What do you think about Sasuke?

[Utsusemi]

agreeing with ^

love your quote beeteedubs
(itachi)

[Star]

Sasuke is pretty much perfect- to play the villan. I hate him, but like him at the same time. He's adorable, but his personality kills it. He's completely insane with the over-obsessed 'goals' he has, and he always has a calm composure- Which I like/hate. Really, my opinion, he's the perfect villan.

[Conspiracy]

I've only read to number 49, because they are so slow to print the mangas in Denmark.. But I think that his childhood and brother has screwed up his vision of the world, and one day when he can't get what he want, he'll finally realize what he've done because of his blinkered vision, but then it's too late or something. He's cool on the attitude, though.

[sakura%]

What do you think about Sasuke?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh,
He is my best character ever ..
I love his personality ..
he is mysterious, shy and very kind
also his cooooool eyes that I can't stand it
I love him sooooooooo much

[phungnana]

I readly can't like him

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Sabaku.Soso

But Sasuke's "own choice" turned out to be becoming a criminal and destroy the village. Is that a good thing?

Yes if it weren't for Itachi it would not have turned out that way.

Instead of bolding "he slaughtered his clan", you should've bolded "bring peace to this world and yet he still wished to live a misunderstood life and be punished" to see that Im not contracting myself at all.

Sorry but genocide is not the answer to everything. Konoha was just being paranoid.

Itachi expected Sasuke to train hard and become strong like how Naruto did. Sasuke messed his own life up..

Sasuke was not the one who brought 72+ hours of torture upon himself, no, that was Itachi's business. I say 72 because it is like that in Tsukuyomi. Sasuke wasn't the one who brought a life of loneliness upon himself, once again that was Itachi. Unlike Naruto, he didn't get someone like Iruka to reach out to him and only bonded with Team 7 way later. As I have seen someone on this forum say, he was admired from afar, but no one actually did anything for him.

What would Itachi gain by being vengeance upon? Ive heard this argument many times from different people and its the worst one Ive ever known, whats so funny about being hated by the one you love?

He wanted someone to make up for his crimes. And he got that, at the expense of Sasuke's well being. So in the end, both he and Sasuke got the short end of the stick.

What kind of alternatives?

Such as only killing those who led the coup, or not lying to Sasuke and pushing him to hatred. When you tell someone to live their life hating everything, don't be surprised if they end up becoming some sort of serial killer or something.

Itachi was forced to become a criminal, and in order to bring peace to Konoha, he accepted. Sasuke chose to be a criminal while he had lots of alternatives. Thats my reason.

Um no he didn't. He got his ass kicked by Orochimaru, and then Itachi came and somehow felt the need to torture him some more, and then the Sound Four came to offer him power to get revenge. I am sure that if you were in that situation, you would feel that there was no other alternative. Like Itachi, Sasuke was given a hard choice, and he was very heavily emotionally manipulated. Itachi himself said that he was a blank canvas and yet he still painted Sasuke in all the wrong colors. It would have been inevitable.

Sasuke didn't have to follow Orochimaru. As I said, he had lots of choices and he picked the worst.

See above.

All of those were to prevent wars and make Sasuke stronger. What you called "torture" is just a kind of necessary pain you should suffer in order to be strong.

All Natuto characters have special abilities which could all be seen as supernatural. Hidan is immortal, Kisame has an unbelievable amount of chakra. Shikamaru's over 200 IQ, etc. Therefore, Sasuke's "harness the power of nature" is just one of them

I am just saying that it is one of the most impressive things in the series by far. Out of all the characters who could manipulate the elements, only Sasuke manipulated the real thing. Sadly, he seems to rely on only MS now....

[Sabaku.Soso]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Yes if it weren't for Itachi it would not have turned out that way.
If it wasn't for Itachi, there'd been a war in which Sasuke could've been killed.
Sorry but genocide is not the answer to everything. Konoha was just being paranoid.
Even Madara himself admitted that Uchiha was really planning for a war intending to overthrow the Hokage. No on was being paranoid here.
Sasuke was not the one who brought 72+ hours of torture upon himself, no, that was Itachi's business. I say 72 because it is like that in Tsukuyomi. Sasuke wasn't the one who brought a life of loneliness upon himself, once again that was Itachi. Unlike Naruto, he didn't get someone like Iruka to reach out to him and only bonded with Team 7 way later. As I have seen someone on this forum say, he was admired from afar, but no one actually did anything for him.
Itachi wanted to make sure Sasuke know who killed his clan (also I don't think that was Tsukuyomi since Sasuke was still somewhat fine when the jutsu was over).
Its true that Sasuke didn't have someone like Iruka with him but he could've get along with team 7. "No one actually did anything for him"?? Please take a moment to think about Kakashi and Naruto.

He wanted someone to make up for his crimes. And he got that, at the expense of Sasuke's well being. So in the end, both he and Sasuke got the short end of the stick.
It was a mission to maintain peace, not a crime. Itachi wanted Sasuke to live and become a strong shinobi. Seeing Sasuke as a powerful ninja was the last thing he wanted to do in his life, thats why he kept telling Sasuke to come and kill him.

Such as only killing those who led the coup, or not lying to Sasuke and pushing him to hatred. When you tell someone to live their life hating everything, don't be surprised if they end up becoming some sort of serial killer or something.
"Those who led the coup" were almost the whole clan. Can you kill some members of the clan without affecting the rest at all? And how old was Sasuke back then again? 6? Could he have understood if he'd been told the truth? And even if he could, then what? Itachi should've brought him along or left him behind?

Um no he didn't. He got his ass kicked by Orochimaru, and then Itachi came and somehow felt the need to torture him some more, and then the Sound Four came to offer him power to get revenge. I am sure that if you were in that situation, you would feel that there was no other alternative. Like Itachi, Sasuke was given a hard choice, and he was very heavily emotionally manipulated. Itachi himself said that he was a blank canvas and yet he still painted Sasuke in all the wrong colors. It would have been inevitable.

See above.
Truth be told, I don't know what Id do but I know Orochimaru is the bad guy and Kakashi is the good one. Remember the conversation between Kakashi and Sasuke right before the Sound 4 arrived? Why didn't he listen to Kakashi and stay? Think about Gaara, why couldn't Sasuke just be like Gaara? Train hard and become strong in a positive way?
Regardless of what kind of colors did Itachi pain on Sasuke, they are ones that made him as powerful as he is now.

Thats how I think it is, question?
I am just saying that it is one of the most impressive things in the series by far. Out of all the characters who could manipulate the elements, only Sasuke manipulated the real thing. Sadly, he seems to rely on only MS now....

Really? I find IQ 200 is ways more impressive

[Stephanieg467]

I used to completely despise Sasuke...but now I LOVE him, he's just so badass how can you not love him?

[Red-Hot Habanero]

I hate him. No, i love him.. xD *Uchiha-phobia, ya know*
He is cute, but sometimes he piss me off. I mean, he isn't so cool like he acts..

[Kuromaki]

@Sabaku Sorry for my late replies. I can't go on a lot.

If it wasn't for Itachi, there'd been a war in which Sasuke could've been killed.

Even Madara himself admitted that Uchiha was really planning for a war intending to overthrow the Hokage. No on was being paranoid here.

Chapter and page? A coup d'etat is not necessarily the same thing as a war. Furthermore, it's not like the entire clan was in on it, clearly proven with Sasuke being totally clueless.

Itachi wanted to make sure Sasuke know who killed his clan (also I don't think that was Tsukuyomi since Sasuke was still somewhat fine when the jutsu was over).
Its true that Sasuke didn't have someone like Iruka with him but he could've get along with team 7. "No one actually did anything for him"?? Please take a moment to think about Kakashi and Naruto.

It had the same characteristics of Tsukuyomi, and Sasuke got knocked out and woke up in the hospital a short while later.

Yeah that wasn't until way later when he got some time to know Team 7.

It was a mission to maintain peace, not a crime. Itachi wanted Sasuke to live and become a strong shinobi. Seeing Sasuke as a powerful ninja was the last thing he wanted to do in his life, thats why he kept telling Sasuke to come and kill him.

Apparently killing young children isn't a crime, nor is brutally torturing your young brother/. Even in a military based ninja world, only the worst of society would kill so many innocent people in a relatively peaceful time.

"Those who led the coup" were almost the whole clan. Can you kill some members of the clan without affecting the rest at all? And how old was Sasuke back then again? 6? Could he have understood if he'd been told the truth? And even if he could, then what? Itachi should've brought him along or left him behind?

We don't know how big the clan is. Plus there were still innocent women and kids who were not in it. What exactly justifies killing them too?

Who knows. The kids in the Naruto world aren't always stupid.

Truth be told, I don't know what Id do but I know Orochimaru is the bad guy and Kakashi is the good one. Remember the conversation between Kakashi and Sasuke right before the Sound 4 arrived? Why didn't he listen to Kakashi and stay? Think about Gaara, why couldn't Sasuke just be like Gaara? Train hard and become strong in a positive way?
Regardless of what kind of colors did Itachi pain on Sasuke, they are ones that made him as powerful as he is now.

The Sound 4 made him realize how "weak" he was compared to them, (this was also right after seeing how strong Naruto was getting) They showed him what it was like to have Orochimaru's power. Because Itachi had pretty much turned him into a power hungry kid, you can't really blame him now can you.

Gaara was extremely hate filled for most of Part 1, he only became an ally in the latter half.

That still doesn't classify Itachi's actions as good. The ends do not always justify the means.

Thats how I think it is, question?

I don't know why you would think that seeing your beloved family violently slaughtered by the brother you looked up to over and over for over 72 hours can be considered morally decent in any way, regardless if it does make you "stronger". Itachi's actions may have led to Sasuke getting more powers, but my point is that they are still reprehensible.

Really? I find IQ 200 is ways more impressive

Oh really. That is up to your tastes, but I think the author made it clear that controlling the very forces of nature is supposed to be looked upon with awe and wonder, at least in the Naruto world. After all, he did have Zetsu make a big deal over Kirin, and he made it seem like nature manipulation was a difficult task through Naruto's wind training/.

[WolfSpiritLover]

In the 'Naruto' Episodes I kind of liked him... While he was trying to be cool and everything while he was actually not that cool at all :P He used to be funny and cute ^^

In 'Naruto Shippuden' I really starded to get annoyed whenever he come's in the picture -.- Yes...he's still good looking...But really..That whole story about hate, revenge, becoming more powerfull...

Oke oke..I get it already...Now be quiet! -.-

I'm sorry if I hurt someone's feeling...But that is my opinion

[Shikamaru Nara]

No need for big walls of text:

He sucks.

[zaylol]

insane

[TheBlackDevil]

I thought he was those wannabe cool dudes at first, but after watching the scenes of his younger days, I thought he was a rather well-rounded character.

I'd give him a 7/10.

[Sabaku.Soso]

No big deal. Sorry for my late reply too.

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

@Sabaku Sorry for my late replies. I can't go on a lot.
Chapter and page? A coup d'etat is not necessarily the same thing as a war. Furthermore, it's not like the entire clan was in on it, clearly proven with Sasuke being totally clueless.
The Uchiha wanted to overthrow the Hokage, which's equal a war.
So what would have happened to the "innocent part" of the Uchiha if they had been spared?? The same life which they were living with no concern? No. Would they have sought for revenge? Yes. And things would end up exactly the same way as they did, except from some people were killed by Itachi, others by ANBU.
About Madara, you can find it in the part which he told Sasuke the truth about Itachi. Im the lazy type but if you can't find it or insist on me bringing it here, I will

It had the same characteristics of Tsukuyomi, and Sasuke got knocked out and woke up in the hospital a short while later.
Kakashi could've died without Tsunade, he was also hospitalized for a long time after being caught under Tsukuyomi. How can a 6 (or 7) years old kid withstand such jutsu?
Yeah that wasn't until way later when he got some time to know Team 7.
If thats what you call "ways later", then what about Gaara? He didn't have anyone by his side long after chunin exam.
Apparently killing young children isn't a crime, nor is brutally torturing your young brother/. Even in a military based ninja world, only the worst of society would kill so many innocent people in a relatively peaceful time.
Thats for the sake of the village. Would your "young children" become copies of Sasuke, deserting the village and planning on crushing it? Yes. Its the same thing to what I said about the "innocent part" of the Uchiha above. You'd have to kill them eventually, so why keep blaming on Itachi? Argee that they could've been educated but who in this world would accept to be taught by those who kill their family??
We don't know how big the clan is. Plus there were still innocent women and kids who were not in it. What exactly justifies killing them too?
So what would have happened to the "innocent part" of the Uchiha if they had been spared?? The same life which they were living with no concern? No. Would they have sought for revenge? Yes. And things would end up exactly the same way as they did, except from some people were killed by Itachi, others by ANBU. copied and pasted from above.
Who knows. The kids in the Naruto world aren't always stupid.
Then what? Bring Sasuke with him?
The Sound 4 made him realize how "weak" he was compared to them, (this was also right after seeing how strong Naruto was getting) They showed him what it was like to have Orochimaru's power. Because Itachi had pretty much turned him into a power hungry kid, you can't really blame him now can you.
This is the matter of personal conception. I don't see "power hungry" as a negative thing. Its just a shorter word for "the desire of becoming stronger and better". Naruto is power hungry. Lee is power hungry. Everyone is power hungry and so is Sasuke. But does everyone desert their village and become a criminal? No. So Sasuke is still the one to blame, not Itachi. Btw, did following Orochimaru make Sasuke a strong ninja as he wished to? No.
Gaara was extremely hate filled for most of Part 1, he only became an ally in the latter half.
So? He still became a nice character, didn't he? Remember his past is the worst of all
That still doesn't classify Itachi's actions as good. The ends do not always justify the means.
All Itachi's actions were to make Sasuke a powerful shinobi. Is that not good? Sasuke is the one who messed everything up.
I don't know why you would think that seeing your beloved family violently slaughtered by the brother you looked up to over and over for over 72 hours can be considered morally decent in any way, regardless if it does make you "stronger". Itachi's actions may have led to Sasuke getting more powers, but my point is that they are still reprehensible.
A part of that "beloved family" was planning a war, which would've kill many innocent people. Itachi killed every single emotion inside of him in order to protect the village. Can you imagine how painful that was? Thats why Itachi is a Saint. Comparing to what Itachi had to go through, Sasuke is still less bad.
Oh really. That is up to your tastes, but I think the author made it clear that controlling the very forces of nature is supposed to be looked upon with awe and wonder, at least in the Naruto world. After all, he did have Zetsu make a big deal over Kirin, and he made it seem like nature manipulation was a difficult task through Naruto's wind training/.

Naruto's wind training was difficult because he had to do 3 things at the same time: releasing chakra, shaping and adding wind, which even Minato couldnt manage to.