Hashirama vs 6 Paths of Pain & KONAN

[PrinceofPeace]

Hashirama is in the forest of death

Pain and Konan are 20ft away

Prep: Pain has full prep... BUT konan DOES NOT

Both are in character

No knowledge

ALL Feats

Restirictions: Can NOT use ALMIGHTY PUSH nor Plantarty Devastation right off the bat... the other 5 paths have to die before using either of the moves

[Ultimate combatant]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Hashirama is in the forest of death

Pain and Konan are 20ft away

Prep: Pain has full prep... BUT konan DOES NOT

Both are in character

No knowledge

ALL Feats

Restirictions: Can NOT use ALMIGHTY PUSH nor Plantarty Devastation right off the bat... the other 5 paths have to die before using either of the moves

Trust me. You don't need to restrict Pain.

Naruto lost to Pain because he couldn't enter Sage mode at will. But after Naruto managed to practically instantly enter Sage mode... And even Nine Tails Chakra mode.

Yet even that was nothing against Madara. And Hashirama defeated Madara and Kurama!!!

[JLI2infinity]

Hashirama summons a giant Earth Wall to protect himself, he then prepares several MASSIVE water release technique to push the paths back except for Preta who can absorb it. If Nagato is limited from using ST, Hashirama uses a humongous Wood Release Barrage to crush the slower paths along with any summons. He then summons the flower world to knock everyone out. After that he brings out a few swords from his scrolls and casually walks over and stabs them all through the chest. Hashirama was a true god, even Pain wouldn't be able to handle him.

[king kakashi]

pain uses CT done
Hashirama is all hype no matter who you pit him up against the only source we have is madara talking and his weak fight against tobirama

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by king kakashi

pain uses CT done
Hashirama is all hype no matter who you pit him up against the only source we have is madara talking and his weak fight against tobirama

I don't know what it is that makes you underrate Hashirama so much but he is not hype at this point. Any Wood Release feat we see from Madara counts as Hashirama's. Madara has basically been trying out Hashirama's moves this entire time and even has Hashirama's cells fused into his chest. That means that giant Wood Release barrage that took thousands of Naruto clones with Giant Rasengans to destroy is Hashirama's ability.

Madara saying that the Five Kages are all a disgrace when compared to Hashirama counts as more than just hype for Hashirama. Madara being able to make powerful Mokuton Clones counts as a feat for Hashirama. Madara saying that (even with Perfect Susano'o) Hashirama was their only chance can't just be hype anymore man he's mentioned it at least three times. The Flowering World is Hashirama's technique. Hashirama also has regen. superior to Tsunade's.

Not to mention we can count Yamato's high end feats as Hashirama's low end ones, that means creating that giant earth wall and a waterfall long enough for one thousand Naruto clones to train on is something well within Hashirama's power, Yamato directly stated that his power paled in comparison to Hashirama's.

Oh and read the OP, no CT off the bat for Pain.

[king kakashi]

Originally Posted by JLI2infinity

I don't know what it is that makes you underrate Hashirama so much but he is not hype at this point. Any Wood Release feat we see from Madara counts as Hashirama's. Madara has basically been trying out Hashirama's moves this entire time and even has Hashirama's cells fused into his chest. That means that giant Wood Release barrage that took thousands of Naruto clones with Giant Rasengans to destroy is Hashirama's ability.

Madara saying that the Five Kages are all a disgrace when compared to Hashirama counts as more than just hype for Hashirama. Madara being able to make powerful Mokuton Clones counts as a feat for Hashirama. Madara saying that (even with Perfect Susano'o) Hashirama was their only chance can't just be hype anymore man he's mentioned it at least three times. The Flowering World is Hashirama's technique. Hashirama also has regen. superior to Tsunade's.

Not to mention we can count Yamato's high end feats as Hashirama's low end ones, that means creating that giant earth wall and a waterfall long enough for one thousand Naruto clones to train on is something well within Hashirama's power, Yamato directly stated that his power paled in comparison to Hashirama's.

Oh and read the OP, no CT off the bat for Pain.

Everything you said were things said about him unless we see him do these things it's still all hype
as for yamato his skill is not enough to take down all six paths of pain and konan
Read the OP all feats feats are by definition things that we know he can do
just saying that he is stronger than somebody else is not a feat that is hype

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by king kakashi

Everything you said were things said about him unless we see him do these things it's still all hype
as for yamato his skill is not enough to take down all six paths of pain and konan
Read the OP all feats feats are by definition things that we know he can do
just saying that he is stronger than somebody else is not a feat that is hype

Ok I can understand your point but just because it says "all feats" doesn't mean we have to ignore hype. All Madara's statements are very important to understanding the vast power Hashirama possessed. On top of that Madara is performing all of Hashirama's techniques...they even have the same name and he's attributed the moves to him. It would be like if we never saw Minato perform a Rasengan but Jiraiya and Naruto did and said it was Minato's technique, that can still be used as Minato's feat. That's why the Third Raikage can use Black Lightning in battles, because it was stated that he was the one who invented it and passed it on to Darui.

[king kakashi]

True but that would not be enough to give him the win over konan and pain.
Tobi himself said that pain was the most powerful member of the akatsuki
Also to be fair we can use some of his Hype but when it comes down to it even if you put madara vs. hashirama right now it would be debated because we have no feats for hashirama that put him at the level that he is said to be.
We can use every wood style jutsu ever seen plus his supposed ability to heal and still he is lacking in feats.
especially when compared to someone like pain who killed an entire village then brought them all back to life

[e710]

At this point in the story we know Hashirama> Madara> 5 kages and he is just playing with them. Also Hashirama has better healing then Tsunade who got stabbed in half and came back. His wood style is better then Yamato's it might also is on par or better then Madara's. All of his has been stated and no one in the story disagrees or objects it.

[Mangetsu Hozuki]

Hashirama wins, for sure. Ultimate combatant's logic was spot-on.

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by king kakashi

True but that would not be enough to give him the win over konan and pain.
Tobi himself said that pain was the most powerful member of the akatsuki
Also to be fair we can use some of his Hype but when it comes down to it even if you put madara vs. hashirama right now it would be debated because we have no feats for hashirama that put him at the level that he is said to be.
We can use every wood style jutsu ever seen plus his supposed ability to heal and still he is lacking in feats.
especially when compared to someone like pain who killed an entire village then brought them all back to life

That's more than enough feats, did you not see the stuff I just said, all those moves are extremely powerful without ST, the paths have NO defense against them, except maybe the laser by Asura which might be able to stop the initial barrage but not a second round especially if he summons the forest from multiple directions.

Hashirama summons a giant Earth Wall to protect himself, he then prepares several MASSIVE water release technique to push the paths back except for Preta who can absorb it. If Nagato is limited from using ST, Hashirama uses a humongous Wood Release Barrage to crush the slower paths along with any summons. He then summons the flower world to knock everyone out. After that he brings out a few swords from his scrolls and casually walks over and stabs them all through the chest. Hashirama was a true god, even Pain wouldn't be able to handle him.

You tried to talk about hype, these are all feats easily possible by Hashirama even if you disregard Madara saying how awesome Hashirama was over and over again. Not to mention he can use his Bringer of Darkness Genjutsu on them, I didn't even bring that into the equation because I thought it was unnecessary. Hashirama owns this fight the only people who stand a chance are Konan and Deva Path.