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Old 05-13-2012, 06:33 PM   #1
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Default Turning Your Mind to Mush: The Possible Worlds Debate :D

1. A possible world is any world that is possible
2. An impossible world is any world that is impossible
3. A possible world is one that could possibly actually exist but it also might not
4. An impossible world not being possible is not and CANNOT exist
5. An actual world is a world that actually exists
6. Because an actual world actually exists it is possible that it exists.
7. An actual world can never be an impossible world otherwise it wouldn't exist.


I think we can all agree with this, yes?

Here comes the fun part

Is it possible that aside from the actual world (the one we know of and for the sake of argument we are assuming it exists and is actual) there
are no other actual worlds?

Let's try to explore this.

1. This world actually exists
2. Because this world actually exists it is a possible world
3. It is possible that there is a possible world where aside from it
no other possible worlds exist.
4. If such a possible world exists it would have to be the actual
world otherwise if there was another actual world it would then
be impossible for there to be a possible world where no other
possible worlds exist
5. If such a possible world exists and it has to be the only actual
world to exist (otherwise it would be an impossible world) then
for such a possible world to exist it would have to be this world
since this world exits and if another world existed it would then
be impossible for there to be a possible world where no other
possible worlds existed

Let's take a step back

1. It is impossible that there is a possible world where aside from
it no other possible worlds exist.
2. If it is impossible for there to be a possible world where no other possible worlds besides it exist then there would have to be other actual worlds because if the worlds were only possible but did not actually
exist then it would in fact be possible for there to be a possible world
where no other possible worlds exist and therefore such a world would
not be impossible.
3. A possible world is a world that could exist but it also may not
4. A world where it is impossible for other possible worlds to not
exist could exist but it also may not
5. A world where it is impossible for other possible worlds to not
exist would have to actually exist for it to be possible. Otherwise
if there are no other actual worlds then it would be possible
for there to be a possible world where no other possible worlds exist.
6. If a world where it is impossible for other possible worlds to not exist does not actually exist then it is impossible for it to exist because
if it could exist it would have to exist otherwise it would be possible
for there to be a possible world where no other possible worlds exist
7. If a world where it is possible for no other possible worlds to exist
does not actually exist then it is still possible that such a world could
exist but does not actually exist because other actual worlds exist
8. If it is impossible for "a world where it is impossible for other possible worlds to not exist" to exist without other actual worlds then "an
world where it is impossible for other possible worlds to not exist" cannot exist without other actual worlds existing.
9. A world where it is possible for no other possible worlds to exist
does not need (or rather can't have) other actual worlds exist
10. We do not know if other actual worlds exist.
11. It is therefore far more likely that this is the only actual world
12. If it is more likely this is the only actual world then it is more likely
that a world where it is impossible for no other other possible worlds
to not exist, does in fact not actually exist.
13. This world is the only that exists.

Ok actually I got dinner to eat!

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Old 05-22-2012, 09:10 PM   #2
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Default Re: Turning Your Mind to Mush: The Possible Worlds Debate :D

Define what a world is ... because if it is a planet, my telescope shows that there are other ones of those.
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Default Re: Turning Your Mind to Mush: The Possible Worlds Debate :D

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Define what a world is ... because if it is a planet, my telescope shows that there are other ones of those.
Sorry about that. This article might help

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possible_world


and really I'm probably just ranting as I know next to nothing of the subject.


I just wanted to write something long and convoluted that
would be a pain in the neck to try and unravel.
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Old 05-27-2012, 11:24 AM   #4
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I think he means dimension and yes maybe there are no others
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I think he means dimension and yes maybe there are no others
That's sooorta is and sorta not.
It's a philosophy term and therefore it makes no sense
like my post
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