Naruto Tier List - Group Debate

[king kakashi]

kakashi beats tsunade and maybe jiraiya but Oro no
ET, skin shedding, and giant snakes even with kamiu that's to much
but if you consider smarts he should be where he is curently thanks to his tactics and deduction skills
he has managed to stay relevant even compared to the most haxx baddies

[JLI2infinity]

I'm just going to point out that having Suigetsu in the Kage tier is a joke. I don't see him beating one Kage level opponent except perhaps Tsunade with that drowning technique he used on Juugo. Of course she could just break his sword into pieces and then hop on Katsuyu and harass him with acid for the rest of the fight until he gets too tired to maintain his hydrification technique. Suigetsu belongs in that high tier with people like Asuma and Zabuza. He's not skilled enough to hang with the big boys.

[Devils Lawyer]

Obito goes into god tier.

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by Devils Lawyer

Obito goes into god tier.

Spoiler:

But he's already there as Tobi so no need to really change anything.

[ILIKEPIE]

no we just change Obito into young Obito leaving him where is and just put Tobi/Obito on Tobi's spot

[Shikamaru Nara]

Okay, let me know what you guys think.

I put Kakashi over SM Naruto because of Kamui.

And Gai under Kakashi because of Gates.

[BMC1994]

Doesnt SM naruto> Kakashi because of clones.

[megabbaut]

SM Naruto can't make more than two clones, otherwise it interferes with his Sage chakra time limit.

[king kakashi]

sasuke should be above sm naruto due to susanoo and ammy with just sage mode naruto would have no counter
Edit: wouldn't pain with all paths plus full health nagato be in god tier

[JLI2infinity]

Guys Naruto now has access to perfect sage mode because there will no longer be interference from Kurama therefore he is greater than both MS Sasuke and Kakashi. Also Kakashi and Gai are still equal on the tier list, to be honest I'd place Gai higher.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but as I stated before isn't the point of the tier list also a variety of opponents you'd be able to defeat or fight well against. I think that makes Gai more dangerous than Kakashi. Can anyone name an opponent Kakashi can give a hard time that Gai can't? Or better yet an opponent Kakashi can defeat that Gai can't. If I were to put Gai up against Sasori I think he'd be able to pull off a victory or at least come close but I can't say the same for Kakashi. The same thing goes for a fight against Kisame or Gaara. All of those are opponents Gai could push farther than Kakashi could. The only one that comes to mind for me currently is Deidara, I think Kakashi would fare better than Gai would. Other than that everything I said stands.

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[king kakashi]

Originally Posted by JLI2infinity

Guys Naruto now has access to perfect sage mode because there will no longer be interference from Kurama therefore he is greater than both MS Sasuke and Kakashi. Also Kakashi and Gai are still equal on the tier list, to be honest I'd place Gai higher.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but as I stated before isn't the point of the tier list also a variety of opponents you'd be able to defeat or fight well against. I think that makes Gai more dangerous than Kakashi. Can anyone name an opponent Kakashi can give a hard time that Gai can't? Or better yet an opponent Kakashi can defeat that Gai can't. If I were to put Gai up against Sasori I think he'd be able to pull off a victory or at least come close but I can't say the same for Kakashi. The same thing goes for a fight against Kisame or Gaara. All of those are opponents Gai could push farther than Kakashi could. The only one that comes to mind for me currently is Deidara, I think Kakashi would fare better than Gai would. Other than that everything I said stands.

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i'll give ou some opponents
Deva path(by himself)
sasori(the poison would kill that idiot)
deidara(kakashi can see c5)
there are probrably a few more

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by king kakashi

i'll give ou some opponents
Deva path(by himself)
sasori(the poison would kill that idiot)
deidara(kakashi can see c5)
there are probrably a few more

Seriously? Sasori? That was the opponent I used to support my point that Gai would do better than Kakashi. Even Base Gai is faster than Kakashi, He is much more likely to evade the puppets attacks when he opens a gate or two than Kakashi is. Kakashi would not be able to last that entire fight without getting a scratch and once Sasori uses his Red Secret Technique Kakashi's done for.

Deidara was the one I mentioned already >.>

Deva Path by himself??? Seriously. Morning Peacock. Deva uses ST to stop it Gai comes with his enormous speed during the five second interval, nunchaku to the skull. Deva is finished.

[king kakashi]

Originally Posted by JLI2infinity

Seriously? Sasori? That was the opponent I used to support my point that Gai would do better than Kakashi. Even Base Gai is faster than Kakashi, He is much more likely to evade the puppets attacks when he opens a gate or two than Kakashi is. Kakashi would not be able to last that entire fight without getting a scratch and once Sasori uses his Red Secret Technique Kakashi's done for.
kakashi is way better than that smart wise before sasori would even get the chance to use that kakashi would have figured out his secret
Deidara was the one I mentioned already >.>
sorry i scan things
Deva Path by himself??? Seriously. Morning Peacock. Deva uses ST to stop it Gai comes with his enormous speed during the five second interval, nunchaku to the skull. Deva is finished.

deva kept up with 4-8 tailed naruto rather well
his bursts of gravity(plus CT) make him especially dangerous to someone who rushes in without knowing what's going on
in red

[MinatoXNaruto]

^^na. Kakashi is faster than base Guy either or they're the same at the very least. Now gates Guy is faster than Kakashi

[king kakashi]

i also think there should be a new tier called mythical tier for characters who in theory(hype) are uber powerful but we have yet to see them in action at full power

this list should contain
the sage of the 6 paths
hashirama
tobirama
hiruzen(in prime)
ten tails
any other characters who fit this catagory
they would stay here until they have actual feats

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by MinatoXNaruto

^^na. Kakashi is faster than base Guy either or they're the same at the very least. Now gates Guy is faster than Kakashi

No it was stated back in Part 1 that Kakashi is slower than Base Gai, it was even confirmed in the databooks (I'm just pointing this out as supplementary evidence). Base Gai is stronger and faster than Kakashi. After Lee proceeded to put a beating on Sasuke, Gai interfered and introduced himself he then said he was Kakashi's rival and no one was taking him seriously, he proceeded to flash behind Sasuke and said he wasn't joking. Then Sasuke had that look of pure fear and shock on his face and said "He's even faster than Kakashi."

[king kakashi]

kakashi never displays his skills this way he only does things like that in a fight
i doubt that we have scratched the surface of kakashi's abilities

[TheIndigoFang]

The Sage of The Six Paths gets his own tier.

[king kakashi]

Originally Posted by king kakashi

i also think there should be a new tier called mythical tier for characters who in theory(hype) are uber powerful but we have yet to see them in action at full power

this list should contain
the sage of the 6 paths
hashirama
tobirama
hiruzen(in prime)
ten tails
any other characters who fit this catagory
they would stay here until they have actual feats

i already suggested this

[TheIndigoFang]

I'm just kiddin around.