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This a theory regarding how transplantion of Uchiha eyes work...
After a fair bit of careful observation I have reached the following conclusion To make the theory concise, I have deliberately refrained from stating how I reached those conclusions. General rules that can be applied to any dojutsu:
Rules that apply exclusively to sharingan transplant:
An explanation of abilities of all known Uchiha eyes users: Spoiler:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This theory is an spin-off of my original theory: REVEALED:Sharingan's secrets!The Truth behind the EMS! Since I refrained from going into too much detail some of you may get confused when I talked about True and Incomplete EMS. That being the case please refer to the above link and read the EDIT section. However unless otherwise specified, anything that has been said here takes a precedence over what has been said there, since that theory is outdated being about 8 months old. |
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lol kakashi has EMS since when?
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I have yet to see the "General Rules that can be applied to any dojutsu" applied to the Byakugan.... Therefore, those rules cannot be applied to any dojutsu.
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In tobis description you said after he transplanted madaras original MS and you said Nagato transplanted Madaras Rinnegan.Madara doesn't have 4 pairs of eyes and if you think his ORIGINAL MS then you are surely mistaken since those eyes lost their light.So I don't believe madara gave them to tobi and they regained their light.
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It's not stated anywhere or told by Kishi that a transplanted Sharingan never loses its light even though that might be true.
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this interesting but there are two information that are incorrect.
not everyone who awakens MS will have Tsukuyomi or Ameterasu. Otherwise instead of Kotoamatsukami, Shisui should have had tsukuyomi. If u say one genjutsu and one physical attack then i'd agree. Not everyone is able to have susanoo either even with both pairs of MS the second thing is that, not everyone will gain a new ocular jutsu when they get EMS. Itachi made it clear than many uchiha tried and failed to attain this new ocular jutsu. Madara was the only one who gained a new ocular power besides the previous MS powers. and we're assuming sasuke too. kakashi's MS power is not that special power that comes alongside EMS since that only occurs amongst clan members and Obito and kakashi are not kinsmen. What kakashi has is his regular MS power which is neither tsukuyomi nor amaterasu.
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Not too sure if Kakashi's can be called EMS yet..
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It's an Incomplete EMS
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Also there is nothing that suggests that user with a transplanted Byakugan say Ao couldn't have advanced it further for e.g in terms of range. So that why I said the those rules could be applied to all dojutusu
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When Itachi was close to death, he was almost completely blind, his sharingan completely faded and even his normal pupils were grayed... Yet after transplanting Itachi's eyes, Sasuke can see clearly, even better than before. There is nothing to prove that Madara went completely blind before transplanting Izuna's MS. His condition could have been similar to Itachi's. And in case you thinking about taking Itachi's story as proof, you are mistaken. There is no way that can be considered as a proof.
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The important point is that the MS changes host! I am not saying that it is the truth-it is an assumption on my part and a very important one. My entire theory revolves around it. Quote:
An important piece of evidence is the Uchiha tablet which according to Itachi states the secrets of MS. First is to control the Bijuu-this can be done via Tsukuyomi Second is to control Amaterasu. There would have been no point in mentioning these on the tablet if every MS user randomly awakened a different ability. Also during Sasuke's and Itachi's fight, Itachi used the above abilities Sasuke identified them as MS abilities. He was thinking about MS abilities in general, not as Itachi's MS abilities. Shisui cannot use Tsukuyomi because like Kakashi he has an Incomplete EMS. Unlike normal MS Shisui didn't lose his eyesight even after using kotoamatsukami. This suggests that he had an EMS of some sort He didn't have his own MS before he transplanted Tobi's MS, so he couldn't access those MS abilities. Quote:
Because to get an EMS you require to transplant an MS or awaken it after transplant. The only known MS users were Madara and Izuna. So even if everyone else transplanted sharingans they couldn't get an EMS hence no new ability EDIT: Everyone please read the theory carefully before jumping to the explanation part
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NOT ALL SHARRINGAN CAN ACTIVATE AMATERASU, TSUKUYOMI AND SUSANOO wether its original or transplanted.. so far.. we only have 3 Uchihas that were able to use Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo Madara, Itachi and Sasuke.. what they have in common? "SIBLING" Those 3 techs are only unlockable by Uchihas if they have sibling.. Its like a pre-requisite.. So if my conclusion is right then an Uchiha with no sibling can never awaken those 3 jutsus thats why Susanoo is rare as Tobi stated. Ammy, Tsuky and Sussy are tied with family tree.. Just like the myth..
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^ agree somewhat...and we don't even know if Madara had Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu at all...we're yet to see that. I'm certain if itachi hadn't transferred his dojutsu to sasuke, sasuke's MS could have acquired a different techniques. Itachi knew susanoo was one of the best and sasuke had to have it.
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Will Sasuke be able to use two-headed Susano'o like Madara?
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I hope he doesn't have to but perhaps he has that and is hidding it...I seriously want a fight between sasuke and Madara. Let madara face his past, a young boy with chakra just as ominous...
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