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Old 04-14-2012, 07:03 PM   #81
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Nope it's not Roshi at full power Kamehameha had no comparison at that juncture in the series. A concentrated form that sacrifced speed and was straight power. Not only that it is an baseless assumption everyone can do a Kamehameha on that level. Tien could do the Tri beam doesn't mean Chaotzu can. Piccolo did the special beam canon Goku definetely couldn't. Even Powerscaling you can't automatically assume anything. So once again your move. I do have an arguement and it is clearly the strongest one here.
Sigh. It doesn't matter what special moves they can do what matters is that they can all perform a simple ki blast, the level of destruction a single ki blast can cause increases depending on how strong you are. a person with a power level of 100 could probably destroy cities with a ki blast as seen with Demon King Piccolo (who wasn't using any sort of concentrated unique techniques). So a person with a power level of 1000 like Mr. Popo would be capable of mountain busting with basic ki attacks. It's simple logic. Vegeta said that destroying a planet sized meteor would've been "child's play" for him, he didn't need a special attack just a ki blast at a high enough power level. Piccolo at the beginning of DBZ when he was probably only half as strong as Mr. Popo was seen destroying moonS (that means more than one) with normal ki attacks (not special beam cannon or Kamehameha). He would just point his palm and shoot.

Your argument is really weak, both TheBlackChidori and I, have shown you that Popo has the physical strength, speed, and ki to spank the tailed beasts like little children.

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I don't see what all the speed calculations are for. With a power level of 1000 Popo obviously has the physical capabilities necessary to take on a Tailed Beast...Naruto greatest strength feat was flipping the Kyuubi which probably weighs about 5 tons MAX. With power levels of 10-20 Krillin and Goku could lift giant boulders and cars (around 2 tons) with little effort...Popo is about 50-100 times stronger than they are although lifting capacity doesn't directly increase with power level (as seen with base Goku who said lifting 400 tons would be difficult for him even though he was tens of thousands of times stronger than he was as a kid) but if lifting ability even multiplied by 5 with for someone becoming 100 times stronger in power level, Mr. Popo would be able to toss the Kyuubi around like a rag doll. Of course, the bijuu can't be defeated simply by physical means it doesn't mean Popo can't break them all like ponies and sit on their faces like Gamabunta did when Minato fought. So if he can't destroy them he can at least subdue them which is the same thing as victory when it comes to a bijuu.

But all that aside if Popo can fire a ki blast at the level of Kid Goku from Dragon Ball's Kamehameha the fight is finished, and I really believe he can. I mean just think about it...

Popo obviously understands ki manipulation, he can sense energy, fly, and teleport (although that might be a magic ability not a ki one). Even Spopovich who probably had a power level in the double digits could fire a simple ki attack. When Gohan was explaining ki to Videl, Goten who didn't even know how to fly or control his attacks just pointed his palm at a rock and said "It's like this" and blew it up. I seriously doubt Popo who shows abilities far more advanced than kid Goten and has served under Kami for centuries, cannot do the same thing.
The Third Raikage is also a god character in the Narutoverse, he was able to tie with the Hachibi when they met in combat. His son had the physical ability to rip off the Hachibi's horn. When the Kyuubi got hit by Naruto's FRS (which isn't even close to island busting or city busting level) he got knocked flat on his ass. Kid Goku and Krillin could easily dismantle A, Sage Naruto, and the Third Raikage in physical strength after one of their first tournaments and their ki abilities easily outclass the most destructive moves in the Narutoverse, and they can't even touch Popo. I think you are out of your mind here. Also Popo effortlessly ate Goku's Kamehameha which is easily as strong as multiple TBBs.

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Old 04-14-2012, 07:15 PM   #82
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Sigh. It doesn't matter what special moves they can do what matters is that they can all perform a simple ki blast, the level of destruction a single ki blast can cause increases depending on how strong you are. a person with a power level of 100 could probably destroy cities with a ki blast as seen with Demon King Piccolo (who wasn't using any sort of concentrated unique techniques). So a person with a power level of 1000 like Mr. Popo would be capable of mountain busting with basic ki attacks. It's simple logic. Vegeta said that destroying a planet sized meteor would've been "child's play" for him, he didn't need a special attack just a ki blast at a high enough power level. Piccolo at the beginning of DBZ when he was probably only half as strong as Mr. Popo was seen destroying moonS (that means more than one) with normal ki attacks (not special beam cannon or Kamehameha). He would just point his palm and shoot.

Your argument is really weak, both TheBlackChidori and I, have shown you that Popo has the physical strength, speed, and ki to spank the tailed beasts like little children.
I have put in bold multiple problems with your your posts. Let one of these veteran db debaters tell you whats wrong with it.
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The Third Raikage is also a god character in the Narutoverse, he was able to tie with the Hachibi when they met in combat. His son had the physical ability to rip off the Hachibi's horn. When the Kyuubi got hit by Naruto's FRS (which isn't even close to island busting level) he got knocked flat on his ass. Kid Goku and Krillin could easily dismantle A, Sage Naruto, and the Third Raikage in physical strength after one of their first tournaments and their ki abilities easily outclass the most destructive moves in the Narutoverse, and they can't even touch Popo. I think you are out of your mind here. Also Popo effortlessly ate Goku's Kamehameha which is easily as strong as multiple TBBs.
Now this is what I will respond to. The third Raikage had a durabilty that could take and survive moving at the speed of light and was only compromised via his own attack. So that doesn't debunk anything.

Next the Kyuubi still tanked frs which is an attack that destroys the cells of the body. It's power is not pure destuction. Not only that the fight happened in Naruto's mind it never happened.

Next don't just claim physical power feats prove it. You do know that early db physically was not that impressive besides speed. If you disagree prove it.

Next prove Kid Goku's Kamehamha was as powerful as you say. You do know that King Piccolo's ki attacks were stronger by far. That in fact Goku only kept up when it came to close combat.

Finally prove Popo was batting a 1000.

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Old 04-14-2012, 07:24 PM   #83
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I have put in bold multiple problems with your your posts. Let one of these veteran db debaters tell you whats wrong with it.
Or you could use your own brain and respond to the other half of my post which you ignored.
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:43 PM   #84
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Or you could use your own brain and respond to the other half of my post which you ignored.
No I won't I wll just keep it simple. Roshi destroyed a mountain and a moon.Notice he vastly weaker than everybody you named. But yet no one has duplicated his feats up until Raditz. So that discredits your ki levels equate attacks of same level theory. Tien held down cell with his attack and he was vastly weaker than android. Another contradiction to your special attacks don't matter theory.
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No I won't I wll just keep it simple. Roshi destroyed a mountain and a moon.Notice he vastly weaker than everybody you named. But yet no one has duplicated his feats up until Raditz. So that discredits your ki levels equate attacks of same level theory. Tien held down cell with his attack and he was vastly weaker than android. Another contradiction to your special attacks don't matter theory.
Never said special attacks don't matter, just that the power of ki blasts increases drastically with power levels, they don't have to be specialized. No no one duplicated those feats because there was never a need to. When was Mr. Popo ever thrown into combat. He never needed to showcase his abilities so he didn't.
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Never said special attacks don't matter, just that the power of ki blasts increases drastically with power levels, they don't have to be specialized. No no one duplicated those feats because there was never a need to. When was Mr. Popo ever thrown into combat. He never needed to showcase his abilities so he didn't.
Actually doesn't work like that. The clear difference between a basic ki attacks and special attacks is apparent. Raditz was the first individual to display the type power you are talking about. Popo is not on the level or Piccolo let alone Raditz.
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