Tsunade vs Tobirama

[Mangetsu Hozuki]

Tobirama was the best water style user of all time. Tsuande has only close-range fighting, and can't even get close to the 2nd, considering his long-mid range water style jutsu. And he was also a sensory ninja.

[PrinceofPeace]

.... How does being a sensory ninja help in this fight??

Tsunade summons Katasyu and spits acid on Tobirama.
Tobirama does not have any moves that can kill

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

.... How does being a sensory ninja help in this fight??

Tsunade summons Katasyu and spits acid on Tobirama.
Tobirama does not have any moves that can kill

OK first off I'd like to put an end to this whole water style ninjutsu can't kill or isn't very effective because as we have all seen it can do plenty. Kisame is living proof of that.

Secondly Tsunade has never proven herself to be able to break out of genjutsu let alone one like bringer of darkness that clearly states that cannot be broken out of not matter how strong the opponent is.

Tsunade would have to be able to summon Katasyu first and she wont be able to do that is she is busy dodging the second hokages water style which by the way he was said to be able to do power water style ninjutsu without the need to water source.

Tsunade is close range fighter and she would be able to get close to him unless she was willing to be hit by water dragon missile or a hard water spike.

It was already said WHILE TSUNADE WAS AROUND that Tobirama was the second strongest Senju right behind his brother, now the gap between him and his brothers power hasn't quite been established however, this still basically says that Tobirama is stronger than Tsunade.

[PrinceofPeace]

Medical ninja's have the greates control of chakra so Tsunade can break out of it. Also she can cause herself pain like bitting her lip to break out of it. She can also user her slugs to break her out of genjutsu.

Tsunade can use her summoning very quickly I believe without making hand seals. With water ninjutsu Tobirama would have to summon a large amount of water then use it. I think water dragon is the only real threat.

Tsunade can user her slugs to spit acid which would be a long ranged attack. Tsunade can also try to dodge the water dragon or punch it since the water would be so dense.

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Medical ninja's have the greates control of chakra so Tsunade can break out of it. Also she can cause herself pain like bitting her lip to break out of it. She can also user her slugs to break her out of genjutsu.

Tsunade can use her summoning very quickly I believe without making hand seals. With water ninjutsu Tobirama would have to summon a large amount of water then use it. I think water dragon is the only real threat.

Tsunade can user her slugs to spit acid which would be a long ranged attack. Tsunade can also try to dodge the water dragon or punch it since the water would be so dense.

What part of bringer of darkness cannot be broken out of don't you people seem to be getting? Even if Tsunade can break out of other genjutsu's which unless I missed something she's never done, the fact still stands that bringer of darkness cannot be broken out of.

summoning still requires for the person to first draw blood and then place their hands on a solid surface which would be hard to do if she she's constantly running.

Also Tobirama is able to use powerful water style ninjutsu without the need of a water source and he's able to do it pretty darn fast actually.

[TobiramaSenju307]

Tobirama was the best water style user of all time

no kisame is. he produced lakes out of thin air and giant shark bullet eats other attacks.

because as we have all seen it can do plenty. Kisame is living proof of that.

kisames a special case as easily the strongest suiton user so far

Secondly Tsunade has never proven herself to be able to break out of genjutsu let alone one like bringer of darkness that clearly states that cannot be broken out of not matter how strong the opponent is.

great..except perfect chakra control is exactly how you counter genjutsu or having a partner to break you out. and darkness is hashiramas jutsu, not tobiramas

It was already said WHILE TSUNADE WAS AROUND that Tobirama was the second strongest Senju right behind his brother, now the gap between him and his brothers power hasn't quite been established however, this still basically says that Tobirama is stronger than Tsunade.

tsunade is possibly only senju on her mother's side. her dad may have been some other legendary fighter from that era. that may not qualify her as a true senju.

BUt did Juugo die????? NO

if it kept up for too long yes he would have suffocated to death

[PrinceofPeace]

My love for Kisame>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kisame >>> TOBRIAMA

We do not know if Jugo would have died he could have used his jets or chakra cannons

Tobriama does not have a lot he can do to Tsunade

[TheIndigoFang]

Tobirama wins, because of whoop butt water Jutsus, and summon eternal creeps Edo.

Hokages in order by powerful:

Spoiler:

1st>4th>2nd>3rd>5th

[BMC1994]

Yup Tobirama wins Tsunade gets a ''wet t-shirt'' before she can say '' Yin seal release!'' XD

[TheIndigoFang]

Lol!! xD

[PrinceofPeace]

@ TIF----------- How is the 2nd stronger than the 3rd??

Anyway Tobirama can not beat her slugs. Tobirama is horrible at edo tensi

[BMC1994]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Anyway Tobirama can not beat her slugs. Tobirama is horrible at edo tensi

Tobirama is the inventor of edo tensei and thus knows all its mechanics off the top of his head.

For any people who think that tobis edo tensei is weaker for for some please provide some evidence to prove it because the manga never stated that.

It only stated that both Orochimaru and Kabuto (in kabutos case he improved the number of people he could control at the same time) improved the jutsu.