Spoiler Kotoamatsukami ain't so perfect - Kinda failed.

[mrsticky005]

Originally Posted by Satsuki Muramasa

To Maruko - So he's supposed to do what Danzo did and kill people in Konoha... to protect Konoha? You REALLY want Itachi to be another Danzo?

If he was another Danzo he would have solved the problem a LONG time ago.

Danzo tries to solve problems before the fact.

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by Narutorious

^Who knows how Naruto would of turn out without Sasuke in his life though, for every action there's a reaction.

Naruto then would have been a friendless weakling. Perfect for Danzo to control.

[Ultimate combatant]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Maruko

Did you forget that Itachi is(was) under a genjutsu called Kotoamatsukami?
His ''orders'' set by Kotoamatsukami were: 'Protect the Leaf!'

But!
Itachi doesn't kill Sasuke (who is a threat to the Leaf), doesn't that make Kotoamatsukami a failing jutsu?
Since no one can resist Kotoamatsukami's order, Itachi had to disable Sasuke too in order to protect the Leaf, but he'll probably end up transferring some of his powers to Sasuke....powers which would help him destroy Leaf.

You are right!! Well done!!!

But who knows? Perhaps Sasuke will help protect Konoha at one point, what do you think?!!

[Satsuki]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

If he was another Danzo he would have solved the problem a LONG time ago.

Danzo tries to solve problems before the fact.

I'm sorry, I'll make myself a bit more clear.

Itachi under the Orders of Protect the Leaf would be the new Danzo if Maruko got what he wanted had Itachi killed Sasuke.

[Maruko]

The order was simple...Protect the damn village!
Even if Hokage herself was a threat and dangerous for the village, Itachi, who is under Kotoamatsukami, would have to disable her because that's what his orders are...he cannot resist Kotoamatsukami, no one can.
Sasuke isn't konoha ninja anymore, he's just a regular guy who wants to kill.

[Rikudo Sage]

I see no plot hole here..

1. Sasuke is not yet attacking the village nor hurting a leaf member..

2. Itachi knows that even if Sasuke tried to attack the village.. Naruto will be there to take care of Sasuke..

3. Itachi is the one who embedded the "protect konoha code" to kotoamatsukami.. Now wouldnt it make sense that the user who activated the jutsu can alter the code whenever he wants.. wouldnt it.?

if what the OP said is right,, then Itachi should have been acting like a merciless killing machine who would kill anyone who tried to attack the village. however, the fact that Itachi decided to tell the truth to Sasuke is a clear indication that Itachi's acts were his own free will and not under "protect konoha code"

[SageKakashi]

Sasuke wasn't endangering the leaf at the time so no the genjutsu is not a fail.

[joon61]

Kishi:*troll face*
Joon61:-_-

[Maruko]

Originally Posted by SageKakashi

Sasuke wasn't endangering the leaf at the time so no the genjutsu is not a fail.

Oh yeah he was...and still is.

[Satsuki]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Maruko

Oh yeah he was...and still is.

But he's not.

Think of it this way Maruko, he's like a brother to Naruto, correct? Correct.

Itachi sees this... Correct? Correct.

Why would Itachi kill him if a Leaf member thinks of Sasuke as his brother?

Another thing, Itachi already stated that he will leave Sasuke to Naruto, no matter what, he never intended to fight Sasuke.

Koto Amatsukami gave him two choices, as I've stated before, and unless you're a really slow person, you wouldn't be able to understand the two choices.

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PROTECT a Leaf Member, to save the Leaf Village.
KILL a Leaf Member, to save the Leaf Village.

Maruko, you want the KILL method/perspective, which is what Danzo would have done, do you want Itachi to become the new Danzo? No you do not.

You have to look at it from the PROTECT method/perspective as well.

[paradigm1977]

I still say the eye was destroyed before this scene, so it doesn't matter.

Koto wasn't even in use anymore.

At the least, the possibility defeats the idea of a plot "hole."

[kalmeast]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Maruko

Did you forget that Itachi is(was) under a genjutsu called Kotoamatsukami?
His ''orders'' set by Kotoamatsukami were: 'Protect the Leaf!'

But!
Itachi doesn't kill Sasuke (who is a threat to the Leaf), doesn't that make Kotoamatsukami a failing jutsu?
Since no one can resist Kotoamatsukami's order, Itachi had to disable Sasuke too in order to protect the Leaf, but he'll probably end up transferring some of his powers to Sasuke....powers which would help him destroy Leaf.

LOL! I think u should all stop making excuses..."why this" , "maybe that"... a plot hole is a plot hole and as Maruko noticed, that's a plot hole.

If Itachi's order was to protect the leaf whether consciously or subconsciously, he mustn't be entertaining a person bent on destroying the leaf unless KAK has a weakness such as the LOVE itachi has for sasuke...even so that'd be kinda cliche...
besides Stopping Edo Tensei = Protecting the Shinobi Alliance (NOT the Leaf)
Stopping Sasuke = Protecting Konoha specifically.

Kishi's wife is to be blamed...she made Kishi the genius to become fond of holes

Originally Posted by paradigm1977

I still say the eye was destroyed before this scene, so it doesn't matter.

Koto wasn't even in use anymore.

At the least, the possibility defeats the idea of a plot "hole."

I doubt that's how Koto works... Once u're caught in it, u respect the orders until complete. Otherwise it'd never be a successful genjutsu since it returns back to ordinary sharingan immediately; taking 10 years to be restored (unless of course when used by danzo)

[slyfoxx]

U GUYS ARE MISSING THE BIGGEST PLOT OF ALL......if the ms is activated by losing a dear friend(not killing) then has every uchiha felt that pain. How about dumdumdummmmmm..... how about pains ability to heal(revive) each other with that one path but Nagato is a freaking cripple.

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Maruko

Look, Sasuke was a member of Leaf, Itachi and Naruto can think of him as a member, but he is a threat!
Kotoamatsukami had a clear order-'Protect Konoha'
So, Itachi's subconsciousness should have made him disable Sasuke, because Sasuke is a danger to Konoha.
Sasuke said it: 'Just like you protect the Leaf, I will crush it.''
That's why I think that Kotoamatsukami failed, because it didn't protect Konoha from the dangers.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS

Guys how can you deny this as a direct plot hole. When I read the OP I thought, "Meh this is a soft plot hole." But after reading this and reviewing the panels there's no way around it. He has a sense of free will but only in his mission to "Protect Konoha." If someone directly says that they are going to destroy the village they are a DIRECT threat. Sasuke specifically said I am going to crush Konoha. We can look at this from the standpoint of basic law, you need precedence and means, this isn't just like some old man on the street saying "I'm gonna kick your ass" but can barely move. Sasuke has a deep emotional, political motivation to destroy Konoha and he has the means, he is an S rank shinobi with forbidden ocular jutsu. Itachi has no excuse for letting him live. Although I'm slightly glad he did, it was more of an emotional ending for Itachi's relationship with his younger brother, and I definitely want to see the Sasuke Naruto fight, but this is definitely a problem.

[Maruko]

Originally Posted by Satsuki Muramasa

But he's not.

Think of it this way Maruko, he's like a brother to Naruto, correct? Correct.

Itachi sees this... Correct? Correct.

Why would Itachi kill him if a Leaf member thinks of Sasuke as his brother?

Another thing, Itachi already stated that he will leave Sasuke to Naruto, no matter what, he never intended to fight Sasuke.

Koto Amatsukami gave him two choices, as I've stated before, and unless you're a really slow person, you wouldn't be able to understand the two choices.

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PROTECT a Leaf Member, to save the Leaf Village.
KILL a Leaf Member, to save the Leaf Village.

Maruko, you want the KILL method/perspective, which is what Danzo would have done, do you want Itachi to become the new Danzo? No you do not.

You have to look at it from the PROTECT method/perspective as well.

What does Naruto have to do with Kotoamatsukami? His opinion doesn't matter...

Also, you say that Sasuke isn't dangerous for Konoha?
I don't even...
Even if killing an ex Leaf member means protecting it...it must me done, I do know that Itachi loves Sasuke, but, damn, he's under Shisui's jutsu!

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Maruko

What does Naruto have to do with Kotoamatsukami? His opinion doesn't matter...

Also, you say that Sasuke isn't dangerous for Konoha?
I don't even...
Even if killing an ex Leaf member means protecting it...it must me done, I do know that Itachi loves Sasuke, but, damn, he's under Shisui's jutsu!

Exactly. And Itachi was merciless before, even of his own free will he killed his lover and his parents but under coercion of the most powerful genjutsu in the world he just lets the biggest threat to Konoha besides Tobi roam freely.

[Maruko]

Indeed, my friend, indeed.

[aimop95]

Not a plot hole, because Itachi clearly had plans to protect the Leaf Village. NARUTO.

The jutsu commands you to PROTECT the village, not kill anyone attacking or threatening the village. If it had meant that, then Itachi should have killed everyone since Tobi's forces would have attacked the village, like how Sauske would (and might still) attack the Leaf Village.

You don't have to kill the enemy to protect something or someone. Itachi laid plans for the Leaf's protection by investing his trust in Naruto, and since Naruto cannot lose in this show, Itachi has effectively protected the Leaf Village.

[Maruko]

I thought that killing those who want to destroy IS protecting it.

[aimop95]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Maruko

I thought that killing those who want to destroy IS protecting it.

That's ONE way of protecting something. Nowhere does the jutsu say you have to kill something to protect something. Heck, the united shinobi alliance couldn't kill the Edo Ten zombies but they "protected" their villages.

Itachi is protecting the Leaf from Sauske by leaving Naruto to deal with his nut of a brother, and also by taking out Kabuto...but since he didn't kill Kabuto, it is obvious that the jutsu doesn't command you to kill to protect.