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Old 07-05-2012, 04:24 PM   #41
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Default Re: I know who Tobi really is.Not an Uchiha

We have no knowledege on the Mizukage

Kisame does not really like his village and if he saw the Mizukage I doubt he woulod have respect for him

I think Tobi is an evil Senju

Really Tobi could be anyone but

What does the Mizukage have against the leaf
How did he get cells from the 1st to make zetsu

I HIGHLY doubt it is mizukage if it is that is poor writting
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:22 PM   #42
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Default Re: I know who Tobi really is.Not an Uchiha

That actually... makes sense.

I figured Tobi wasn't actual an Uchiha but I wans't quite sure who he was. I can see your logic behind your claims and it does make sense.

Kisame didn't like his leaders but he still worked for them for quite some time. He only betrayed the village when he felt he had learned everything he could from his former sensei.

It makes sense for Tobi to be a leader or at least someone from that village. But it still begs the question--why does he hold a grudge against the Uchiha Clan? Why Konoha? More importantly... how does he know so much about Madara's life?

In my personal opinion I think we don't have enough information to find Tobi. But I believe Madara did live long enough to born the Akatsuki.

Why do I think this? Remember when Madara first exits the coffin... first encounters Nagato? He comments how Nagato has grown. This leads the reader to think that Madara was around long enough to at the very least see Nagato before.

So what's to say Madara didn't control the Hidden Mist and that Kisame really saw Madara?

If, however, I were to take a wild guess at who Tobi really was... I would say he was a form of Madara. Do you recall when he lost his arm in the fight with Danzo and his henchmen? How it spewed white... not to mention he replaced it with ease. Who's to say Madara didn't create his own clone to carry out his work once he died?

Again... just a wild guess. I don't have enough evidence to support it.

But I love your theory and it was very nicely argued. Well done!
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:07 PM   #43
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Nice post these are some very good points you have
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:13 PM   #44
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I think that Kisame called Tobi misukage because Tobi was controling the 4th misukage, so kisame called im that way.
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Old 07-21-2012, 07:14 PM   #45
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I think that Kisame called Tobi misukage because Tobi was controling the 4th misukage, so kisame called im that way.
yes this is correct tobi seems to be an uchiha that was controlling the 4th misukage as seen in chapter 507
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:44 AM   #46
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Default Re: I know who Tobi really is.Not an Uchiha

Actually ur all wrong, when in episode 142 he said 'Former fourth mizukage- no, madara-san'
What he means by Former, is because he was controlling yagura the fourth mizukage.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:36 AM   #47
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Default Re: I know who Tobi really is.Not an Uchiha

I like the idea that Tobi is a Mizukage because Kisame seemed to know him. He's definately not Madara, but that doesn't mean he's not an Uchiha. I don't have hard evidence, but my idea is based on what was revealed in chapter 597. I believe Tobi is the 3rd Mizukage, but he's also Obito Uchiha. My reasoning is because his space-time ninjutsu is the same as Kakashi's Mangekyo. This irked Kakashi and he asks Tobi where he got the eye to which Tobi essentially replies "you know where."

If he's not Obito, I think Tobi still has to be an Uchiha because for the entire time we've seen him, his Sharingan has been active, but he hasn't experienced any kind of fatigue from using it like Kakashi has. But just because he's an Uchiha doesn't mean he can't be a Mizukage. I don't know though. I do have a feeling we'll find out in the next couple chapters.
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:13 PM   #48
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Default Re: I know who Tobi really is.Not an Uchiha

So I'm not much for citing the manga but the latest chapter clearly shows a link betwen kakashi's mangekyo and the realm that toby uses to escape attacks so I'm pretty sure that Madara(meaning masked man) is probably orbito or a weakend version of madara that survived by amasing other sharingan eyes( orbitos opposite eye of kakashis being one and shisui's stolen eye from danzo) until he could atain his original powers or something equal to and I think he survived all this time by some how incorporating the 1st hokage cells during there battle and surving off of his healing powers (thus his connection the the root and orochimaru and there dna experiments and thus to toby pointing out that danzo was unable to incorporate both and properly use izanagi because he wasn't an uchiha) and through this new found life then found new powers and the sharingan he had stolen due to its fusion with hasarima senju and just a side note on the former mizukage and I believe it was the third the jinchuriki of the three tales and the reason kisame recognized him was because as the current mizukage said he was suspected of being manipulated by the akaktuski and the flashback episode with kisame shows that tobi(or madara before he was strong enough to return was manipulating people via sharingan for awhile and he felt safe enough to show kisame his existance first I Kisame went rogue under that mizukage who was being conrtolled by tobi all kisames orders were being given by tobi then to steal samehada to assainate certain people all precursors to the akatuski that was carried out by kisame by order of tobi) in my opnion thats why he recoginzes tobi
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I like this theory and here's something to think about. What if Madara had a son in the Hidden Rain who grew up to be the Mizukage. He'd look like madara and have the sharingan. Nagato's Rinneghan awakened when his parents died. Therefore couldn't the Mizukage placed a jutsu on the men that killed Nagato's parents? They didn't mean to kill them or wanted too, it just happened.

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Default Re: I know who Tobi really is.Not an Uchiha

All theories are possible but this one is TOOOO far fetched and how would he have obtained Obito's sharigan?

This is a leaf issue so it has to be someone from the leaf
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:08 PM   #51
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Default Re: I know who Tobi really is.Not an Uchiha

First of all i agree with is not an uchiha.
But is not the former mizukage and this is why:

the episodes you are using are correct, both of them anime and manga, but the traduction is not correct, by the moment he revealed himself to kisame, he in fact didn
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Akatsuki was made by nagato yahiko and konan... it was made against the war till yahiko was killed... but they weren't enemies against konoha since their master was jiraiya but nagato created the hatred of akatsuki because of the pain of losing his "parents" and his friends chibi n yahiko..
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:46 PM   #53
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Does anyone REALLY think Tobi is the Mizukage??
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I think he uses it too well (sharingan) to be not an uchiha
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Spoiler:
Tobi is Obito Uchiha.
He was secretly the Mizukage, only because he took control of Yagura.
Madara found obito and patched him up with white zetsu.
Everyone should know this by now, if you read the manga (:
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tobi is
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and uchiha he is obito. madara saved him when he was crush by the rock. madara now is dead. but obito played out his character to make people think that madara was still alive. madara fuze hashiramas cells with obito so he would heal from when he was crush. of course madara was revive with the impure reincarnation jutso. but was originally plan to be revive by nagato.
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lol...

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Placeinthesun16 is correct. So this thread is officially pointless...:P
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guys you do know this thread is from 11-15-2011 right?
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^ totally!!! it feels kwl to know it all, huh??
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