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Old 08-22-2012, 08:39 AM   #1
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Wouldn't it be an interesting thought if Tobi turned out to be Rin? I know I know, "but he's not a girl" well that said we all saw just how girly Haku was, even though Haku was a guy! We know that Tobi knows Kakashi's past, we know that Tobi knew where to find Obito in the rubble, and we know that Tobi has the medical ninjutsu knowledge to do an eye transplant...

So the motive? we saw Rin after Obito died, we also saw that when she professed her love to Kakashi, not only did he turn her down , he told her that if it were up to him, he'd have left her for dead...There is quite a bit of motive here because (like pain) she'd been betrayed several times..

Its a crazy crackpot theory but here's to it!!

Edit: We also saw that Tsunade is able to alter her physical form with the use of a type of medical jutsu..just saying..
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It would be very interesting. We would know what became of her.But I don't think she'd have a reason to have two Sharingan eyes.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:18 AM   #3
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It would be very interesting. We would know what became of her.But I don't think she'd have a reason to have two Sharingan eyes.
2? she has a TON of them if its her. When we saw the scene in which Sasuke is getting Itachi's eyes transplanted in, we saw Tobi's work area, and all those sharingan behind him...The reason for having Obito's could simply be sentimental.
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Well, let's assume Haku was like MJ.

I don't think Kishi will make Tobi Rin, unless he wants to jump the shark while nuking the fridge
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I'm sure though that somebody would notice her slip away into the darkness to go take his eye.

It would be an interesting twist!
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Wouldn't it be an interesting thought if Tobi turned out to be Rin? I know I know, "but he's not a girl" well that said we all saw just how girly Haku was, even though Haku was a guy! We know that Tobi knows Kakashi's past, we know that Tobi knew where to find Obito in the rubble, and we know that Tobi has the medical ninjutsu knowledge to do an eye transplant...

So the motive? we saw Rin after Obito died, we also saw that when she professed her love to Kakashi, not only did he turn her down , he told her that if it were up to him, he'd have left her for dead...There is quite a bit of motive here because (like pain) she'd been betrayed several times..

Its a crazy crackpot theory but here's to it!!

Edit: We also saw that Tsunade is able to alter her physical form with the use of a type of medical jutsu..just saying..
This makes some sense but I don't believe Rin has that good of skill.
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Haku was like MJ, except he was more androgynous for one reason or another. The reason I'd think Rin may have been were a few things that caught my attention through the series that just bugged me. First of all, we know Rin was exceptional strong, we were told she was able to resist the genjutsu used to extract information. We also know at a young age she was actually able to do a successful transplant of an eye from one person to another on the fly!

Also remember, Rin's skill over time certainly left a lot of questions as well. Tobi didn't make an appearance until much later! Time to develop skill isn't that hard to come by when you simply disappear. Also, surrounding Kakashi Gaiden, during the battle he passed out...that said, with the time it took Minato to fight, who is to say that the other eye was not accessible at the time? Its quite possible that something happened to shift the rubble in a battle that big.

edit: Jumping the shark while nuking the fridge!!...I am pretty sure that's something I'd like to see lol!

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Haku was like MJ, except he was more androgynous for one reason or another. The reason I'd think Rin may have been were a few things that caught my attention through the series that just bugged me. First of all, we know Rin was exceptional strong, we were told she was able to resist the genjutsu used to extract information. We also know at a young age she was actually able to do a successful transplant of an eye from one person to another on the fly!

Also remember, Rin's skill over time certainly left a lot of questions as well. Tobi didn't make an appearance until much later! Time to develop skill isn't that hard to come by when you simply disappear. Also, surrounding Kakashi Gaiden, during the battle he passed out...that said, with the time it took Minato to fight, who is to say that the other eye was not accessible at the time? Its quite possible that something happened to shift the rubble in a battle that big.

edit: Jumping the shark while nuking the fridge!!...I am pretty sure that's something I'd like to see lol!
Similar to the recent Rin thread posted a few days ago. But you are not correct with Rin resisting genjutsu. Not if you meant she was putting up more than a small fight, and definitely didn't block it kakko and Obito confirmed that she was under genjutsu. Kakko patted her on the head and said "you're unexpectedly stubborn." Unless you have a different translation, that line and his body language suggest he thinks it's pathetic. Obito then arrives with kakashi and says her chakra "is irregular." And kakashi suggests she might be under genjutsu. Kakko later traps them in the stone and said they were "weird for information"

There is some grey area to "stubborn," but she was on the losing end.
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Similar to the recent Rin thread posted a few days ago. But you are not correct with Rin resisting genjutsu. Not if you meant she was putting up more than a small fight, and definitely didn't block it kakko and Obito confirmed that she was under genjutsu. Kakko patted her on the head and said "you're unexpectedly stubborn." Unless you have a different translation, that line and his body language suggest he thinks it's pathetic. Obito then arrives with kakashi and says her chakra "is irregular." And kakashi suggests she might be under genjutsu. Kakko later traps them in the stone and said they were "weird for information"

There is some grey area to "stubborn," but she was on the losing end.
You are correct, I read a bit further into the stubborn part of it..but I think it still shows an uncharacteristic strength which he did not expect her to have. Being under a genjutsu is once thing, but resisting its implied purpose is something else completely. While she may have been trapped in the genjutsu she certainly was able to fight off the advances of it a bit more than what was expected.
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Very interesting. I will make this my third theory.

First being two masked villains.
Masked Man, donning the flames, is Kagami, whilst Tobi is Kagami's son, Obito.

Second being Tobi is simply Kagami, while he tried to save his son by making him Zetsu.

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I've actually got one more where I believe he is Nawaki! The more I thought about it, the more I believe that is one I like even more than this one! Some part of me wants him to be a Senju! but who is to say Rin wasn't :-p
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Bah! I like this more than Nawaki... This one I see and actually have as one of my three current theories. NOT LOOKING AT SPOILERS MUST READ MYSELF
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Rin very well could have been a Senju. They do say that the Hashirama was a skilled medical ninja, as well as Tsunade!
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If tobi is nawaki....
Then who was phone?!

Then why not make a big deal about summoning Dan? Or heading off to tsunade himself?!
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Well, Dan was brought back, as well as not being a Senju! His actual abilities leave a lot to the imagination because we really know very little. He has the ability to go spirit form and do damage I guess? But Nawaki is the grandson of the 1st Hokage! and we have no idea how the 1st Hokage died, or what ever happened to the rest of the Senju (except Tsunade).

Also, the other reason I use Nawaki was his ties to Orochimaru. We know when Tobi talks to Kabuto, that Tobi is somehow tied to Orochimaru. I always look for ambiguity in the series to try and see where something may have been left a certain way on purpose. Here I would argue that his destroyed beyond recognition body was a plant, and he (like Sasuke) was corrupted by Orochimaru.
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