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Old 08-26-2012, 09:29 PM   #1
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Default Family Feud:Sand and Stone

Suna's first family vs. Iwagakure's strongest bloodline.

More specifically: Yondaime Kazekage, Gaara, Temari and Kankuro vs. Onoki, Kitsuchi and Kurotsuchi

Location: At the border between the Land of Wind and the Land of Earth. Assume that there is an abundance of both sand and solid earth at this location.

Conditions/Restrictions: Yon. Kazekage is alive (non-edo), Onoki's dust release is restricted, but he is not hampered by old age-i.e. no chakra/stamina problems or bad back.

Which family wins?
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:41 AM   #2
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Stone.

Kitsuchi sandwiches the sand.
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Stone.

Kitsuchi sandwiches the sand.
I was kind of imagining the Sand Shinobi starting out over the desert and the Stone shinobi starting out over the solid earth so they would first have to lure them over the earth. That being said I don't see how they would be crushed when they could put up a double layer of Gaara's sand and the 4th's Gold to protect them. Temari also has strong wind attacks (yes, it's lighting and not wind that's strong against earth, but Asuma's trench knife could easily go through a boulder) and Kankuro has explosives. They can also fly.
In short, the Sand has multiple methods of countering the Mountain Sandwich, although it could cost them a lot of energy to break out if they got stuck inside it.
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Gaara and his father should be able to handle the family without Onoki's dust release the stone is pretty much beat
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Meh Onoki lets the whole team fly. And makes sunas sand/gold slow as hell by making it heavy. They loldodge any sand that comes at them. and kitsuchi knock their light out skydropping rockfists(weightened by onoki) on their heads. Which they can not escape because kurotsuchi glued them.
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Meh Onoki lets the whole team fly. And makes sunas sand/gold slow as hell by making it heavy. They loldodge any sand that comes at them. and kitsuchi knock their light out skydropping rockfists(weightened by onoki) on their heads. Which they can not escape because kurotsuchi glued them.
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I don't see how flying would be an advantage for the Stone when team Sand can also fly on Gaara's sand (and likely the 4th's Gold Dust) and they're all long range specialists. In fact if team Sand takes to the skies, there is almost nothing the Stone can do to fight them. Their main strength is Earth style jutsus and IIRC Kurotsuchi is the only one with long range/projectile jutsu in the group (aside from Onoki's Jinton that is).

Onoki can't touch the Sand/Gold that attacks his family unless he's piggybacking with both of them or something and even then they would probably have a limb or worse crushed before he could make it heavy.

Gaara and his Dad attack with waves of Gold/Sand-if Onoki makes one of the waves heavy they'll attack with a different one-if Onoki were able to survive multiple attacks from the 4th Kazekage and make them all heavy then the 4th might have the problem of the slow Gold, but Gaara has a desert of sand to work with and can keep attacking with sand.

Kurotsuchi's cement attack relies on the enemy dodging and then expanding the cement with a water attack. Gaara and his Dad don't dodge attacks, they just block them so they won't be getting stuck.

I can't see Kitsuchi's weighted fist breaking through Gaara or his Dad's defense-especially if they layer their sand and gold. Also, if they use the "sky drop" tactic they have no way to defend themselves from a huge AoE wind attack from Temari and a barrage of poisoned weapons from Kankuro.
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WHAT!!!!!!!!!
That suxs!! I LOVE ONOKI. If he can not use dust release.... then this battle is over.

- They are out numbered
- Garra's sand can hold back earth sandwhich/ Kankuro can take them underground
- The sand has more feats
- If the stone go in the air then Temari uses air attacks towards the sky/ Garra takes the team up their to fight

This is soooo Unfair IMO
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WHAT!!!!!!!!!
That suxs!! I LOVE ONOKI. If he can not use dust release.... then this battle is over.

- They are out numbered
- Garra's sand can hold back earth sandwhich/ Kankuro can take them underground
- The sand has more feats
- If the stone go in the air then Temari uses air attacks towards the sky/ Garra takes the team up their to fight

This is soooo Unfair IMO
Yeah, I know it's a bit unfair. I really like both teams, but if I allowed Dust Release than it would be a stomp for the Stone and not even worth debating-the problem is that Dust Release is such a haxxed technique. I'd add in Akatsuchi to the Stone's side but he's not part of Onoki's family and I don't think he'd really contribute anything to the fight anyway. All he has is golems and Onoki can make better ones himself.
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THen by ^ that logic I guess the Sand stomps now

If Earth sandwhich works in the sand..... the stone still lose I guess
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