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Old 04-28-2012, 11:42 AM   #1
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Edo Madara is Immortal: Unsealable



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There is a reason that Edo Madara is "toying" with the Kages. I do believe that he has already done the math on his new skills in being "immortal" ("Edo", not Rinnegan or Hashi's Cells) and knows his TRUE potential. This potential lies in the EYES of an Edo Uchiha.

I didnt want to prematurely write this thread (although it may be still somewhat premie) and get flamed for it, but I was just waiting for the perfect piece of support information to suppliment my theory. I've had this theory ever since Madara was resurrected via Edo Tensei.

Edo Madara is actually unsealable, and unable to be beaten unless through release of Kabuto's Edo Tensei. Why...? The answer lies in the Manga released yesterday. Review the points below one-by-one:


1) Itachi said (in the previous manga) that he would use Izanami on Kabuto to decide his future. He also noted that using Izanami would close the users eye permanently.

2) Itachi said "get behind me Sauske" and he said that he was activating "Izanami" on Kabuto.

3) In this weeks manga, Kabuto uses another Sage Mode technique on Itachi to kill him. But as Itachi hangs in death, LOOK AT HIS RIGHT EYE. His right eye has already been closed ("sealed") at this moment.

4) Itachi says that Izanami and Izanagi is a PAIR. Sort of the way Amaretsu and (that Genjutsu, I forget the name sorry) are a pair of jutsus born of the ULCHIHA EYES. If you look closely when Tobi fought Konan, when he used Izanagi his Left Eye was permanently closed. In the current Manga, after Itachi has already "activated" Izanami, his RIGHT EYE is closed.

5) Now for the main point, which takes an assumption from this weeks Manga. Towards the end of this weeks manga, after Itachi's body regenerated itself, his right eye IS NO LONGER CLOSED. I repeat, after he is regenerated his right eye is no longer closed. If Edo Tensei regenerates the body after death, including the EYES, Edo Uchihas with MS could perform the forbidden jutsus without dying OR LOSING THEIR EYES.



(Note: To all haters, Itachi's normal Genjutsu will NOT work against Kabuto. Kabuto is not in any regular Genjutsu b/c they all are affected by the 5 senses, which Kabuto is carefully guarding. But Itachi already stated that Izanami does not alert the 5 senses. FYI)



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Summary: If Edo Eyes are able to be regenerated with the rest of the body after death, theoretically you can constantly use kinjutsu on the eyes... and after death they will just regenerate instead of being sealed and unusable.

THIS IS TAKING ITACHI AS AN EXAMPLE AND ASSUMING THAT THE EYES ARE NOT PERMANENTLY "SEALED" AFTER USAGE OF KINJUTSU & EDO REBIRTH.

So ultimately... Madara can SPAM IZANAGI everytime he gets in a pinch and is about to TRULY be sealed, turning the reality of him being sealed into a illusion. I predict he will do this once the Kage get strong enough to seal him for the 1st time, striking terror and fear into everyone's "will of fire" on the battlefield. Please post your comments/arguements. Chuuch.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:55 AM   #2
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4) Itachi says that Izanami and Izanagi is a PAIR. Sort of the way Amaretsu and (that Genjutsu, I forget the name sorry) are a pair of jutsus born of the ULCHIHA EYES.
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:50 PM   #3
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Summary: If Edo Eyes are able to be regenerated with the rest of the body after death, theoretically you can constantly use kinjutsu on the eyes... and after death they will just regenerate instead of being sealed and unusable.
I said the same thing in one of my threads before but we don't know for sure if it would be worth it or needed to spam izanagi and izanami and here's why. Izanami was used by Danzo and Tobi to avoid death but Itachi doesn't have to worry about dying because he'll just regenerate if he's not sealed. Also we don't know the effects of izanami yet so we don't know if it will be needed more than once because Itachi spoke very highly of it or if it will even work at all on Kabuto.
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I also thought this as well
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tell us sumfin we don't know

Summary should be this:

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Madara is overpowered.
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I said the same thing in one of my threads before but we don't know for sure if it would be worth it or needed to spam izanagi and izanami and here's why. Izanami was used by Danzo and Tobi to avoid death but Itachi doesn't have to worry about dying because he'll just regenerate if he's not sealed. Also we don't know the effects of izanami yet so we don't know if it will be needed more than once because Itachi spoke very highly of it or if it will even work at all on Kabuto.
You are wrong, Izanagi was used by Tobi and Danzo, not Izanami.


Back to the topic:
We cannot be sure that Madara's eye would regenerate after using Izanagi, he is Edo Tensei'd , that is correct, but we cannot be sure that his eyes will regenerate.


You see, when you are Edo Tensei, you body will regenerate after an injury, but Izanagi's eye shutting is not an injury, it's a simple side effect of the jutsu, it's the price you pay.
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You are wrong, Izanagi was used by Tobi and Danzo, not Izanami.
lol I made a typing error and didn't realize it I meant to say izanagi my bad.
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lol I made a typing error and didn't realize it I meant to say izanagi my bad.
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You are wrong, Izanagi was used by Tobi and Danzo, not Izanami.


Back to the topic:
We cannot be sure that Madara's eye would regenerate after using Izanagi, he is Edo Tensei'd , that is correct, but we cannot be sure that his eyes will regenerate.


You see, when you are Edo Tensei, you body will regenerate after an injury, but Izanagi's eye shutting is not an injury, it's a simple side effect of the jutsu, it's the price you pay.
Correct. This is the total reason for my ASS-umption that Itachi just used izanami and regenerated his eye after it was "sealed".

1) Chapter 581 Page 17
It says that Izanami has been activated. He also says on page 15 that the light is lost when using it.

2) Chapter 582 Page 3
Look at his RIGHT EYE. After he is "killed" after activating Izanami, his right eye seriously appears to be closed (completely darkened) while you clearly see the white in the Left eye. After his body is regenerated through Edo, his right eye is opened again and back to normal. Think about it.



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Just leads me to believe that he hasn't used Izanami yet.
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Yes, BlackChidori.
I my opinion, he didn't use it.
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Maybe he used it, but the Izanami takes long to process and the destiny that is decided is a bit later on the future, so not directly.

But he might've used it. Anyways, if you use a jutsu like Izanagi / Izanami (jutsu that make you lose your light permanently) and ET can still regen. it, we can conclude that a REVIVED Uchiha that can use such jutsu is simply immortal.
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^To regenerate means to re-create/heal wounded tissue/cells.
Light losing caused by Izanagi is not injury, IMO.
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I think ET regenarates every part of the body, makes it original. Maybe even losing the light of the eye, it probably heals brain functions as well, but I am not sure.
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Me neither, it would be really OP IMO!
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^ The only reason I don't want it to happen, it's good of Itachi has it, but for Madara, HEEELLL NO.
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