Kabuto vs Pain

[321zigzag3]

It may be chakra based but I do not see him absorbing bones. Its an actual substance.

It is the same way that Preta PAth cannot absorb actual sand but the chakra controlling the sand.

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

Every single one of those are chakra based. Which allows Preta to absorb it.

Unfortunately Kabuto can't catch 6 people by surprise especially when they all have their eyes locked on him and they share vision. If he eats anyone whole then Asura fires a missile at him, in fact it'll be pretty bad if Asura is the one that he swallows, since he'll blow up inside him.

If CT can't be used without prep, then summons keep Kabuto busy. And that example you made was totally different to what I was talking about since he's going to be miles suspended in the air. Reaching to Pain's ears will be his dream. If Kabuto is just creating a wall, then what's stopping the Pains from simply walking around the wall?

He mostly accomplished this thanks to his Frog Kata, and without it he wasn't doing much in a taijutsu fight. Also, here Kabuto is outnumbered and outgunned. Let's look at the chapters again, Pain reacted to KN6's attempted speedblitz with an ST, and running away from him long enough to activate CT. And by evading, I mean't the multiple chakra arms that were chasing Pain around the place.

Even so, it took under a second to get to Pain. As for Susanoo arrows, Kabuto didn't dodge them. he was hit by one of them and then shedded his skin or something IIRC.



You list is pretty faulty. The last two of Kabuto's speed feats are invalid, being that shedding will be useless here, and Itachi being cut in half was a blindside and came from behind him which is completely different from speed. And you didn't list Pain's impressive reaction feat of using ST on a rushing KN6.

You need to read carefully and learn the difference between anime and manga feats. There were no chakra arms chasing Deva in canon, Kabuto has dodged the Susano'o arrows what you're thinking of is his tail getting knicked a few times, and Kabuto came right out of his shedded skin to cut Itachi in half, Itachi wasn't blindsided.

How does Preta Path absorb an Earth wall or web or bone those are all physical attacks not like fire, water, or chakra. You haven't mentioned White Rage once, and your whole argument is hoping that the paths can kill Kabuto before he pulls out Tayuya's flute. It hardly takes any time the only reason I mentioned the Earth wall was to give him so extra protection for the few seconds it takes to activate it but screw it, White Rage to Demonic Flute, end of fight.

The only ways the paths can even kill Kabuto are Human Path which would be incapable of touching him, Naraka Path which certainly wouldn't touch him, and Deva Path using CT which requires prep time. Hydrification, regeneration, and shedding makes physical attacks useless. You place all your hope in Deva Path who would also be outgunned in a one on one. This isn't even accounting for Kabuto's genius intellect.

[321zigzag3]

CT does not require prep time technically, all you do is flee, charge up a bit and then release.

Actually, a chakra rod technically is a counter to Kabuto if stabbed, Kabuto does not have automatic hydrification, his is more manual based.

But anyway let us ask this question.


Mega brought up the point that Demonic Flute would be better resisted as the Paths took in Toad Song for a while.

Can the Paths resist the Demonic Flute also if not what happens?
It does paralyze the body if I recall but the not the "mind".

[Jinchuriki Sora]

To be honest I think Pain would win but Kabuto's new power could have an advantage, so I have no idea

[Uchiha Sora]

^Hey you. You stole my name AND my avatar? What're u tryna pull?

Anyway, that blinding light jutsu should pretty much win his for kabs.

[Ultimate combatant]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

CT does not require prep time technically, all you do is flee, charge up a bit and then release.

Actually, a chakra rod technically is a counter to Kabuto if stabbed, Kabuto does not have automatic hydrification, his is more manual based.

But anyway let us ask this question.


Mega brought up the point that Demonic Flute would be better resisted as the Paths took in Toad Song for a while.

Can the Paths resist the Demonic Flute also if not what happens?
It does paralyze the body if I recall but the not the "mind".

Actually, Pain had to flee from the fight with Naruto to perform Chibaku Tensei. Also, it is very possible that if he tried that, he`d have to sacrifice other Pain bodies, like when he did Chou Shinra Tensei.

Once their bodies are paralyzed there should be no problem defeating them!!!

[321zigzag3]

But that isn't prep time necessarily.

He had to do that because he was too far away.

[PrinceofPeace]

Prep?? If so Kabuto wins

If not Nagato summons Konan inot battle now it is 7 agains 1
Then aniamal path summons 13 summonings (at least) Now its 20 against 1

[TobiramaSenju307]

edo tensei requires prep just as much as say, sasoris puppets or regular summons. if you deny that, deny those.
in fact dragging someones soul back and putting it in a sacrifice seemed to be a quick process unlike paper person of god and human puppet making.

anyway i think kabuto can blitz the weaker paths like naraka and human. he uses his sensing to dodge asuras missiles and animal's summons. manda II comes out to play and proceeds to solo all of animal's summons except maybe cerberus.

regeneration and liquefying can negate deva's attempts and muki tensei might control chibaku tensei. if theres edo tensei allowed then kabuto summons muu who jintons pain into oblivion.

[PrinceofPeace]

Pain wins by summoning Konan plus wiht the animal summoning a lot of summonings so pain crushes

[HashiramaSenju]

Kabuto is a lot stronger now but why is it that he would have a chance against Pain

[PrinceofPeace]

Kabuto
vs
6 paths of pain
about 12 summonings ( including Konan)

Thats about 19 against Kabuto. How can Pain lose

[TobiramaSenju307]

well kabutos got manda II which is freaking island sized.

[PrinceofPeace]

Pain can summon Konan... now Manda II has to deal with 8 enemies. He has no arms and his mouth is his only weapon so it will be hard to attack them ESPECIALLY when animal Path uses his summonings

[TobiramaSenju307]

also hiding underground and shedding skin to avoid attacks. if pains allowed to summon konan, then kabuto has all of orochimarus former ninjutsu. that should include mandara no jin and many hidden shadow snake hands. snakes tie up pain summons. and kabuto can pretty much tank most of pains attacks besides CT and soulfuk via body shedding, regen and liquid body

[Mangetsu Hozuki]

What the heck? I doubt that Kabuto can win. ST, CT, and all that other SoSP stuff. Come on! .This is the Summoning, chakra-absorbing, reviving, weapons sprouting, soul-taking, one-shot city Pain we're talking about, right? Not to mention Nagato's ability to master all ninjutsu ever to be known.

[Mangetsu Hozuki]

Don't even bring in Manda II. Pain sent three toads flying with a half-powered ST.

[JLI2infinity]

Why is this still an argument....White Rage to Kidomaru's web to Earth Wall to Demonic Flute /thread

[BMC1994]

Chibaku Tensei /Thread GG Kabuto.

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by BMC1994

Chibaku Tensei /Thread GG Kabuto.

CT takes prep, and might even require disabling the other paths (we'll never know because all the other paths were dead when Pain did it), Kabuto speedblitzed Itachi and Sasuke, no way Deva has enough time...GG Pain. Idk why you just ignored my last post with a basically unbeatable strategy but w/e.