Who will win? <Hokages Edition>

[TheIndigoFang]

Who will win?
1st Hokage/ Senju or
2nd Hokage/ Hiruzen or
3rd Hokage/ Old Man (according to Naruto) or
4th Hokage/ Minato/ The Flash/ Naruto's dad or
5th Hokage/ Tsunade?

[PrinceofPeace]

NO one else can do what the 1st did.

He took on Kurama AND Madara.

Minato had a hard time with Tobi we all know tsunade could not do anything.

Tobirama could not even handle Kurama .

The third would have the best chance but would fail

[Kuromaki]

Sarutobi is not in his prime so Hashirama would take this handily.

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

Hashirama Senju stomps. He's like the strongest ninja ever known, other than the Sage of Six Paths.

[Godaime Kazekage]

Hashirama's all hype-I'm going with Minato. I doubt that Hashi's healing skills will save him from a rasengan blitz to the head. The 2nd Hokage's name is Tobirama btw, Hiruzen is the 3rd Hokage.

[Kioroshi.]

^ lol at you thinking minato can beat Hashirama.

Isn't Sage Of Six Paths all hype too?so I guess Ino can beat him cuz we never seen him fight and hes all hype....

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Sarutobi is not in his prime so Hashirama would take this handily.

the 3rd in his prime could not even beat the 1st.
The 3rd is ALL HYPE I know it was said he was the strongest hokage but how could he beat/overcome

His healing powers- Even if you land a fatal wound on Hashirama it will not last long because he can heal without using hand signs

Monsterous Strength- Good luck fighting him hand to hand his strength is INSANE it would be suicide to fight that way

How does the 3rd break through Hashirama's wood wall

Great Forest Technique is an attack for all ranges so it would be hard to avoid it

and last BUT not least how does the 3rd defend against Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees: it is Hashirama's STRONGEST attack and if the 3rd breaths the posion in he is DONE FOR.

Overall the 3rd is all HYPE it was stated he was the strongest Kage of his era but i do not see him beating A or Onoki... do you

Hashirama is the best hokage by HYPE ane FEATS. Who else could have taken down Kurama and Madara alone??

also Hashirama is CRUSHING IN POLLS

[ILIKEPIE]

beating Madara is enough proof for me that the first wins

[PrinceofPeace]

agreed HYPE or no hype The 1st will alwasy be the best hokage I do not care what hype is set on the 3rd

[joon61]

The first could beat madara but lost to kakuzu.

[ILIKEPIE]

Kakuzu lost to the first but managed to get away alive

[joon61]

But Kakuzu stated that he killed the first.

[ILIKEPIE]

he said he fought the first and he did not say he killed him

[joon61]

Oh.
I don't where i got the idea that he killed him from.

[Musouka-chan]

The First Hokage would win. Simply because of his sheer ability and seniority in battle. He has two chakra natures--giving him the wood nature--which would be an incredible hassle to face.

Not to mention he did own Madara and the Kyuubi in the same battle. Though he seriously got downgraded in the fight with the Third Hokage... oh well. He would still probably win.

Minato would come close. Say what you'd like but Minato was a genius. Yes he had trouble defeating Tobi but wouldn't any of them? Tobi could literally slip right through anything. Had the battle been prolonged then I'm sure Minato would have shined through. You also have to give him credit that this was an unknown enemy and he had the pressure of his wife and newborn child to protect. Followed by the entire safety of the village.

No pressure on his part. I for one that he did a very nice job.

But in all out fight, the first would win. Followed by Minato, then the second, and the Fifth would probably only win by surviving the longest. Not actual combat but she could probably endure (i.e., heal her way) through some of the battle. I haven't seen much of the third so that's why my opinion of him is so low.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

the 3rd in his prime could not even beat the 1st.
The 3rd is ALL HYPE I know it was said he was the strongest hokage but how could he beat/overcome

His healing powers- Even if you land a fatal wound on Hashirama it will not last long because he can heal without using hand signs

Monsterous Strength- Good luck fighting him hand to hand his strength is INSANE it would be suicide to fight that way

How does the 3rd break through Hashirama's wood wall

Great Forest Technique is an attack for all ranges so it would be hard to avoid it

and last BUT not least how does the 3rd defend against Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees: it is Hashirama's STRONGEST attack and if the 3rd breaths the posion in he is DONE FOR.

Overall the 3rd is all HYPE it was stated he was the strongest Kage of his era but i do not see him beating A or Onoki... do you

Hashirama is the best hokage by HYPE ane FEATS. Who else could have taken down Kurama and Madara alone??

also Hashirama is CRUSHING IN POLLS

jeez dude i didn't even say the 3rd could beat him, I said that it would be easier for the 1st to win because the 3rd is old. I voted for Hashirama in the polls. Calm down

[Opacityzero]

I define the strongest as being the one with the greatest overall ability.

When Minato has a single strong-point (Hiraishin), which he can't even hope to compete without, he doesn't meet my definition of strong. None of the other Hokage rely on a single ability to be powerful. They all have multiple strong points. By my definition; put everything about the character into one big package and judge them then. Minato's would consist of Hiraishin and Shiki Fujin with no other obvious strengths. His Rasengan is a weak version of Naruto's which clearly lacks the ability to do any real damage (see; Madara). He's never shown great taijutsu, ninjutsu (save FTG), genjutsu, etc. Go figure.

Then we have the other Hokage, each of which have much much more than Minato.

Note that I am putting into consideration databook and manga knowledge of the other Hokage, too (seeing as this isn't the narutoverse), otherwise the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Hokage would have close to nothing going for them, since we haven't seen them in action, or haven't seen their full ability in Hiruzen's case.

Hashirama - Bijuu control, strength in multiple areas (ninjutsu, genjutsu, etc), considered the most powerful ninja in his time, fought EMS Madara in his prime and won, etc etc.

Tobirama - Created Edo Tensei, could create water from nothing, mastery of suiton to the extent that he was known as the best suiton user to-date, was very skilled with S/T ninjutsu, sensor type, etc etc.

Hiruzen - Knew every jutsu in Konoha, was known as one of the (if not the) most powerful Hokage Konoha had ever had when in his prime, mastery of multiple elements, etc etc.

Tsunade - Greatest medic in the manga, created the strength enhancement jutsu, Sozo Saisei is considered the absolute pinnacle of medical ninjutsu, multiple feats in that regard, etc etc.

Minato - Hiraishin, Shiki Fujin..

Do you see the disparity in overall ability? Stupid question, of course you don't, you're a Minato fan. But really, his only strong point is Hiraishin. Aside from that, he has a weak version of Rasengan which he couldn't complete and what else? Nothing mentionable, evidently.

Ergo, in terms of overall strength, Minato ranks last. Minato is far to one-sided and only has one good move.

Hashirama takes it.

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

jeez dude i didn't even say the 3rd could beat him, I said that it would be easier for the 1st to win because the 3rd is old. I voted for Hashirama in the polls. Calm down

I am not mad at you I am just made at the hype of Hirzuen he has WAYYYYY too much

[Godaime Kazekage]

Originally Posted by Opacityzero

I define the strongest as being the one with the greatest overall ability.

When Minato has a single strong-point (Hiraishin), which he can't even hope to compete without, he doesn't meet my definition of strong. None of the other Hokage rely on a single ability to be powerful. They all have multiple strong points. By my definition; put everything about the character into one big package and judge them then. Minato's would consist of Hiraishin and Shiki Fujin with no other obvious strengths. His Rasengan is a weak version of Naruto's which clearly lacks the ability to do any real damage (see; Madara). He's never shown great taijutsu, ninjutsu (save FTG), genjutsu, etc. Go figure.

Then we have the other Hokage, each of which have much much more than Minato.

Note that I am putting into consideration databook and manga knowledge of the other Hokage, too (seeing as this isn't the narutoverse), otherwise the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Hokage would have close to nothing going for them, since we haven't seen them in action, or haven't seen their full ability in Hiruzen's case.

Hashirama - Bijuu control, strength in multiple areas (ninjutsu, genjutsu, etc), considered the most powerful ninja in his time, fought EMS Madara in his prime and won, etc etc.

Tobirama - Created Edo Tensei, could create water from nothing, mastery of suiton to the extent that he was known as the best suiton user to-date, was very skilled with S/T ninjutsu, sensor type, etc etc.

Hiruzen - Knew every jutsu in Konoha, was known as one of the (if not the) most powerful Hokage Konoha had ever had when in his prime, mastery of multiple elements, etc etc.

Tsunade - Greatest medic in the manga, created the strength enhancement jutsu, Sozo Saisei is considered the absolute pinnacle of medical ninjutsu, multiple feats in that regard, etc etc.

Minato - Hiraishin, Shiki Fujin..

Do you see the disparity in overall ability? Stupid question, of course you don't, you're a Minato fan. But really, his only strong point is Hiraishin. Aside from that, he has a weak version of Rasengan which he couldn't complete and what else? Nothing mentionable, evidently.

Ergo, in terms of overall strength, Minato ranks last. Minato is far to one-sided and only has one good move.

Hashirama takes it.

Srsly dude?? Not sure why you're ranting against Minato and me and Musouka-chan for supporting him, but you're missing some crucial points. We got to see one battle from Minato against an opponent who couldn't be hurt by any attacks unless he solidified himself-of course Minato is going to use FTG, nothing else would be effective-for that matter, there isn't a single other Hokage who would've been able to do anything against Tobi.

As for one good move-did you not notice his ST barrier? That's probably one of the best jutsu in the 'verse. Also, we got to see one battle from him in which he showed highly advanced Space Time techs, Rasengan, Shiki Fujin and a Boss Summon-that's already a bunch of techniques in one battle. He probably also has a bunch of other awesome techs, we just didn't get to see them and unlike most of the other Hokages his abilities are only shown in his one battle and not through other characters talking about him.

Further, what does Hashirama have that can prevent Minato from blitzing him and blowing off his head with Rasengan...nothing. Also, his greatest ability, Bijuu control, would end up being a liability in a battle against Minato-he has a Bijuu spit a TBB at Minato only to have Minato redirect it right at his face with an ST Barrier.

Finally, and this is directed at Kioroshi-there's a big difference between So6P and Hashirama in that So6P is 100% hype whereas we have seen a battle with Hashirama-and this, his only on-panel action, was a pretty pathetic showing-tag teaming with another Kage he was defeated by an old Hiruzen, who...guess what...used one of Minato's jutsu to defeat them.

Yes, I understand that Hashirama is a beast, but Minato is also no slouch and has the right tools to win in almost every situation.

[JLI2infinity]

Hashirama is a monster, the true defintion of a god shinobi followed by Third Raikage and Hiruzen as far as Kages go imo. I don't see Minato finding a way around Hashirama's defense, genjutsu, or healing ability.

Minato is a pretty one sided character. He had the potential to become the most powerful shinobi of all time but he said himself that the person he fought was stronger than him which is why Naruto needed the Kyuubi's power. If you look at Minato's life he didn't have time to take his abilities to the next level like all the other shinobi, that's why it's very impressive he became that powerful. The beginning of Minato's life consisted of basic genin training with Jiraiya as his master where he probably became as strong as shippuden Naruto but as a young child. Then Minato spent a large portion of his life developing his own techniques like FTG which probably took a while, and then Rasengan which we already know took three years. After that he got a team and had to fight in the war and then right after he got back he had to take on the title of Hokage and his wife was pregnant! Minato's life was a hectic mess, of course he didn't have time to become the most powerful shinobi.

Unlike Hashirama, Tobirama, and Hiruzen who had decades to amass fighting experience and ninjutsu, Minato had to take care of the people he loved and traveled the more typical shinobi route like Naruto, instead of heading ANBU Black Ops missions since he could crawl like Kakashi and Itachi. Minato not being the strongest is excusable. He basically found his own route to power like Jiraiya but did it in a shorter time period with more responsibilities, as opposed to his master who mastered Sage Mode over the span of his lifetime while travelling from village to village doing good deeds, writing novels, gambling, drinking, and spying on women.