Kakashi Demon's resignation

[Jonesy]

Originally Posted by shinigan no sora

Ikr. I mean seriously who does this guy think he is?

He's the forum savior, duh.

[shinigan no sora]

This forum has only one messiah his name doug. We kept him in a lab, he only lived for a fewmonths before he got into the garbage and ate soome chocolate. After which he ascended into heaven with a thousand hookers named joseph where he now sits in judgement of the fantards

And thats where babies come from

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Not even a month passed since I left this place. I was contacted and told there were problems here, that I had to come and deal with the problems personally.

you mean two trolls ran away and you decided to return and white knight? Excellent..also in this very post you committed numerous bannable offenses..I could just order a FAIL under my jurisdiction to ban you but I actually wont. The Bg'ers need a little exercise and I don't mind letting them flex their debate muscles a little- sooner or later you'll be gone

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

And it was true. In so little time, things changed drastically. In my absence, people already tried to take this place over. The fact I was absent was exploited heavily. It gave rise to power for some people and removed some from it. When I left things weren't perfect, however, they were at least decent. And now this entire place is collapsing. People obviously thought I wouldn't come here no matter what happened. But I made it quite clear that if anyone needed me here, I'd do my best to come as soon as possible. And I am here.

And you know what? You're right Wooster left and lost his powers and he didn't deserve it. TBC is the master of his own fate but you do not exactly realize the situation now.

IWD and Shikamara Nara are the powers of the Bg now..we run the show, this is now a debate forum run by verses debaters for verses debaters with the best interest of the verses debaters taking paramount importance over all..

in our yard, you will not wank, you will not debate based on opinions..and you will not make false claims..you will not be a fanboy

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Numerous members realized this place is collapsing. They left, but not before pointing out some of the major flaws that are still not corrected. These include but are not limited to freedom of speech, unbalancedly divided powers, abuse of those powers, bias, unfairness and hipocrisy.

Two useless members who contributed nothing one who was punished multiple times by us..indeed left

their loss is meaningless - you;re return only seals your fate

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Those who stood their own in this oppression and did your best, Well Done. I told you I'd come when I was needed. Don't worry I am here now!!

You seem to fail to comprehend that based on this post alone and your false claims about Jiraiya soloing OP that any mongoose can easily have you banned for that?

but I wont do that..people like you serve a valued purpose on verse sections, they teach a hard lesson about those who think they can stand in the raging torrent and fight truth and quality - their inevitable meltdown and demise proves to all around them what a foolish mistake it is to be a fanboy on a section like this.

I suppose though, because of what is about to happen to you, you will serve a purpose/.

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

I see it is easy to attack and accuse someone when he leaves. Making yourself general after a battle you weren't in. Fitting with your cruel demeanor.

Actually, and you can ask anyone here. I have no problem facing anything head on for the sake of defending objective and honest traditional verses debating. As for the battle that made me general, it was a really, atrocious battle that exposed me to morally abhorrent and criminally reckless behavior on the part of those who would condemn the BG's and I lost it all multiple times no less simply put..you have no idea what you are talking about

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

I have heard of you before. Nothing particularly good, nothing particularly bad. Just heard
about you. But after reading this post, seeing you make all those members go away, restricting freedom of expression and other things... I think I get the picture who you are.

I am not restricting anyones freedom of expression I simply made it a bannable offense to be a fanboy. I made it a crime to claim Naruto characters can solo one piece..for example

or if you want an old school example: World War Hulk verses Konoha,,or Kakashi verses superman anyone persistently arguing for Naruto characters victories would be guilty of failing to debate objectively and using valid forms of evidence..and thus would no longer be allowed to continue to debate unless they changed their tunes

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

I don't know how much you know about me. You can call me Kakashi Demon or KD or whatever...
That is not the point. I am just another member who is not above fighting for everyone's rights, for quality of this and other places and for saying what you think out loud.

Yeah no, you;re a guy who claimed an Uchiha a second rate eyeball freak could take out a guy who can shake islands, spit them in half and cause tidal waves that affects islands hundreds of miles away...

and you got shutdown for such a dumb claim not supported by facts

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Your yard? Your palace with donuts, cookies and what else?

yes my yard, the territory I protect for the sake of the debaters here..yes

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

This is everybody's place. This is not place where others come because you allow them.
They come because they want to. You are not the owner, nor keeper.

Yes I am and you adhere to the BG's house standards or you are welcome to join someplace like MvC

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

You can help others have a nice time here. That is you role.

that's exactly what I am doing

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Yes, every single member can "spout" anything he wants as long as it is not insulting,
offensive or similar. The only reprisals should be arguments proving otherwise.

actually no he can't if he makes a claim he is under obligation to back this up with facts

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

As long as one claims something and the other one is not fine with it, he should present arguments. That is all. The feats presented are and should be based on opinion, otherwise it would be pointless since you wouldn't be able to judge feat to point out.

and yet you failed to do this spectacularly

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

I did not break the rules.

Yes you did, you claimed Jiraiya could solo OP when the facts don't support you

you persisted in the argument..and that is where the rules were broken

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

It is not a crime to be a fanboy as long as it doesn't affect your views. Not that it matters because I wasn't a fanboy. I did not wank. I was honest.

Actually yes, it is, we made it that way about five months ago

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

]I did not fail and neither did those who said I was opposed my opinion and told what they believed. You on the other hand, with your accusation and such... Kinda did.

ya did, buddy, ya made an absurd claim and failed to back it up and kinda ran

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

I am allowed and I will for as long as I want.

actually no you aren't

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

I find it funny how you waited till I left and then started trash talking, writing how I am scared, how I ran away from your mighty talks.

What inanity is this? I had absolutely no idea who you were, or what that debate entailed because I kinda dislike the HsT and find their threads to be tedious and full of biased so I tend to not read them.

I seriously had no idea who you were until someone sent me a link to this thread on another site laughing at you..

The coward accusations are hilarious because even my critics acknowledge that;'s one thing I'm not

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

You wait till the battle is over and then you come and speak bad because those you trash talk can't hear you.

and yet you heard me just fine and here I am...

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

If you are describing current ones holding the power, I won't oppose your opinion.

Lol dude

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

I did not insult them and as explained above, neither did I break the rules.

ya violated house standards..ergo you broke the rules

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Also I never said I was any of those. I do what I do! I don't care about titles

!

What I find amusing is this quote, is just so hollow, you wouldn't be speaking the way you do if you didn't

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Yes, I believe in them as well and as I wrote before, I know they can stand their own ground. But if they ask for help, they will get it.

three and a half years ago the OBD invaded this place, then they left for the most part after feasting on this sites "best debaters" Those of us who came from outside, the old guard who post on the larger sites some of us from that place, others from elsewhere - for two years we have been waging a crusade to correct the flaws this place had. For two years we've been succeeding

sorry but no..there is no ground being held

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Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

You say they know it. If they know what you said, fine by me. But you don't have them. They are not yours to have. I'm glad if you'll fight for them. I support Naruto characters, that much is true. But I don't wank Uchiha's nor other Naruto characters. What you wrote is not what I am. It is what you either think or wish or whatever.

Yeah they are mine, it's a term of affection and they know it. They know that I am fiercely protective of them. They watched me fight the entire staff for them twice for them I;ve been demodded and banned and had to start from scratch..they have seen me remain when most of the other outsiders bailed...I've brought people in and kept the peace and done so without ever expecting thanks for reverence or praise of any kind..

Because of this..they know and they know when I call them "mine" it's less of a possessive term and more of a battered old dog watching over the kids in his yard.

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

And you expect me to believe you? Nice try. Everyone's opinion matters. Even yours!!

Whether you believe or not is irrelevant

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Yes, I entrusted.

This part of your threat you actually started realizing. But I won't let you take this any further.

Buddy, I started realizing this with my first debate here. I've been realizing this long before I became a moderator. I was realizing this and bringing it to reality when I had a post count of fifteen and half the staff thought I was the devil and the other half were neutral and I had no one in my corner..

Do you understand yet? I've been changing the shape of this place through my arguments, through honesty and objectivity and applying the same universal standards all the quality places apply long before I became a mod. I didn't do it for nefarious reasons, I did it because this place had very good debaters and they were being overwhelmed by failure and fanboyism. My agenda my reason for doing it hasn't changed the only thing that has changed is now I have a badge of office and a bit more followers..that's it

You really don't get why I don't see you as a threat do you? Unlike you, I've lived this and I've done it facing everything from death threats to having people who confessed to murder in the convo being defended by the staff because they naively saw them as an "innocent victim" and I've done this for years and I have done so without the arrogance and selfish attention seeking I see in you

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Do not dare to threaten to others, especially in a post directed towards me!

Threaten others? I don't have too the BG'ers can easily remove the taint of your influence on their own..

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

I'd like to see you try since you're so arrogant. Though, I do not understand why you try are so belligerent.

Oh, and let me give you a real life advice. Never make a promise you can't keep!

You have absolutely no idea just how out of your league you really are, don't you boyo?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

We need a better white knight

Hey Jonesey..you feel up to being our Harvey Dent?

[shinigan no sora]

*munch munch munch*

[Ultimate combatant]

Originally Posted by Valvatorez

..............Did I miss something?

It depends on what you mean!!!

[shinigan no sora]

This kakashi demon character came out of nowhere and is acting like he was the one that came here and worked hard for years and bettered it as a whole

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Valvatorez

..............Did I miss something?

apparently instead of guys like you, and me and miles edgeworth and TBC and Shikamaru and Frosty being the ones who have logged in many years of personal time fixing this place

he single handedly did it with only a couple dozen posts no less

[shinigan no sora]

And also apparrently he was the one that recruited outsiders(like myself and people like kruptos, vongolatheeleventh and others) to bring forth additional quality numbers. To help flush out the trolls and etc

Oh and apparrently the definition of several concerned members is now two or so butthurt trolls and fantards.

[Jonesy]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

We need a better white knight

Hey Jonesey..you feel up to being our Harvey Dent?

I would feel honored; I love debating, but never really posted that much here in the BG. *pushes up glasses* I would love to give it a go.

Spoiler:

[Kakashi Demon]

Originally Posted by shinigan no sora

This kakashi demon character came out of nowhere and is acting like he was the one that came here and worked hard for years and bettered it as a whole

The way you talk indicates you've been here as long as I have.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

you mean two trolls ran away and you decided to return and white knight? Excellent..also in this very post you committed numerous bannable offenses..I could just order a FAIL under my jurisdiction to ban you but I actually wont. The Bg'ers need a little exercise and I don't mind letting them flex their debate muscles a little- sooner or later you'll be gone

The ones that you kept calling trolls. The ones who weren't. The ones whose complaints about this place you haven't taken into consideration. The ones who did their best. The ones who admitted this "yard" restricts freedom of expression.

But it isn't just about two members even though two members is a lot, it is about those who can't express their opinion. And I didn't decide. I was forced to come.

In all of my posts together, I don't think I have done a single thing which could be considered a bannable offense. In the previous post, even less.
What exactly in the post you quoted was bannable offense. Tell me, I won't mind.

If you did ban me... What would you hope to achieve with that? Few posts (that you consider troll posts) less? Someone less to waste your time on? Confirmation of what I was complaining about all the time?

Do you think that would solve it all?

Warming Battlegrounders up, huh?

What makes you think I'll go take a break that soon again? Especially after my absence was exploited so quickly?

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

And you know what? You're right Wooster left and lost his powers and he didn't deserve it. TBC is the master of his own fate but you do not exactly realize the situation now.

IWD and Shikamara Nara are the powers of the Bg now..we run the show, this is now a debate forum run by verses debaters for verses debaters with the best interest of the verses debaters taking paramount importance over all..

I am glad we agree about something.

And I have nothing against you or SN or anyone else. Only thing that bothers me, is your approach.

I can see you are trying to make this place better. However your actions are not appropriate. Better place you seek must be reached through peace and understanding.

You did drive some members away, call them whatever you want, you drove them away.

With more understanding, things could've worked out most likely. Those who left will be missed and I hope they will come here once again.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

in our yard, you will not wank, you will not debate based on opinions..and you will not make false claims..you will not be a fanboy

I don't think I ever did any of these things. At the very least on these forums.

And don't worry, I don't intend to. But don't expect that I will keep silent when I disagree with something written.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Two useless members who contributed nothing one who was punished multiple times by us..indeed left

their loss is meaningless - you;re return only seals your fate

This is not the right attitude for someone who claims himself to be a keeper of this place.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

You seem to fail to comprehend that based on this post alone and your false claims about Jiraiya soloing OP that any mongoose can easily have you banned for that?

I was reffering to the asumption that Jiraiya and Kisame can solo OnePieceverse. I didn't mean that it is 100% that Jiraiya solos OnePieceverse.

Furthermore, I even said that when top tiers like Gol D. Roger get feats, even Madara couldn't solo it.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

but I wont do that..people like you serve a valued purpose on verse sections, they teach a hard lesson about those who think they can stand in the raging torrent and fight truth and quality - their inevitable meltdown and demise proves to all around them what a foolish mistake it is to be a fanboy on a section like this.

I suppose though, because of what is about to happen to you, you will serve a purpose/.

Truth and quality are one of my greatest allies. So, you most likely over assume too much.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Actually, and you can ask anyone here. I have no problem facing anything head on for the sake of defending objective and honest traditional verses debating. As for the battle that made me general, it was a really, atrocious battle that exposed me to morally abhorrent and criminally reckless behavior on the part of those who would condemn the BG's and I lost it all multiple times no less simply put..you have no idea what you are talking about

Perhaps I over assumed about you, too, because of lack of informations. If I did, I apologize.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

I am not restricting anyones freedom of expression I simply made it a bannable offense to be a fanboy. I made it a crime to claim Naruto characters can solo one piece..for example

In the characters talk section, there is quite many of those who openly admit they are fanboys of some character. When they occasionally come here, are they guilty of fanboyism.

Also, which Naruto characters are you not allowed to claim solo OnePieceverse and what is such "law" based on?

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

or if you want an old school example: World War Hulk verses Konoha,,or Kakashi verses superman anyone persistently arguing for Naruto characters victories would be guilty of failing to debate objectively and using valid forms of evidence..and thus would no longer be allowed to continue to debate unless they changed their tunes

That is because Kakashi cannot win against superman with 99.99% chance.

And even then if someone claimed different, he would not be guilty for interpreting facts differently.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Yeah no, you;re a guy who claimed an Uchiha a second rate eyeball freak could take out a guy who can shake islands, spit them in half and cause tidal waves that affects islands hundreds of miles away...

and you got shutdown for such a dumb claim not supported by facts

Actually, I claimed he could take out the guy you named, plus the rest of the OnePieceverse.

But I don't see where the problem is.

Here's the thing after I expressed what I wrote, few people who disagreed wrote it. Fine, I strengthened my claims by giving proofs. I named more than half of moves that Madara is capable of doing and if you follow the Manga even loosely, you know he can do them. On top of that I even mentioned a few strategies Madara can use to solo them. I suppose those who watch Anime only cannot know that but that is their mistake, not mine.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

yes my yard, the territory I protect for the sake of the debaters here..yes
Yes I am and you adhere to the BG's house standards or you are welcome to join someplace like MvC
that's exactly what I am doing

Alright then. As I said it is not your position, it is your approach that is problematic.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

actually no he can't if he makes a claim he is under obligation to back this up with facts


and yet you failed to do this spectacularly

With first part I agree and don't really see how it differs from what I said.

The second part I wonder, how so?

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Yes you did, you claimed Jiraiya could solo OP when the facts don't support you

you persisted in the argument..and that is where the rules were broken

As I already explained, see above.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Actually yes, it is, we made it that way about five months ago

OK then.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

ya did, buddy, ya made an absurd claim and failed to back it up and kinda ran

I made an absurd claim? The one about Madara vs OnePieceverse? Maybe, although I named Madara's moves and mentioned strategies. But Maybe it is absurd.

I tried to back it up. You say I failed. If that was the only problem, you could've just told so. I am prepared prepared to debate as long as it takes.

And I did not run. I had my reasons to go. Among others, I was asked to leave. It's not like I did it before telling everyone how, why and when.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

actually no you aren't

I don't really know against which rule would it be.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

What inanity is this? I had absolutely no idea who you were, or what that debate entailed because I kinda dislike the HsT and find their threads to be tedious and full of biased so I tend to not read them.

I seriously had no idea who you were until someone sent me a link to this thread on another site laughing at you..

The coward accusations are hilarious because even my critics acknowledge that;'s one thing I'm not

OK. I believe you.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

and yet you heard me just fine and here I am...

Yeah, I suppose you are right.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Lol dude

LOL WUT?

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

What I find amusing is this quote, is just so hollow, you wouldn't be speaking the way you do if you didn't

Do you really think titles matter?

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

three and a half years ago the OBD invaded this place, then they left for the most part after feasting on this sites "best debaters" Those of us who came from outside, the old guard who post on the larger sites some of us from that place, others from elsewhere - for two years we have been waging a crusade to correct the flaws this place had. For two years we've been succeeding

sorry but no..there is no ground being held

I wasn't here back then, yet. I suppose I will believe you on word.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Yeah they are mine, it's a term of affection and they know it. They know that I am fiercely protective of them. They watched me fight the entire staff for them twice for them I;ve been demodded and banned and had to start from scratch..they have seen me remain when most of the other outsiders bailed...I've brought people in and kept the peace and done so without ever expecting thanks for reverence or praise of any kind..

Even stronger proof you try to make this place better. If you really do, you'll listen to me and try to be more understanding.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Whether you believe or not is irrelevant

Do you think that is true only for me, or others, too? Try to be more tolerant, more understanding and assist those who need advice.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Buddy, I started realizing this with my first debate here. I've been realizing this long before I became a moderator. I was realizing this and bringing it to reality when I had a post count of fifteen and half the staff thought I was the devil and the other half were neutral and I had no one in my corner..

Do you understand yet? I've been changing the shape of this place through my arguments, through honesty and objectivity and applying the same universal standards all the quality places apply long before I became a mod. I didn't do it for nefarious reasons, I did it because this place had very good debaters and they were being overwhelmed by failure and fanboyism. My agenda my reason for doing it hasn't changed the only thing that has changed is now I have a badge of office and a bit more followers..that's it

You really don't get why I don't see you as a threat do you? Unlike you, I've lived this and I've done it facing everything from death threats to having people who confessed to murder in the convo being defended by the staff because they naively saw them as an "innocent victim" and I've done this for years and I have done so without the arrogance and selfish attention seeking I see in you

I believed in other experiences you mentioned, I'll believe in this one, too.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Threaten others? I don't have too the BG'ers can easily remove the taint of your influence on their own..

There is no need for either action in the first place.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

You have absolutely no idea just how out of your league you really are, don't you boyo?

As I said... I am not above fighting for everyone's rights.

I'll be glad if you consider and think about what I wrote. And I will try to follow your advices!

[shinigan no sora]

On this forum? Maybe not. But I'm certainly more informed, especially since you just keep running off

Oh and just because you joined before I did doesn't mean squat. Especially since I've clearly logged more time and effort than you have. And have a much more clear presence here than you do.

I got recruited to this place from elsewhere as did my wife. Do you know why that is? Its because we've kicked ass and rebuilt this type of section before. We earned our way here. We proved ourselves by trial of fire. You think you can just step in and say with your lack of experience and effort that you can waltz. In here and try to turn over what we've worked on?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

The ones that you kept calling trolls. The ones who weren't. The ones whose complaints about this place you haven't taken into consideration. The ones who did their best. The ones who admitted this "yard" restricts freedom of expression.

They need to accept this is no longer an opinion based section..

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

But it isn't just about two members even though two members is a lot, it is about those who can't express their opinion. And I didn't decide. I was forced to come.

Really because as soon as they left three more took their place..

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

If you did ban me... What would you hope to achieve with that?

It would teach the debaters here nothing, the one lesson they need to learn they wouldn't

so they can have at you..and get that lesson

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

I am glad we agree about something.

And I have nothing against you or SN or anyone else. Only thing that bothers me, is your approach.

I can see you are trying to make this place better. However your actions are not appropriate. Better place you seek must be reached through peace and understanding.

There's only one way to cure a verses section and make it live again- through fire and debate

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

You did drive some members away, call them whatever you want, you drove them away.

and immediately gained three more active members. You don't seem to get this, my way works. When I was second in command under TBC we had peace and a constant stream of activity because it was known throughout the vs debate community that, this place would no longer tolerate BS

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

With more understanding, things could've worked out most likely. Those who left will be missed and I hope they will come here once again.

they wont be, they contributed absolutely nothing to the BG's

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

This is not the right attitude for someone who claims himself to be a keeper of this place.

And you're attitude is? Hahaha

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Truth and quality are one of my greatest allies. So, you most likely over assume too much.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

In the characters talk section, there is quite many of those who openly admit they are fanboys of some character. When they occasionally come here, are they guilty of fanboyism.

if they claim Sasuke can beat Superman..or something equally insane you bet yer arse they would be

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Also, which Naruto characters are you not allowed to claim solo OnePieceverse and what is such "law" based on?

until feats improve none of them can

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Actually, I claimed he could take out the guy you named, plus the rest of the OnePieceverse.

the facts don't support that

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

But I don't see where the problem is.

you are factually wrong

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Here's the thing after I expressed what I wrote, few people who disagreed wrote it. Fine, I strengthened my claims by giving proofs. I named more than half of moves that Madara is capable of doing and if you follow the Manga even loosely, you know he can do them. On top of that I even mentioned a few strategies Madara can use to solo them. I suppose those who watch Anime only cannot know that but that is their mistake, not mine.

and your failing to grasp none of that matters because he'd be mercilessly speed blitz and smashed in the face with a town buster right off the bat

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Alright then. As I said it is not your position, it is your approach that is problematic.

says you, and others who don't have the first clue how to run a verses debate section

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

And I did not run. I had my reasons to go. Among others, I was asked to leave. It's not like I did it before telling everyone how, why and when.

So someone sarcastically asks you to leave and publish a long arrogant speech about the evils of this place before bailing then trying to come back and white knight

hey Larry or some other newb tell this guy to get out again, maybe we'll get some entertainment out of it

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Do you really think titles matter?

hell no, you on the other hand certainly seem to think so

Originally Posted by Kakashi Demon

Do you think that is true only for me, or others, too? Try to be more tolerant, more understanding and assist those who need advice.

I have no problems assisting those who need advice and being tolerant. I do to many newbs who slip up and make genuine mistakes. There is a fine line between someone who just needs a little patience and guidance and someone like you or the two that left

that is why you are being met with such resistance, because I have seen nothing but compensation, grandiosity and white knighting and naruto wank from you..where as your average debater is merely making a typical error and can readily be corrected with a kind word and a decent explanation

Originally Posted by Jonesy

I would feel honored; I love debating, but never really posted that much here in the BG. *pushes up glasses* I would love to give it a go.

Spoiler:

Jonesey whether or not we think alike I've never seen you raise a point that wasn't well thought out and well asserted. You and anyone like you are welcome to become a more active force in this section

I'm dead serious, my door is always open to you

Originally Posted by shinigan no sora

On this forum? Maybe not. But I'm certainly more informed, especially since you just keep running off

I love how most of the critics of the way we do things either haven't the first clue how to handle this section and barely interact inside it. or their just jilted trolls

[Cult of Personality]

Who is this tool? I can't remember ever seeing him before. :hmm

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Cult of Personality

Who is this tool? I can't remember ever seeing him before. :hmm

I don't know, he appeared and claimed himself the savior of all debaters and a bastion of quality and words of truth. but when it comes to people who wrought great works on behalf of the BG's that go forever unnoticed there is that enigmatic "Dudmeister" that existed once upon a time

[Cult of Personality]

Alas, the truly great ones ever go unappreciated, while the truly crappy rise to the top.

Reference: Final Fantasies 8 & 9 vs FF7 respectively

[Shikamaru Nara]

I found Cult's second reaction to this thread absolutely hilarious.
Well done, chap. :lmao

[Jonesy]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Jonesey whether or not we think alike I've never seen you raise a point that wasn't well thought out and well asserted. You and anyone like you are welcome to become a more active force in this section

I'm dead serious, my door is always open to you

I shall become more active here in the BG, and thank you for having your door always open to me.

[Kakashi Demon]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

They need to accept this is no longer an opinion based section..

Opinion based or not, opinion should be allowed. Otherwise place will become even worse than OBD.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

Really because as soon as they left three more took their place..

Three more, two less opposed to three more plus two.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

It would teach the debaters here nothing, the one lesson they need to learn they wouldn't

so they can have at you..and get that lesson

I agree.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

There's only one way to cure a verses section and make it live again- through fire and debate

Through debate, yes. But fire, even though it is inevitable for it to be, must not be supported.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

and immediately gained three more active members. You don't seem to get this, my way works. When I was second in command under TBC we had peace and a constant stream of activity because it was known throughout the vs debate community that, this place would no longer tolerate BS

Or maybe people here were simply happier. They had freedom, they had opportunity but most of all, they had fun.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

they wont be, they contributed absolutely nothing to the BG's

That would make all new guys not be welcome because they didn't contribute yet. Besides, I think they did debate well a few times.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

And you're attitude is? Hahaha

Alright I admit it. I was slightly short tempered in a few posts. But your then again... It is not me who claims himself to be the keeper.

I'll try to do my best with my attitude and so should you.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

I don't know why you find it so funny. Every time someone wanted my explanation I gave it. When I was asked, I told why I think Madara would win. Whether he'd win or not, is another story. But I did explain why I think so. I did name which moves he has and what strategies he can use.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

if they claim Sasuke can beat Superman..or something equally insane you bet yer arse they would be

As I thought, it is not crime to be a fanboy, only to have it affect how you debate.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

until feats improve none of them can

How about soloing OnePieceverse minus Gol D. Roger?

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

the facts don't support that

How so? Madara has advantage in speed, number of techniques, plenty of them capable of bringing down Whitebeard.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

you are factually wrong

Alright then. But then simply try to correct me and I'll either agree or provide another argument.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

and your failing to grasp none of that matters because he'd be mercilessly speed blitz and smashed in the face with a town buster right off the bat

Isn't speed of Narutoverse far higher than OnePieceverse? I will admit I didn't do calculation for either side. But if I am not mistaken the best speed feats One Piece has (not counting Kizaru) would be Luffy dodging bullets and still being slowpoke compared to Blueno and then Luffy semi-blitzing Blueno. And then Luffy gradually improving over time and receiving a speed boost after time skip. I don't really know how it even comes to the level of speed Narutoverse has.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

says you, and others who don't have the first clue how to run a verses debate section

You may have an experience in running verses section, I won't say otherwise. But this is not just any verses section.

Here opinion should be free to express. Maybe not considered always but at least allowed.

Now I may not know a lot about that. But I can tell things are not how they should be!

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

So someone sarcastically asks you to leave and publish a long arrogant speech about the evils of this place before bailing then trying to come back and white knight

hey Larry or some other newb tell this guy to get out again, maybe we'll get some entertainment out of it

I had other reasons too. And guy seriously had the attitude as if I was troll and making this place worse. It seems more like he never contributed to this place.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

hell no, you on the other hand certainly seem to think so

I don't. As I already said. I do what I do. You and some other think I am being troll. Some think I am just pointing out mistakes. Some think I am trying to improve this place.

Everyone has some sort of opinion about me. Titles do not matter.

Though I really do not understand something. I express what I think is wrong with this place. You don't seem to agree with me. People have different opinions. And I understand that.

But I don't understand why you view me as a troll. Have I not shown that I am serious when pointing out things that I think are mistakes?

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

I have no problems assisting those who need advice and being tolerant. I do to many newbs who slip up and make genuine mistakes. There is a fine line between someone who just needs a little patience and guidance and someone like you or the two that left

that is why you are being met with such resistance, because I have seen nothing but compensation, grandiosity and white knighting and naruto wank from you..where as your average debater is merely making a typical error and can readily be corrected with a kind word and a decent explanation

Even if I were wrong during debates, how were my mistakes not genuine?

In the debates it's not like I just said that Madara wins. I said but I also provided some of the reasons why I think he wins. If you disagree with my reasons than you should just write that you think I was wrong and explain why those reasons alone are not enough for him to win!

If I am wrong, how is my mistake not a typical error? How can it not be readily corrected with a kind word?

And I am still waiting for an explanation I never received.

[Cult of Personality]

I'm lazy so I only read the last line in that post.

When you stop sucking you'll get an explanation.