

Naruto321 · 08-30-2012, 07:34 AM

People are being butthurt because they can't believe that Tobi is Obito. They just have to wait for the explanation of why he's Tobi. Its gonna be a big one too

SilentBlade · 08-30-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Naruto321

People are being butthurt because they can't believe that Tobi is Obito. They just have to wait for the explanation of why he's Tobi. Its gonna be a big one too

I agree, every 10th chapter tends to be something major, so I believe chaoter 600 (being a 10th and 100th) will be insane! Lets hope some great action and commentary come out of it! Even if its not Obito talking! It could have something to do with where Sasuke is going and what it all means could be revealed there also...would be interesting.

deidara330 · 08-30-2012, 10:30 AM

I was surprised. Admittedly, I am a little upset, just because up until now, Tobi/Madara's character has been inconsistent with Obito's and I can't figure how he would become the type of person he is now. In Kakashi Chronicles, Obito was essentially the Team Minato version of Naruto. (As is perhaps a little too common in Naruto, there is generally a Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura equivalent in every team.) Given how many evil people Naruto himself has changed, it's hard to see how someone so like Naruto would become evil.

Although, objectively, Obito is probably the best person to have take on Tobi's identity. The major ideology behind Tobi's character, which is easiest to compare to that of the Templar in Assassin's Creed, is that there is no hope for humanity to move forward and achieve a peaceful existance on its own, because when given free will humans will always choose to do the evil thing so long as it benefits themselves. As a result, free will must be taken away. Although not explicitly stated, Obito is not the type of person to have adopted such a form of thinking.

The impact of this revelation is thusly that people become shocked that Obito is Tobi, because it's just as unbelievable to the reader as it is to the characters themselves. Furthermore, if Obito's change is shown in a believable way, a chain of events seen from the eyes of someone dead to the world, then the impact of Obito's current ideology is given much more weight. This is someone who not only believes that humanity is hopeless, but is someone who was previously beloved for his hope and lost it because of the awful nature of reality.

It's not as much a great plot twist in the sense of "didn't see that coming" because most of the Naruto fan base, at some point, believed Tobi was Obito, and the author himself didn't try to hide it much. It's more a plot twist in the sense of sheer shock that it was someone who it shouldn't have been, because not only should the person be dead, but the person shouldn't believe a word of anything he's said since his appearance.

The other problem is how Obito survived, but that's really an easy explanation. Zetsu used Mayfly to take his body and Madara used Hashirama's DNA to repair him, as it would seem by the change to parts of his face.

Spark · 08-30-2012, 12:36 PM

looks like some people need to start apolgizing for doubting the people who said tobi wasnt obito and calling those people that believed it names

Naruto321 · 08-30-2012, 12:46 PM

No need.

We did our part for saying it isn't. But even though it failed, I still have hope that something big is coming.

Lord Jiraiya · 08-30-2012, 03:37 PM

How could he have encouraged Yahiko to form the Akatsuki Obito couldnt have been born when the Akatsuki was was formed during Second war or post second war before the third war.

Obito would have been to young.

Ag_Surfr · 08-31-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikudo Sennin

Seriously guys ? Just because he released a chapter confirming that Tobi is Obito, you will be angry at him and you will stop reading Naruto ? Why dont you wait for the explanation in the next few chapters ?, these explanation might help us to understand why Tobi is Obito. Perhaps, he might release a movie or special episode like Kakashi Gaiden.

Take note we're just readers so we should respect the author of the manga we read.

A true Naruto fan will still read the manga even after reading Chapter 599.

you know, those people are just from the "if it's not what i had predicted, thus making my theory wrong, i don't want to read it!" camp.

08-29-2012, 05:20 PM	#162
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08-29-2012, 08:51 PM	#170
Firechakra Academy Graduate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 99 Rep Power: 7	Re: OMG Tobi is! I know this is rage-enducing for some people, but what I wanna know is why people are so angry. Who else could Tobi have been?

08-30-2012, 12:00 AM	#171
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deidara330 Mr. Serious Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Everywhere and Nowhere. Posts: 14,489 Rep Power: 14	Re: OMG Tobi is! I was surprised. Admittedly, I am a little upset, just because up until now, Tobi/Madara's character has been inconsistent with Obito's and I can't figure how he would become the type of person he is now. In Kakashi Chronicles, Obito was essentially the Team Minato version of Naruto. (As is perhaps a little too common in Naruto, there is generally a Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura equivalent in every team.) Given how many evil people Naruto himself has changed, it's hard to see how someone so like Naruto would become evil. Although, objectively, Obito is probably the best person to have take on Tobi's identity. The major ideology behind Tobi's character, which is easiest to compare to that of the Templar in Assassin's Creed, is that there is no hope for humanity to move forward and achieve a peaceful existance on its own, because when given free will humans will always choose to do the evil thing so long as it benefits themselves. As a result, free will must be taken away. Although not explicitly stated, Obito is not the type of person to have adopted such a form of thinking. The impact of this revelation is thusly that people become shocked that Obito is Tobi, because it's just as unbelievable to the reader as it is to the characters themselves. Furthermore, if Obito's change is shown in a believable way, a chain of events seen from the eyes of someone dead to the world, then the impact of Obito's current ideology is given much more weight. This is someone who not only believes that humanity is hopeless, but is someone who was previously beloved for his hope and lost it because of the awful nature of reality. It's not as much a great plot twist in the sense of "didn't see that coming" because most of the Naruto fan base, at some point, believed Tobi was Obito, and the author himself didn't try to hide it much. It's more a plot twist in the sense of sheer shock that it was someone who it shouldn't have been, because not only should the person be dead, but the person shouldn't believe a word of anything he's said since his appearance. The other problem is how Obito survived, but that's really an easy explanation. Zetsu used Mayfly to take his body and Madara used Hashirama's DNA to repair him, as it would seem by the change to parts of his face.

08-30-2012, 12:36 PM	#177
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