Spoiler: Looking back, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Lame - Page 2

Uchiha Sora · 05-17-2012, 05:28 PM

First page of the chapter Itachi's eye is white in the bottom-middle panel. THAT was when he casted it IMO. Or thats when the startup began. Then it showed Itachi's eye whitening again because it was part of the time loop

Namikaze_Naruto · 05-17-2012, 06:03 PM

^ Was going to point that out too, that's when I thought it activated. It may be that Itachi needed to be cut by Kabuto to activate it, which is why he let him slice him in half. It seems kind of uncharacteristic for him to fall for such a simple ploy like that, my assumption was that he had done it purposefully.

Looking back at the chapters, it looks like both times when Kabuto directly stabbed Itachi are the ends of the loop he is stuck in. The loop starts when he stabs him on page 13 of chapter 580, and the loop is closed when Kabuto chakra-hand slices him in the previous chapter. For all we know at this point, that was part of his plan...

Rasen_Chidori · 05-17-2012, 06:08 PM

I noticed that straight away, it certainly proves Kabuto's speed is vasty superior to Itachi's even with sharingan.

kalmeast · 05-17-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wooster

What do you mean, you ask. Did not Itachi capture Kabuto in a genjutsu?
ok..another rant

...ok let's look at this
True. But what happened before that. Kabuto cut Itachi Twist in half with his chakra scalpel. The lamewad had no defense for that. The only reason he gets to keep fighting is because he is a damn zombie. That clearly means Kabuto is vastly superior to stock Itachi
lol...itachi isn't fighting to kill kabuto...if kabuto had to capture itachi without killing him, he'd not even have a chance...so sir, rather, the itachi zombieness is to kabuto's advantage too since he can fight at full force while itachi cannot.
.
But Itachi is a zombie because he deserve to be one. Itachi let Kabuto hit him because he knew it didn't matter. He is my god, you whine.
this is a sentimental statement so i'll pass

But wait, there's more!

Notice Kabuto kept going after Itachi after he cut him in half Why is that?
In fact, he stops using a chakra scapel and pulls out a kunai.

I'm bored, you moan. Let's move on. There is nothing to see here. Itachi is amazing. I want to bare his children
more sentimental ranting

Don't get your knickers in a twist. Notice the seal on Kabuto's kuna. Interesting, no? AND Kabuto is aiming it for the back of Itachi's head. But then the next instant he completely puts it away. So it is only for aiming Itachi head, huh??? What is that..O_SNAP
you're missing the point...the scene from where he switches from kunai to sasuke's sword is part of izanami. it's his destiny to grab sasuke's sword...so itachi wins...whatever kabuto does, he's gonna end up having sasuke's sword in his hands, and attack itachi with it...

Well, I'll be damned. Kabuto is about to put Itachi back under his control.

That's not true. That's impossible

Search your heart you know it to be true. I mean, sorry it makes too much sense. It's his seal kunai.

But it didn't happen because Itachi is amazing.

Wrong, Itachi Twist did nothing to stop this; he was a damn torso. Sasuke did. The Sauce threw his sword at Kabuto, which Kabuto's snake easily deflected, meanwhile Kabuto gets closer and closer to Itachi. Oh No, Sasuke then has to use his Susano'o to make Kabuto leap back.
lol...kishi is so bright that u can't even comprehend him...this statement is an error. chp 580 pg 13. Sasuke throws his sword and Kabuto grabs it. sasuke said "he wants to escape by taking my sword to cut the snake at the end"...in other words it's inevitable kabuto grabs the sword. Since it's part of Itachi's jutsu, ITACHI RECEIVES THE CREDIT. Man...i dont think ppl get this chp at all.

Given how much Sasuke has used Susano'o if he didn't have EMS, he wouldn't have been able to stop Kabuto.
this is only your speculation. An excuse to invalidate his success.

Itachi's arrogance that he was a zombie nearly was his undoing. He should listen to his own unending blather once in a while.
Where do u see arrogance in this truth?

Soo, Itachi is great..I mean Sasuke didn't..i mean he did.... you sputter.
ahhh...

Spoiler:

That's right. Itachi needed to be a immortal AND have extreme help from one of the most buffed up ninjas to just barely survive Kabuto's onslaught. Sure, I will give Sasuke credit, he seems more an adept fighter than Itachi at least.
hahaha...u hate itachi so much, u give sasuke credit for his skills? lol...if there's one thing that clear, Itachi is way more skilled than sasuke though sasuke might be more powerful b'cos of his EMS...don't forget to mention how many times itachi saved sasuke...can i really take u seriously when u make such a statement?

be all inclusive and dont be bias

Itachi himself is just pathetic. But that seems to be the case for the Uchiha, taking a free ride on everyone else hard work. Guess we know where Sasuke got it from. Glad to see he is starting to take the lead from Tobi now.
man! this is twisted and yet u call itachi, Itachi Twist?

Itachi taking a free ride on people's hard work? whose? kabuto's? seriously...u're comparing itachi to someone who steals other's ability and even wants uchiha's ability? what could be more opportunistic than that?

anyways...i understand Itachi's haters are obviously the minority...and we all know minorities make the most noise

anyways, it seems most ppl didn't understand chp 586... regarding sasuke helping itachi, regardless of what happens kabuto is going to end up finding sasuke's sword in his hands...that's part of his destiny. So even if u prepared 20 kunais with tag to overwrite itachi, he's goin'a fail and somehow find himself grabbing sasuke's sword...that's the genius of izanami...or should i say the genius of ITACHI

Kreegah!!! · 05-17-2012, 06:58 PM

As Kabuto crumbles to dust, Sasuke turns to Itachi and excitedly hurrahs. But Itachi's face hardens.

Sasuke's love-filled eyes burn with confusion...

"What is wrong, O Brother? Your love for me has opened my eyes! We are ready to win this war!"

"There is no war, fool."

"W--what?"

"You are useless even as a tool. Even now, you have failed my test?! You do not possess enough hatred!!"

"This isn't the time to be silly, It-"

"Open your eyes, tool."

Itachi undoes the genjutsu so Sasuke can comprehend his full power. Sasuke is there, back where his parents have been freshly murdered, and now his dawning comprehension sends him into a paroxysm of endless horror, needing no help from Uchiha genjutsu.

"I can make my own worlds in there, Sasuke! I can grow and cultivate them! This is the power of my harvest! I already had EMS long before, and I needed you to suffer to bring out the final evolution!"

Sasuke cries as the rinnegan forms in his head, but Itachi plucks them out, implanting one in himself, and giving the other to the real Tobi, who is Danzo. Danzo killed Shisui years before, and used his power to compel Itachi to murder the clan in hopes of gaining the power in service to him. Then Itachi used his Tsuki power to compel the villagers into believing the farce of Shisui still alive and well, and everything was good. After this, they made their moves against the Uchiha clan. Now that they have the POWER, they root out evil and dissidents everywhere, and stay in the shadows like true ninjas. Once the world is brought to heel, Danzo captivates and slays Itachi, and implants his eyes. Then he brings the world peace.

You may be wondering how it could all be a ruse if other characters far from Sasuke have adventures, too, but that is the beauty of Tsukiyomi. It fleshes out the world and brings it to "life". The real Naruto is still young and grows up to be a street urchin. Kakashi actually never lived past the 9-t fox attack. He died trying to protect a pill-popping Rin. Ten-Ten became formidable. Anyway, the manga's name is a plot twist and pun all in one package. It's not about the character, but the word itself, evidencing the cruel trolling planned YEARS in advance.

I really wish it were the truth.

kalmeast · 05-17-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frost ninja

I would agree aside from one thing...

We don't know how long Kabuto has been in izanami. Itachi has called the name several times and only just now said "your destiny is in my hands."

So when exactly was the point of activation? :L

One would assume when his eye goes "zuuuu" but theres no evidence that its the trigger since his eye is normal about 3 frames later. Above that, maybe this entire war will be ended by izanami.

"Destiny says end the war"

"k"

lol...when itachi screams "IZANAMI"...it's part of the time loop. so if kabuto goes through 21 loops, we'll see itachi say "IZANAMI" 21 times...just that simple.

but in actuality he only said it once in chp 581 pg 15

Wooster · 05-17-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Uchiha_Sora

First page of the chapter Itachi's eye is white in the bottom-middle panel. THAT was when he casted it IMO. Or thats when the startup began. Then it showed Itachi's eye whitening again because it was part of the time loop

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you're missing the point...the scene from where he switches from kunai to sasuke's sword is part of izanami. it's his destiny to grab sasuke's sword...so itachi wins...whatever kabuto does, he's gonna end up having sasuke's sword in his hands, and attack itachi with it...

Nope, both wrong.
It was activated on page 4. Notice Itachi's eye changing then. Also notice the SUH
Page 1 is just Kishi's horrible drawing skills. Notice on Page 2 Itachi's eye is back to normal.

Maybe people should pay more attention before ranting about Itachi.

Or try to determine the difference between brilliant parody and engaging writing versus ranting.

kalmeast · 05-17-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wooster

Nope, both wrong.
It was activated on page 4. Notice Itachi's eye changing then. Also notice the SUH
Page 1 is just Kishi's horrible drawing skills. Notice on Page 2 Itachi's eye is back to normal.

Maybe people should pay more attention before ranting about Itachi.

Lol...dont confuse the preparation of izanami (which was prepared a long time ago) vs the activation of izanami. while preparation is to "record", activation is to "play". so it seems u're the one who's missing it.
itachi prepared the loop using scenes from chp 580, 581. He activates it in 585.

And no. it wasn't activated in page 4. It was activated in 585 pg 13. The eye doesn't change before the jutsu is activated...that makes no sense. the change in eye is the effect of the jutsu's activation, meaning the activation takes precedence over the change in eye...

Wooster · 05-17-2012, 07:24 PM

There is no record.

It just takes forever to activate. See Frog Song.

Kabuto was screwed by page 4 when Itachi used Izanami. Itachi did nothing before that. It was completely activated a few pages later.
Before that Itachi was picking his nose. In fact, he barely released himself from Kabuto's genjutsu at the end of 585. And before that he told Sasuke he was not ready.

kalmeast · 05-17-2012, 07:39 PM

huh!...when itachi put lil sasuke under genjutsu, what did sasuke see? events of his parents killing which had already taken place in the past...

when u look at the loop kabuto is caught in, what do u see? events of chp 580 and 581. can u explain why kabuto is going through events from 580 and 581 only? oh well, is not like u're the listening type so i resign

EDIT: of course until next week's chapter when we see u was right

Twilit Lion (Leo) · 05-17-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wooster

Edit: Don't think I under stan your point Leo. I was only talking about Sasuke's EMS.

I know but that made me think, since Itachi does not have EMS he would've done terrible since Sasuke, who has EMS, needed to use Susanoo a lot.

Wooster · 05-17-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kalmeast

huh!...when itachi put lil sasuke under genjutsu, what did sasuke see? events of his parents killing which had already taken place in the past...

when u look at the loop kabuto is caught in, what do u see? events of chp 580 and 581. can u explain why kabuto is going through events from 580 and 581 only? oh well, is not like u're the listening type so i resign

EDIT: of course until next week's chapter when we see u was right

No

, but when was Kabuto trapped? If Kabuto was trapped since 581, why did Itachi keep fighting? Itachi obviously said he started something in 581, but if Kabuto took over Itachi's mind it was all for naught.

No, we saw scenes repeat when? Right after Itachi's eye went white. After that we repeat and suddenly Itachi's eyes are normal. Why? Because now Kabuto is in the genjutsu. When we see Itachi outside the genjutsu his eye is white. Between those two times are the genjutsu.

But really what is the first scene that we see repeated? When Itachi turns into crows and cuts Kabuito's horn.
No doubt that was crucial to start it. I'd say the sword and getting a piece of Kabuto nicked was what allowed Itachi to get it to work.

But as he told Sasuke he was not yet ready. So again, before page four. Itachi could be defeated because Izanami takes forever apparently.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilit Lion (Leo)

I know but that made me think, since Itachi does not have EMS he would've done terrible since Sasuke, who has EMS, needed to use Susanoo a lot.

Ohh, yeah, He can't spam Susano'o.

kalmeast · 05-17-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wooster

No

, but when was Kabuto trapped? If Kabuto was trapped since 581, why did Itachi keep fighting? Itachi obviously said he started something in 581, but if Kabuto took over Itachi's mind it was all for naught.

No, we saw scenes repeat when? Right after Itachi's eye went white. After that we repeat and suddenly Itachi's eyes are normal. Why? Because now Kabuto is in the genjutsu. When we see Itachi outside the genjutsu his eye is white. Between those two times are the genjutsu.

But really what is the first scene that we see repeated? When Itachi turns into crows and cuts Kabuito's horn.
No doubt that was crucial to start it. I'd say the sword and getting a piece of Kabuto nicked was what allowed Itachi to get it to work.

But as he told Sasuke he was not yet ready. So again, before page four. Itachi could be defeated because Izanami takes forever apparently.

Ohh, yeah, He can't spam Susano'o.

ok..ima try this just one more time...
the first seen of the loop is the large panel above pg 4, when Kabuto pierces itachi...(cutting the horn is NOT the first scene). second scene is when itachi turns into crows THEN the cutting of the horn. come on wooster...just check the damn thing and quit arguing.

if the piercing of itachi wasn't the first scene then why do we see it being the first repetition of the entire loop, starting page 4.
underneath that is 3 panels on the left. Itachi full set of eyes (within loop genjutsu), below, is itachi left eye weirded (real world)

compare to last page. One panel with itachi's full eyes (speaking to kabuto within genjutsu) next panel (itachi weirded eyes speaking to sasuke). The fact that the two panels are next to each other doesn't mean their in the same world.
lol..i'm debating to come to a conclusion but if u're not, notify me

Wooster · 05-17-2012, 09:06 PM

Umm, I am just speculating what started it for shits. I am talking about 580, so definitely not page four Don't know what you are on here. Kabuto piercing Itachi could just be as likely as the start.
Something allows the jutsu to work, I would posit physical contact.

None of that negates that genjutsu started on page four Chapter 586 when Itachi's eye changes. Kabuto notices that something happens then. If you can't realize that, you have no hope. If you want to argue that it is two panels that's pretty irrelevant. But we know the eye change is the start. If you want to say there is a second delay between the start and the eye seal, ehh. But Kabuto clearly noticed the something was going down during the eye change, so I will suggest that stab was actually real. Kabuto also didn't lose a horn right after, but he did in further loops; I have no clue what that means.

I already have said over and over again that we are back in the real world when we see Itachi's white eye in the second to last panel

In any, I am glad you admit that if Kabuto whacked Itachi before page four, Itachi would be Kabuto's mind slave and his jutsu would have failed.

Master Splinter · 05-17-2012, 11:12 PM

No IFs or BUTS,COULD'VE happen,wouldve happen...

Itachi made dog out of Kabuto.

Deal with it !

paradigm1977 · 05-17-2012, 11:25 PM

I just figure it works like "Kotoamatsukami." the user only has to see you to manipulate you. No matter if you don't make eye contact.

Master Splinter · 05-17-2012, 11:32 PM

^ It's simple: just like one + one , ying +yang ...

Wooster · 05-17-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Splinter

No IFs or BUTS,COULD'VE happen,wouldve happen...

Itachi made dog out of Kabuto.

Deal with it !

And Kabuto made dog Itachi.
Perhaps one should count ones chickens before they hatch.

Itachi is loser deal with it.

Cult of Personality · 05-18-2012, 12:21 AM

In related news, water is wet.

Master Splinter · 05-18-2012, 12:54 AM

We'll Kabuto IS Itachi's dog at the moment.

Continually deal with it - the Izanami way !

The chapter shouts:

"whos your daddy Kabuto ?"

05-17-2012, 05:28 PM	#21
Uchiha Sora Has a Keyblade Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chillin with Mabel and Waddles in Gravity Falls Posts: 9,686 Rep Power: 15	Re: Looking back, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Lame First page of the chapter Itachi's eye is white in the bottom-middle panel. THAT was when he casted it IMO. Or thats when the startup began. Then it showed Itachi's eye whitening again because it was part of the time loop __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Uchiha Sora; 05-17-2012 at 05:31 PM.

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Namikaze_Naruto Apprentice Genin Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The outer reaches of the Dagobah System Posts: 194 Rep Power: 5	Re: Looking back, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Lame ^ Was going to point that out too, that's when I thought it activated. It may be that Itachi needed to be cut by Kabuto to activate it, which is why he let him slice him in half. It seems kind of uncharacteristic for him to fall for such a simple ploy like that, my assumption was that he had done it purposefully. Looking back at the chapters, it looks like both times when Kabuto directly stabbed Itachi are the ends of the loop he is stuck in. The loop starts when he stabs him on page 13 of chapter 580, and the loop is closed when Kabuto chakra-hand slices him in the previous chapter. For all we know at this point, that was part of his plan...

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Rasen_Chidori The Smiling Assassin Konoha Historian Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,356 Rep Power: 16	Re: Looking back, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Lame I noticed that straight away, it certainly proves Kabuto's speed is vasty superior to Itachi's even with sharingan.

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Kreegah!!! Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,880 Rep Power: 15	Re: Looking forward, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Brilliant As Kabuto crumbles to dust, Sasuke turns to Itachi and excitedly hurrahs. But Itachi's face hardens. Sasuke's love-filled eyes burn with confusion... "What is wrong, O Brother? Your love for me has opened my eyes! We are ready to win this war!" "There is no war, fool." "W--what?" "You are useless even as a tool. Even now, you have failed my test?! You do not possess enough hatred!!" "This isn't the time to be silly, It-" "Open your eyes, tool." Itachi undoes the genjutsu so Sasuke can comprehend his full power. Sasuke is there, back where his parents have been freshly murdered, and now his dawning comprehension sends him into a paroxysm of endless horror, needing no help from Uchiha genjutsu. "I can make my own worlds in there, Sasuke! I can grow and cultivate them! This is the power of my harvest! I already had EMS long before, and I needed you to suffer to bring out the final evolution!" Sasuke cries as the rinnegan forms in his head, but Itachi plucks them out, implanting one in himself, and giving the other to the real Tobi, who is Danzo. Danzo killed Shisui years before, and used his power to compel Itachi to murder the clan in hopes of gaining the power in service to him. Then Itachi used his Tsuki power to compel the villagers into believing the farce of Shisui still alive and well, and everything was good. After this, they made their moves against the Uchiha clan. Now that they have the POWER, they root out evil and dissidents everywhere, and stay in the shadows like true ninjas. Once the world is brought to heel, Danzo captivates and slays Itachi, and implants his eyes. Then he brings the world peace. You may be wondering how it could all be a ruse if other characters far from Sasuke have adventures, too, but that is the beauty of Tsukiyomi. It fleshes out the world and brings it to "life". The real Naruto is still young and grows up to be a street urchin. Kakashi actually never lived past the 9-t fox attack. He died trying to protect a pill-popping Rin. Ten-Ten became formidable. Anyway, the manga's name is a plot twist and pun all in one package. It's not about the character, but the word itself, evidencing the cruel trolling planned YEARS in advance. I really wish it were the truth.

05-17-2012, 07:24 PM	#29
Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,978 Rep Power: 32	Re: Looking back, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Lame There is no record. It just takes forever to activate. See Frog Song. Kabuto was screwed by page 4 when Itachi used Izanami. Itachi did nothing before that. It was completely activated a few pages later. Before that Itachi was picking his nose. In fact, he barely released himself from Kabuto's genjutsu at the end of 585. And before that he told Sasuke he was not ready. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Wooster; 05-17-2012 at 07:27 PM.

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kalmeast Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Yttik A Ni Neddih Egalliv Posts: 2,775 Rep Power: 15 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Looking back, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Lame huh!...when itachi put lil sasuke under genjutsu, what did sasuke see? events of his parents killing which had already taken place in the past... when u look at the loop kabuto is caught in, what do u see? events of chp 580 and 581. can u explain why kabuto is going through events from 580 and 581 only? oh well, is not like u're the listening type so i resign EDIT: of course until next week's chapter when we see u was right __________________ Hashi's DNA + FTG = Time Travel To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. When Rikoudo Entered Sage Mode, His Hair Changed To Dreadlocks. Critic: "Your S1 alludes to Beethoven's "fate" Brahms: "any ass can see that"... such class of reverence Last edited by kalmeast; 05-17-2012 at 07:45 PM.

05-17-2012, 09:06 PM	#34
Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,978 Rep Power: 32	Re: Looking back, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Lame Umm, I am just speculating what started it for shits. I am talking about 580, so definitely not page four Don't know what you are on here. Kabuto piercing Itachi could just be as likely as the start. Something allows the jutsu to work, I would posit physical contact. None of that negates that genjutsu started on page four Chapter 586 when Itachi's eye changes. Kabuto notices that something happens then. If you can't realize that, you have no hope. If you want to argue that it is two panels that's pretty irrelevant. But we know the eye change is the start. If you want to say there is a second delay between the start and the eye seal, ehh. But Kabuto clearly noticed the something was going down during the eye change, so I will suggest that stab was actually real. Kabuto also didn't lose a horn right after, but he did in further loops; I have no clue what that means. I already have said over and over again that we are back in the real world when we see Itachi's white eye in the second to last panel In any, I am glad you admit that if Kabuto whacked Itachi before page four, Itachi would be Kabuto's mind slave and his jutsu would have failed. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Wooster; 05-17-2012 at 09:08 PM.

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Master Splinter Academy Graduate Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sewers Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	Re: Looking back, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Lame No IFs or BUTS,COULD'VE happen,wouldve happen... Itachi made dog out of Kabuto. Deal with it ! __________________ Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction. Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.

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paradigm1977 Chunin Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA Posts: 1,139 Rep Power: 6	Re: Looking back, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Lame I just figure it works like "Kotoamatsukami." the user only has to see you to manipulate you. No matter if you don't make eye contact.

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Master Splinter Academy Graduate Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sewers Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	Re: Looking back, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Lame ^ It's simple: just like one + one , ying +yang ... __________________ Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction. Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.

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05-18-2012, 12:54 AM	#40
Master Splinter Academy Graduate Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sewers Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	Re: Looking back, Itachi Twist is Incredibly Lame We'll Kabuto IS Itachi's dog at the moment. Continually deal with it - the Izanami way ! The chapter shouts: "whos your daddy Kabuto ?" __________________ Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction. Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.

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