Mei Terumi vs Yugito Nii

[Godaime Kazekage]

Originally Posted by BMC1994

wait a Sec ill try to find an manga page or something ( it atleast was heavily implied)

Ok youre partially i couldnt find an manga chapter which directly stated she has tailed best bomb but naruto chapter 520 states that the revived can their original abilitys they had in real life. And in The Jinchuuriki vs A/Naruto Fight yugito uses tailed beast bomb along with the other jinchuriki.

So either all of the jinchuriki(except gaara) had tailed beast bomb while they were alive or this a Huge plothole.

No-this was the tailed beasts controlled by Tobi that used the Bijuu Bombs, not the Jinchuriki transforming and using it of their own accord. Tobi was controlling the Bijuu with the stake things and could therefore make them use a Bijuu Dama, the jinks couldn't do that on their own (except maybe Yagura). The statement in Chapter 520 just refers to Itachi being able to use Mangekyo, Nagato the Rinnegan, and Yugito her mouse fireballs and claws, usw.

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

^ The conditions were different there so Mei can/will still get blitz.

Blitz or no blitz Mei is still not going to win

- Boil style causes damage but is not an instant kill attack
- lava is slow and is a mid/short ranged attack
- water style is the only thing Mei can do

How can mei fight such a giant foe. TBB for the win

How does Mei beat ^

Also mei has zero to no speed feats
and she only has 1 long range d ninjutsu

I want to change my vote in the poll Yugito easily wins this

[Godaime Kazekage]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

How does Mei beat ^

Also mei has zero to no speed feats
and she only has 1 long range d ninjutsu

I want to change my vote in the poll Yugito easily wins this

Well, Hidan doesn't really have any speed feats either and he and Kakuzu beat Yugito relatively unscathed. Yugito and the Nibi only use fire style attacks-Mei has powerful Suitons and can stop anything they throw at her. If Yugito tried to get close and use taijutsu on Mei she'd get melted by lava. The only problem I see for Mei here is if Yugito transforms and tries to directly attack her, but Mei's water piller jutsu would probably protect her there as well. Meanwhile the acid mist is eating away at Yugito/Nibi.

[BMC1994]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Neither Hidan nor kakuzu can tank TBB. Yugito can't use TBB, so that leaves her with giant fireball attacks.

Hidan is immortal so he can tank a TBB it would hurt like hell but he can tank it.

Kakazu depends if all his 5 hearts get detroyed or not.

Anyway atleast hidan can tank a TBB.

Originally Posted by Godaime Kazekage

Well, Hidan doesn't really have any speed feats either and he and Kakuzu beat Yugito relatively unscathed. Yugito and the Nibi only use fire style attacks-Mei has powerful Suitons and can stop anything they throw at her. If Yugito tried to get close and use taijutsu on Mei she'd get melted by lava. The only problem I see for Mei here is if Yugito transforms and tries to directly attack her, but Mei's water piller jutsu would probably protect her there as well. Meanwhile the acid mist is eating away at Yugito/Nibi.

I dont think a water jutsu would protect from the power of beast form i mean we are talking about alot of brute strenght/Power here. Mei is Probably the last of the kages i expect to solo a beast due to a lack ofspeed (A/Onoki(flight and he can disintegrate things)/resillience(Gaara/Tsunade).
Also the jutsu tailed beasts use are alot more powerfull(with a way bigger reach) then your common elemental jutsu just look at shukakus wind blast.
Unless she has a way to prevent or shut down beast form she is not going to win.

Edit: Awesome profile pic btw :P

[Godaime Kazekage]

Originally Posted by BMC1994

Hidan is immortal so he can tank a TBB it would hurt like hell but he can tank it.

Hmmm-I wonder. I don't think even Hidan would survive if he's completely vaporized.

Originally Posted by BMC1994

I dont think a water jutsu would protect from the power of beast form i mean we are talking about alot of brute strenght/Power here. Mei is Probably the last of the kages i expect to solo a beast due to a lack ofspeed (A/Onoki(flight and he can disintegrate things)/resillience(Gaara/Tsunade).
Also the jutsu tailed beasts use are alot more powerfull(with a way bigger reach) then your common elemental jutsu just look at shukakus wind blast.
Unless she has a way to prevent or shut down beast form she is not going to win.

I agree with you about Mei's chances against a Beast compared to the other Kage, but this is her most likely match up to win in a fight with a Tailed Beast due to the elemental advantage. Don't forget that Mei's water jutsu are extremely powerful as well, they're on a pretty big scale (w/out a water source), she easily shut down Madara's katon and is the freaking Mizukage. I definitely see her being able to block Matatabi's fire attacks-if Kakuzu could do it, so can Mei. Also, as I said before Hidan has no speed feats and he came out of the fight okay. The biggest problem for Mei is if Matatabi attacks her directly, but the water pillar might be able to save her there. Yugito also doesn't have control over Matatabi (at least not perfect) so she won't be thinking clearly when transformed. This is all assuming that Yugito would just transform right away instead of trying to fight Mei directly, which if she does, she'll get stomped.

Originally Posted by BMC1994

Edit: Awesome profile pic btw :P

Thx. You too

[BMC1994]

We dont know if he gets vaporized kinda funny but no one in the series has ever been hit by the Oh So Ultimate Attack TBB :P

She will probably transform at some point since mei is not an easy enemy for humans.
Although she has little feats she could easily steamroll +90% of the narutoverse excluding the omgzrikudosagewannabees.

Mei would still be easily overwhelmed with beast forms strenght. A Katon here and there to distract and bam she gets mauled to teh face.

[Kuromaki]

No, but it would kinda be logical that if TBB can obliterate mountains it can vaporize Hidan.

I can see Mei dodging a paw (unless the Matatabi is particularly fast, which we haven't seen), dumping lava on it to keep it at bay, or using Water Dragons to keep her distance.

[BMC1994]

Keeping her distance wont be easy since yugito has Twin fire balls.

I dont think mizukage can do two jutsu at the same time.

Even if she could she would run out of chakra eventually while yugito has a steady supply of bijuu chakra.

[Kuromaki]

Mei can chain jutsu, using a Water Dragon right after using Water Pillar. I don't think I remember seeing the matatabi fire off two fireballs at once in different directions. And Mei's suiton > its fire from what we have seen. If Mei plays her cards right she wait for the thing to die with acid.

[BMC1994]

I still think she gets mauled before that happens.

[Kuromaki]

I still don't. I haven't seen much speed from the matatabi to say otherwise, its not impossible to dodge 1 paw and then go on the offensive.

[PrinceofPeace]

Not even Mei could survive the zombie duo... why are we bringing this into the fight?
Also water encapment wall would not last forever
Boil is not an auto kill. Yeah it hurts and stings and eats your flesh but it would kill you after a while. Also in the bijju cloak it would take even longer

How does mei beat
- Physical attacks from a bijju
- a powerful TBB

[Ultimate combatant]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Not even Mei could survive the zombie duo... why are we bringing this into the fight?
Also water encapment wall would not last forever
Boil is not an auto kill. Yeah it hurts and stings and eats your flesh but it would kill you after a while. Also in the bijju cloak it would take even longer

How does mei beat
- Physical attacks from a bijju
- a powerful TBB

Acid was melting Sasuke's Susanoo.

She dodges, or uses acid and lava.

She dodges, doesn't let Bijuu make a powerful TBB.

Mei is not exactly slow. And just because Yugito is in Bijuu form doesn't mean she will receive no damage from Lava or Acid!!!

[BMC1994]

Mutabi could also just dodge everything and barrage her with fire balls which mei will put out. But mutabi will win this in this situation because of bijuu chakra. While mei has avarage kage chakra.

Acid was melting sasukes incomplete susanoo (i hate sasuke but that is what happened)
After it already had been damaged multiple times by the raikage and Gaara&co. Even could have probably killed him in that situation ( yeah i am exaggerating but you get the point)

I doubt Mei could survive twin fireballs barrage while getting mauled and chased by a savage giant chakra beast with powerfull claws. She just mauls right through the mist while mutabi ends up with a ugly leg. Mei becomes a human bloodstain.

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Ultimate combatant

Acid was melting Sasuke's Susanoo.

She dodges, or uses acid and lava.

She dodges, doesn't let Bijuu make a powerful TBB.

Mei is not exactly slow. And just because Yugito is in Bijuu form doesn't mean she will receive no damage from Lava or Acid!!!

Saskue was exhausted and he used the Susanoo too much and it was an imperfect form so that was a weaker version of susanoo. Lava is slow and acid would casue damage but not as much as a physical attack from a bijju

Mei is not that fast... how would she stomp a bijju from making a TBB

What are Mei's speed feats? I am not saying Yugito takes this easily. She will get hurt but not as much as Mei would take.

[Ultimate combatant]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Saskue was exhausted and he used the Susanoo too much and it was an imperfect form so that was a weaker version of susanoo. Lava is slow and acid would casue damage but not as much as a physical attack from a bijju

Mei is not that fast... how would she stomp a bijju from making a TBB

What are Mei's speed feats? I am not saying Yugito takes this easily. She will get hurt but not as much as Mei would take.

That is one of the problems. Crossing fire is usually not problem for Tailed beasts. Being hit by fire attack is different than stepping into Lava. Matatabi cannot cross it.

And neither can it go through mist. Because that mist is made of acid. Even though Susanoo was not perfect yet, it still was melting quickly and there is no reason to believe Matatabi would resist better.

Also, if Yugito goes into Tailed beast mode, she would be a big target and much easier to hit. Just like Sasuke could hit Bee with Amaterasu. Sasuke was really lucky. If Bee hadn't changed into full form but his mini-form, he'd evade Amaterasu most likely!!!

[BMC1994]

Tailed Beasts are different from normal persons im sure acid and mist wont have that much of an effect on mutabi. Lava cools and becomes solid so crossing wont be a problem. If the mist was so 1337 she would have melted madaras PS (comparable to a tailed beast). She didnt. Her trying to spare her comrades isnt relevant because she can control the acidness(lol i do not know the word for it) to not harm others. That is why Mutabi wont melt anytime soon.

Yugitos full powered bijuu form is not comparable to sasuke weakened tired and imcomplete susanoo.

Her bigger form also gives her more reach making it easier to hit mei and more power making it easier to kill mei.

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Ultimate combatant

That is one of the problems. Crossing fire is usually not problem for Tailed beasts. Being hit by fire attack is different than stepping into Lava. Matatabi cannot cross it.

Matatabi CAN cross it but major damage will be taken by the bijju!!! BUT!!!! Matatabi will still be alive and then after hitting Mei not only will she be hurt..... she will also be dead

And neither can it go through mist. Because that mist is made of acid. Even though Susanoo was not perfect yet, it still was melting quickly and there is no reason to believe Matatabi would resist better.

Same as ^ Matabi will get hurt but will not die on contact.

Also, if Yugito goes into Tailed beast mode, she would be a big target and much easier to hit. Just like Sasuke could hit Bee with Amaterasu. Sasuke was really lucky. If Bee hadn't changed into full form but his mini-form, he'd evade Amaterasu most likely!!

Mei is not on Saskue's level. Mei stands no chance against a full form Bijju

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Unlike Matatabi , Mei does not have an INSTANT kill attack that would destroy a bijju. Matabi has multiple attacks that will kill Mei in one hit. Matabi will recieve damage from the acid or lava but it will not kill a full form Bijju. Mei has no stamina and she is a defenseless to a TBB

[Ultimate combatant]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Unlike Matatabi , Mei does not have an INSTANT kill attack that would destroy a bijju. Matabi has multiple attacks that will kill Mei in one hit. Matabi will recieve damage from the acid or lava but it will not kill a full form Bijju. Mei has no stamina and she is a defenseless to a TBB

Matatabi won't be killed instantly but it will be greatly weakened. While Matatabi will be injured, Mei won't be.

She will be able to once again attack, something Matabi will slowly lose chance to do.

Also, Mei was winning against Sasuke. Yes, he was weakened but even so, he was above Yugito's level!!!

[PrinceofPeace]

In saskue condition he was NOT above bijju level.
- Saskue dealt with the Raikage
- Got hit with one of the seven mist swords
- survived attacks from the sand trio and Dauri
- Went through Mei's attacks

Saskue could barely maintain Susanoo.... so how was he above bijju levle??

Matatabi just needs ONE hit in. Lava is a slower attack and it is short-mid range attack

Mist slowly "eats" at the flesh. Bijuu cloak>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weakened Susanoo ribcage

Matatabi finishes with a TBB---- how does Mei stop that?
Do you REALLY think Mei will survive this without getting hit? Mei has No stamina and NO speed so how can she win this fight without taking a hit?