NaruSaku vs. NaruHina

[EYE OF AGES]

Originally Posted by Biggs Darklighter

Why don't you try to talk sense to him if you are so eager, SHINOBI OF DARKNESS?

If you don't like his opinions, JUST IGNORE HIM. He will go away if you leave him alone. By giving him attention, you are just making him famous. Trolls love attention and you are giving it to him.

Remember folks....

Spoiler:

regard alias change, even gandalf changed from grey to white. And people always like titles like doctor, detective, etc after completing some education.

A god of biomechanics, shouldn't have to explain why he's called that, now would he? Would it be trolling, maybe.

I don't see what's wrong with such. Many authors have multiple aliases, god has nine+ billion names, what then is he banned for trolling job? how could you even ban such?

Back on topic of course it's naruhina at least regards my vote

[PursuedAlive]

Me too-but I don't like how Sakura's violent towards him. *sighs*

[katsu uchiha]

Originally Posted by PursuedAlive

Me too-but I don't like how Sakura's violent towards him. *sighs*

What's wrong with her punching him a few times in the manga?

Its for comic relief and its part of her character, because after all she is a tsundere. Also she's keeping Naruto in line when he acts like an idiot, someone needs to reign him in from doing stupid things and that person to stop him from doing that is Sakura.

[Biggs Darklighter]

Originally Posted by katsu uchiha

What's wrong with her punching him a few times in the manga?

Its for comic relief and its part of her character, because after all she is a tsundere. Also she's keeping Naruto in line when he acts like an idiot, someone needs to reign him in from doing stupid things and that person to stop him from doing that is Sakura.

Sure she keeps Naruto in line, with fear. Naruto even said that he'd be wise not to make Sakura angry during the second bell test when Sakura found where Kakashi was hiding underground. Naruto is only being his natural self when he acts like an idiot. Naruto changing himself to be Sakura's lapdog and being kept under her thumb isn't funny at all. Sakura should be able to accept Naruto for who he is, faults and all.

I recall that Sakura in Part One told Naruto not to take a leak in front of her and do it in the bushes, because she's a "lady", however it was okay if it was Sasuke taking a leak in front of her. Then in chapter 347, Konohamaru showed Sakura's true colors with the Boy on Boy technique. Being a tsundere doesn't excuse her behavior.

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[l3thall3g3nd]

I think a hell off a lot off you overlook Sakura hitting naruto, it's for comical purposes that's really it.

Also going with the people close to naruto, 4th hokage and jirayia go for the strong women with a kind heart kusina and tsunade so it's unlikely looking at it this way that naruto's feelings for Sakura will change.

[Zatamizu Yougan]

Originally Posted by l3thall3g3nd

I think a hell off a lot off you overlook Sakura hitting naruto, it's for comical purposes that's really it.

Also going with the people close to naruto, 4th hokage and jirayia go for the strong women with a kind heart kusina and tsunade so it's unlikely looking at it this way that naruto's feelings for Sakura will change.

That's true. I mean, it's not like it has much effect on the story. If it had, imagine how many times Naruto would be in the hospital.

[l3thall3g3nd]

Originally Posted by Zatamizu Yougan

That's true. I mean, it's not like it has much effect on the story. If it had, imagine how many times Naruto would be in the hospital.

NH fans use this to support their paring which is stupid in my point of view but NS fans do point out some stupid things aswell not all NH and not all NS fans but a few do.

[Lari18]

Sure she keeps Naruto in line, with fear. Naruto even said that he'd be wise not to make Sakura angry during the second bell test when Sakura found where Kakashi was hiding underground. Naruto is only being his natural self when he acts like an idiot. Naruto changing himself to be Sakura's lapdog and being kept under her thumb isn't funny at all. Sakura should be able to accept Naruto for who he is, faults and all.

As people have stated it's mainly for comic relief. But I guess for the people who take it seriously, it isn't like Sakura is trying to change Naruto. She really doesn't hit him that often and she only does so when he deserves it(when he's perverted or when he does something incredibly stupid like stand in the way of her and Sai who just insulted her lol ).

She's not training him to be her lapdog or under her thumb. If she was she would be demanding he do things for her all the time and getting violent the moment he doesn't do things her way. But she doesn't. She can get annoyed and scold him. But she won't hit him unless he does something spectacular. If she was really trying to make him her lapdog then instead of telling him that she loved him to get him to go back to Konoha she would've beat him if he said no or something.

But really, it's supposed to be FUNNY. Seriously. It's drawn exaggerated-like almost every time and the one time it wasn't was for the Pain thing. Taking it seriously doesn't help any argument.

As for the bold, there's a difference between love and acceptance. If Sakura and Naruto ever got together, should she love him despite his faults? YES! Should she accept them? Not if they can be helped. Naruto's always trying to improve and better himself and given how bad he is in polite society Sakura can certainly help him improve himself.

And if it makes you feel better, Sakura's no perfect being either. There's plenty of things Naruto can help Sakura improve about herself as well. Mainly because:

1)Sakura is herself around Naruto.
and
2)The confession thing showed us that Naruto can stand up to her and is not a 'helpless idiotic puppy' around her like I've seen people claim. Nor is he afraid of her lol.

I recall that Sakura in Part One told Naruto not to take a leak in front of her and do it in the bushes, because she's a "lady", however it was okay if it was Sasuke taking a leak in front of her.

LOL she was a dumb fangirl back then . That kind of double standard exists in all of us when it comes people we like.

Think of it this way, if Naruto was on a team with Ino and Sakura(and this was the exact same time by the way. Very beginning of the second part of the Chuunin Exams) and Ino suddenly got the random urge to strip you can bet Naruto would teel her off(because he thought she was annoying). But if Sakura got the urge to strip Naruto probably wouldn't say anything. In fact, he would probably grin and watch like a pervert.

That's how it is. They were like 12-13.

Then in chapter 347, Konohamaru showed Sakura's true colors with the Boy on Boy technique. Being a tsundere doesn't excuse her behavior.

I don't get it. That was also meant to be funny. It was a casual moment between friends. And all of the guys knew she was being hypocritical given the way they looked at her and Konohamaru even points it out but none of them gave a damn.

So in the context of the story it was meant to be a funny, nonserious moment showing Sakura isn't as perfect as she preached proving that she's *surprise surprise* human. It didn't harm anybody in a long run.

Why not give us an example of Sakura actually causing serious problems for Naruto. The 'chase after Sasuke' thing doesn't count because that's been resolved.

[Biggs Darklighter]

Why is it people who defend Sakura's pounding of Naruto as "comic relief" when others call it pure assault and battery? Not everyone will share your idea of comedy.

Likewise some people will call what Hinata does "stalking" while others call Hinata's behavior "Shrinking Violet". I could just as well say that she's introverted and shy. But that alone does not equate to her being a stalker. She admired Naruto, she wanted to emulate Naruto, to an extent I would say she even loves him, but the term "stalker" is all too often blown out of context. It isn't really any different than those people who think Sakura beating Naruto is comic relief and those who find her beatings offensive?

Yes, the chase after Sasuke DOES count because she needed to be rescued. She was trying to assassinate Sasuke by herself because she didn't want to be a burden to Naruto anymore. Sakura got herself in way over her head.

She should have been honest and upfront with Naruto from the very beginning and told him what the others were planning. Resolved or not, she could have gotten her teammates (Kiba and Rock Lee) and herself killed. Being human means you learn from the mistakes you make in life and being held accountable for your own actions. I partly blame Sai for putting Sakura into her emotional state. However there was enough blame to go all the way around in that fiasco.

Another one is when Sakura got captured by Gaara in the forest of death. Naruto had to come and rescue her. She could have been killed.

[Taka-hebi1]

Hinata tried to save naruto once remember,That was a gesture of her love for him.
During Pain vs naruto is that correct?

[katsu uchiha]

Originally Posted by Taka-hebi1

Hinata tried to save naruto once remember,That was a gesture of her love for him.
During Pain vs naruto is that correct?

Yes but what does the amount to in terms to the many times Naruto and Sakura have put their lives on the line for each other? Not much I'm afraid.

[Taka-hebi1]

Originally Posted by katsu uchiha

Yes but what does the amount to in terms to the many times Naruto and Sakura have put their lives on the line for each other? Not much I'm afraid.

But if she didnt then the whole village would have been destroyed and everyone would have been killed her sacrifice saved many lives including naruto's. That to me counts allot.

[Biggs Darklighter]

Originally Posted by Taka-hebi1

But if she didnt then the whole village would have been destroyed and everyone would have been killed her sacrifice saved many lives including naruto's. That to me counts allot.

The village was already leveled to the ground when Hinata arrived to help Naruto.

[Taka-hebi1]

Originally Posted by Biggs Darklighter

The village was already leveled to the ground when Hinata arrived to help Naruto.

True but if she didnt save naruto everyone would have died still,It would have been like the village was slapped out of existance....The village hidden in the leaf Ha! if hinata didnt save him lol Village hidden in the ground.

[Biggs Darklighter]

Originally Posted by Taka-hebi1

True but if she didnt save naruto everyone would have died still,It would have been like the village was slapped out of existance....The village hidden in the leaf Ha! if hinata didnt save him lol Village hidden in the ground.

Actually it was more than just Hinata. Minato also was involved in helping Naruto.

[Taka-hebi1]

Originally Posted by Biggs Darklighter

Actually it was more than just Hinata. Minato also was involved in helping Naruto.

Alright fine Ill give you two the win in this arguement for now* Fades into the shadows and disappears*

[Lari18]

Originally Posted by Biggs Darklighter

Why is it people who defend Sakura's pounding of Naruto as "comic relief" when others call it pure assault and battery? Not everyone will share your idea of comedy.

It's not really how we interpret it as much as what the author intends. You bring a good point up with how some people interpret Hinata's behavior as stalking and others don't. Pretty sure Kishimoto just tried to show the 'shy girl innocently admiring from afar' but obviosuly not everyone sees it that way.

In the Sakura hits Naruto case it is clearly intended to be funny. The exaggerated expressions/movements, the fact that the wounds never last longer than a panel, the fact that every character like Sakura before has done it, etc.

Of course not everyone is going to find it funny and I can respect that. The problem is when people use it as a serious argument against the pairing. It's not. Because it's not supposed to be taken seriously in-universe AND out. The only time it was, was right after the Pain battle when Sakura punched Naruto because he worried her. That was the only time that was done 'seriously' and even then the serious didn't last because there was a hug right after :3.

So you can find it not funny. No one's forcing you to laugh at those moments. But you can't use it seriously as an argument.

And to be balanced, on the flip side I don't think stalker!Hinata can really be used as an argument against NH either.

If Naruto shows no problem with it then it is invalid I think .

Likewise some people will call what Hinata does "stalking" while others call Hinata's behavior "Shrinking Violet". I could just as well say that she's introverted and shy. But that alone does not equate to her being a stalker. She admired Naruto, she wanted to emulate Naruto, to an extent I would say she even loves him, but the term "stalker" is all too often blown out of context. It isn't really any different than those people who think Sakura beating Naruto is comic relief and those who find her beatings offensive?

Nope! Like I said above we are all entitled to opinions. It's just those opinions can't be used as legit arguments yo.

Yes, the chase after Sasuke DOES count because she needed to be rescued. She was trying to assassinate Sasuke by herself because she didn't want to be a burden to Naruto anymore. Sakura got herself in way over her head.

Well I really meant the promise of a lifetime thing but okay I'll talk about this. Yeah...and it was resolved. They talked, Naruto never showed any ill will towards Sakura for it, and she looks to be on the road to making it up to him. It's pretty much the only SERIOUS problem she helped cause for Naruto(other than the promise of the lifetime until Naruto made it clear that he was also chasing Sasuke because they are bros). Otherwise Sakura's been helping him this entire time.

She should have been honest and upfront with Naruto from the very beginning and told him what the others were planning.

What exactly would this have accomplished? Naruto's a stubborn guy and she knows that. If she told him he'd probably do all he can to stop her and others and waste a lot of time before Gaara and Sai told him straight. And even then he may not have listened just because he knew Sasuke might be killed and he was very against that happening.

But that's all speculation of course.

Resolved or not, she could have gotten her teammates (Kiba and Rock Lee) and herself killed.

I don't think so...She could've gotten herself killed definitely but there weren't any panels or anything hinting that Kiba and Lee were in danger. She drugged them in a pretty secluded spot and it wore off pretty fast. It wasn't like Sasuke was heading that way anyway since he was injured and Tobi wanted to give him Itachi's eyes.

Being human means you learn from the mistakes you make in life and being held accountable for your own actions. I partly blame Sai for putting Sakura into her emotional state. However there was enough blame to go all the way around in that fiasco.

True. But Sakura didn't throw the blame around she took responsibility for it all and a recent chapter did show that she's resolved to fix her mistakes and make-it all up to Naruto. So...I can't argue this point haha.

Another one is when Sakura got captured by Gaara in the forest of death. Naruto had to come and rescue her. She could have been killed.

1) Naruto also had to rescue Sasuke who ALSO could've been killed due to overusing chidori and the curse seal. And heck Temari could've been killed too. But yeah a big motivation for him was Sakura :3.

2)I thought it was already established that part 1 Sakura was weak until she studied under Tsunade? What's the point of bringing this up?

[l3thall3g3nd]

Hinata loves naruto, naruto loves sakura, sakura loves sasuke, sasuke loves no one. Right now will naruto change his feelings for Sakura No sorry NH I haven't seen one bit off evidence that naruto has stoped loving Sakura and I highly doubt kishi will do that now when we're so near the end off naruto. Now has Sakura stoped loving sasuke again No before chapter 540 I was 100 percent sure narusaku will happen then 540 comes out, when I think about why kishi put that in there I believe it's to show us that Sakura feelings for sasuke didn't change even after he tried to kill her 3 times because before that chapter narusaku seem 100 percent happening so narusaku dosn't seem to be happening at the moment. Now I know you could say kishi could develop Sakura's character more to show her feelings towards sasuke have changed but kishi himself admitted in his latest interview he has put Sakura to the back off his mind so narusaku dosn't seem to be happening. Now all you sasusaku fans
Must think your paring will happen and well no can not see this paring either, sasuke since shippuden has never made a hesitation to take Sakura's life that's no foundation to start a relationship. The only person sasuke has a bond with in konoha is naruto this is really clear at the kage summit arc, sakura he dosn't listen to, kakashi he dosn't listen to but naruto he hears out he even told Tobi to wait to hear out naruto compare that to Sakura and sasuke at the kage summit arc and you see how little he cares about her. So with the end of naruto so near maybe no paring will happen.

[SHINOBI OF DARKNESS]

Originally Posted by l3thall3g3nd

Hinata loves naruto, naruto loves sakura, sakura loves sasuke, sasuke loves no one. Right now will naruto change his feelings for Sakura No sorry NH I haven't seen one bit off evidence that naruto has stoped loving Sakura and I highly doubt kishi will do that now when we're so near the end off naruto. Now has Sakura stoped loving sasuke again No before chapter 540 I was 100 percent sure narusaku will happen then 540 comes out, when I think about why kishi put that in there I believe it's to show us that Sakura feelings for sasuke didn't change even after he tried to kill her 3 times because before that chapter narusaku seem 100 percent happening so narusaku dosn't seem to be happening at the moment. Now I know you could say kishi could develop Sakura's character more to show her feelings towards sasuke have changed but kishi himself admitted in his latest interview he has put Sakura to the back off his mind so narusaku dosn't seem to be happening. Now all you sasusaku fans
Must think your paring will happen and well no can not see this paring either, sasuke since shippuden has never made a hesitation to take Sakura's life that's no foundation to start a relationship. The only person sasuke has a bond with in konoha is naruto this is really clear at the kage summit arc, sakura he dosn't listen to, kakashi he dosn't listen to but naruto he hears out he even told Tobi to wait to hear out naruto compare that to Sakura and sasuke at the kage summit arc and you see how little he cares about her. So with the end of naruto so near maybe no paring will happen.

WOW, well put.

[Uzumaki_Naruto]

Hinata!!!