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Old 09-08-2011, 11:11 PM   #121
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It's not impossible to kill the bear with a katana. If the bear doesn't strike at you and aims to bite you. Take the katana and stab it right through the mouth or in that area at least. If you're fast and duck under the strike jump on it's back and slice open it's throat and it will bleed to death. Not saying anyone can really do it.
the katana would likely chip or break under the weight and durability of the bear- being made of terrible steel and all

oh and an animal that massive can spend days bleeding to death your still dead
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Default Re: You with a katana VS. A Bear.

well
what i do
is
drop the katana
and i enter in a fake death
if you don't move the bear won't hurt
you
then he leaves and this ends like a tie
oh and if i have a 50.000$ traditional katana that won't brake
i know how sharp it is
you can only stab him
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It would have to be one badass Katana. Considering most would break on the bones of a bear. Elephant gun or an assault rifle is what you need.
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The katana is 4 ft,the bear is a male and it is completely healthy.
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You're lost in the forest and ran into a hungry grizzly bear that want to devour you, your only defense is a katana.

Location:the bear's narrow cave.
Funny how so many keep asking what kind of bear when it's stated in the first post. Also, a male. The solution is simple, but let us tarry through, shall we?

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You've suddenly woken to your senses, realizing it was all a nightmare.

Location: your bed.

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Bear gets raped.Katana is overkill.
How'd you get around to his backside to stuff the blade there?

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I'd die.

bear would maul my ass.
Naw, it would admire you.

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When a bear get close they would raise up to smack you with their massive paw.I would let the bear came close to me and when they raise up, i'll stab them in the vital part like the eye or throat.
Bears can actually be unpredictable with attack postures. He could be as likely to just bowl you over, then swipe you. You're a little short to extend your reach into his eye if he's standing, and too pressed to aim well if he charges on all fours. Its head does not remain in a fixed position as it lumbers forward.

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Eye is vital?

Anyways, its me who wins.
I am feated by smokey the bear's character statement stating that "only I can prevent forest fires". Thus, I will the forest fire to not stop and the bear gets burned. I'll hide under my katana.


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What is the reach of the bears arms? Is my katana longer? Does the bear have rabies or cubs in the cave with it? Has the bear attacked humans before?
Good questions... smartest ones at this point.

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Ditto.
You're accident prone. You cut your wrist in the narrow confines and pass out. Bear lumbers past and eats a billy goat. Having sliced laterally and not longinusly, you are able later to crawl to safety, your dreams of being the next Lara Croft/Indiana Jones shattered forever.

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I'll slice it's head off...with one blow.
How long afterwards was it before you awoke?

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Me, i think...aim for the roof of the mouth when you get an opening
Too patient and you'll die.

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The first thing I would think to do is dodge its initial attack and counter by an attempted vertical thrust into its throat or the area around its throat in the hope of killing it with one blow. I can't tell you whether I'm actually fast enough to do that or whether that would successfully kill the bear, so I can't predict the outcome of this match.
Points for thinking it through, but it would not be enough, bro.

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The second it gets near you, swing the blade in a underhand fashion and cut off it's foot. Move to the side and do a forward jab with the blade in the center of his side hitting major organs, Killing it.
Not even with an axe or halberd, which would actually do considerable damage.

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run down a hill
Better roll instead!

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i'll probably get mauled first...
but i might be able to slice it once before dying
Slicing it is why you would die.

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I actually have confidence in my Swordsmanship. Also, be resourcefull! Its a narrow cave, so what i'd do is take aim (holding it by the tip) and throw the Katana Tomahawk-Style down the cave. Since its narrow, the Bear cant sidestep. Then after it hits I just shove it in farther. A second scenario is to run up the side wall and drive it through the head.
The blade would not imbed, even if the sharp side actually hit.

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i'ma beast swordsman. I just copy people's sword techs from anime and rape things.

I think the bear would win in the longrun.... he can probably take way more hits then i can... he'll just jump on me and eat me alive.
You wouldn't likely land a single blow, so yes.

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id freak and run, the bear runs after me, i drop my katana, stop and go crazy shouting: im sorry please dont kill me! even though i didnt do anything and he cant understand me.
You were doing sort of OKish until you started pleading and shouting.

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Depends what kind of bear it is. If it is something like a Black Bear, beating it with a katana could probably happen with at least minimal injury depending on your sword skill, but if it is something like a Grizzly, you are probably going to be mauled to death in about 5 seconds. Having been within 30 feet of a full grown Grizzly in the wild(that sucker was f#$*ing huge,at least 800 pounds easy) I don't think having a 4 ft. long sword wouldn't do you a lot of good.
You're wrong on nearly all counts. I'll explain why later. But good job at least using some sense.

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Yeah, I just assumed it was a Grizzly bear. I could take a black bear pretty easy.
No, you really couldn't, not if you're applying the same mindset as the others.

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one quick Iai strike and the bear goes down.........in my dreams.


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i would use my katana and chidori on that bear slice him up and bild me a fire cook him for lunch


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I stab it in the face. Or jugular after sidesteping.


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poor old bear he would die and i would love it im so cold
This collection of posts is so gruesomely awesome.

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anyone below the age of 18 and said they would take a bear lied unless you have muscles the size of the bear and speed as fast as(im not either so)....well i only no running speed but unless you can swing a sword faster than a bear can swing it paw. I'm pretty sure unless your that cocky you would be backing away instead of trying to die on that very day. some of you have seen to much anime as your not really gonna chop off a body part with some small katanas and average muscle size. you would wound it and make it madder and die quicker. If it were me I would even be in the cave. I'm a track runner. I would use my skills to run and take cover until it goes away to live another daY like a common sensible person would do.
Which might get you killed anyway, but kudos for using brains.

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Pretty sure the average human would die in this fight. Good thing I am not average. I am a certified badass.
Best show him your certificate first so that he'll believe you.

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It's quite possibly a double KO.

The Katana through the bear's throat would maybe kill it.
But you're going to be in range of the bear's claws.

Also not to mention bear's are hella fast.

The best melee against a bear would probably be a spear.

The idea is not to get in the bear's attack range.

Also I wonder if caltrops would help at all?
Now we're talking!

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well just cover teh katana in honey, the bear look at it starts licking, then i stab its throat and run like hell
This ain't Winnie the Pooh! Bear takes butter knife slathered in honey and wipes it across your mauled corpse before munching down.

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Bear speedblitzes.
He just wants a hug, Maik.

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i hand him the katana and tell him 2 go and kill some fish in the river with it. then i win by default cuz i will live.
Bear hates English and stabs you instead.

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There would be a number of ways to win
I think I would
When it comes to death or injury I'm fearless, not trying to sound cool or anything I think it's a problem I have lol

But anyway if it stood up and started to swipe at you
Block it with the blade
A katana can cut half way in to a tree easy if a bear hit it full force its paw would definitely be coming off and then it would freak out and run away or be distracted long enough for you to cleaveits head off

Or when it stands up slice across the way so its organs fall out

If it charges at you assume an awesome swordman like stance and roll out of the way repeat as necessary until you find an opening, maybe make it run in to a tree just for laughs

I want this to happen to me is that strange? Lol
You're incredibly stupid.

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I don't know how to use a katana, so I'd probably die.
Not if you follow my later advice!

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I don't see why everyone seems to think they could take on a bear. I own a katana and am undergoing weapons training via my martial arts class and I can't imagine myself killing one.
Sensei says to use your noggin, little one.

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I would agree. My katana is blunt as hell for safety purposes though. My parents don't want me to sharpen it.
Blunt is better than sharp in this case. If you're built.

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I would say to the bear

"Hello Mr. Bear. I heard you were hungry. I have a Katana. Don't worry I'm not dumb
enough to try and use it on you. Instead I think I shall sell it and with the money I get
from it I can buy you a year's supply of salmon."

Mr. Bear "Why that sounds absolutely scrumptious! Thank you very much. I love Salmon. It tastes much better than people do."

After selling the katana on E-Bay...

Mr. Bear "Why this Salmon is delicious! I like Salmon raw but it's even better cooked!
Why don't you stay and have some Salmon with me."

"I would be honored. By any chance do you have tartar sauce?"

"Yes of course. Salmon without tartar sauce? I don't think I could bear it"

and then we had a good hearty laugh.

MEANWHILE...

Tsubaki Steve: Alright you damn dirty bears! I got a katana and I know how to use it!"

Bear 1: "Oh no! Not a Katana! They tickle!"

Bear 2: "Don't worry guys! I brought Mongolian Armor!"
Best solution if you can speak bear!


Firstly, this is a male grizzly bear. Just drop and play dead. Seriously. YOU HAVE SURVIVED. When bear pads away, shove blade deep into ass, then run like mad. If you did it right, you'll cause enough bleeding that bear passes out before gaining on you. If not, he mauls you, but gets blood poisoning from intestinal damage and dies anyway. Long after you did.

You cannot chop or hack its limbs, head, or belly with a katana. This crap about getting through trees and saplings is likely nonsense, and even if it were not, plants do not work the same as flesh. Flesh has too much give, and on a bear it is toughened besides. You are only going to enrage it. Also, true flesh cuts are rare. Blades against flesh tear, crush, or saw. Stabbing and bludgeoning serve you better, but this ignores speed and reach.

Black bears, when enraged, do not lose interest in you when you play dead. If all you have is a glorified dagger, then you're screwed. God alone can save you. But not likely to happen since He seems to use them as instruments of punishment. See "Elisha".

Also, some of you need to stop ignoring IWD's posts. Even if you don't read the links, his posts themselves are enlightening. So stop being stupid.
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Even with a pistol, everyone would lose to a bear. It takes a lot of friggin damage to kill animals of this size. We need to get Shayd in here to explain this.

A couple slices may in the end kill that bear, but it will take hours. In that time, the bear will swipe your head off.

The way to kill a bear is with intelligence, not strength or skill. Making a bear fall into a pit and breaking all it's bones is easy. However, the scenario here does not allow it.
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Bears can actually be unpredictable with attack postures. He could be as likely to just bowl you over, then swipe you. You're a little short to extend your reach into his eye if he's standing, and too pressed to aim well if he charges on all fours. Its head does not remain in a fixed position as it lumbers forward.
you're also liable to break a Katana with the bears massive weight

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You're accident prone. You cut your wrist in the narrow confines and pass out. Bear lumbers past and eats a billy goat. Having sliced laterally and not longinusly, you are able later to crawl to safety, your dreams of being the next Lara Croft/Indiana Jones shattered forever.
totally worth necroing over I laughed


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that's what we been saying

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Also, some of you need to stop ignoring IWD's posts. Even if you don't read the links, his posts themselves are enlightening. So stop being stupid.
.trust in old Deuteronomy err Kraagahs words of wisdom

although that being said coming from you that's one hell of a compliment

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First of all I would like to say, guns are faster, also learn to use a Karelian Bear Dog. Putting that aside there is no way to tell if a katana could take out the bear since all you have said is the bear is male and healthy. WHAT KIND OF BEAR IS IT?<--For the record I just saw this link in my pm box and never read the first message thing. I take the What kind of bear is it back. That is very important. If it is a smaller black bear, then I would say a katana used appropriately could potentially take the bear down. But a Grizzly or Polar bear, or even a very large Kodiak Bear could be a problem.

What would I do? If it is a grumpy black bear? Well black bears hate noise, no matter how angry they are. Loud obnoxious clanging noise could be enough of a distraction to either get out of the cave, or make a stand and injure the bear. If you injure the bear in a region such as the legs, or ribs the black bear maybe stunned enough to again get away or go for an actual kill spot. If the bear is a Grizzly you probably will not survive. Grizzlies are usually pretty grumpy. Noise will not bother them, but enrage them. You could attempt to play dead. Know that you will probably be batted around and bit into. Does not mean he will kill you. When the bear thinks you are dead he will either leave the cave or head back. You either escape then, or surprise him with a fatal stab. But you better make sure you kill it, or at least injure it enough it is not coming back after you otherwise you may just piss it off more. A kill spot to a vital organ such as the heart, kidney/liver, spleen, jugular, or head. As for me, I wouldn't be in a cave anyways, especially in bear country.
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.... Are you serious? a problem..a problem

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Bear wins. A katana isn't powerful enough to kill a bear and I'm a pretty weak fighter.
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How this was ever a debate is baffling. Katanas are made for slicing, they are curved, you cannot stab something with hide as thick as a bears with one. Furthermore no human has enough strength to slice deep enough with a katana into a bear to do any kind of damage, and you'll only get one swing before the bear is on you.

Also the katana is a shitty sword. The only reason they kept using it and never advanced their technology (like every other major civilization) is due to them esteeming katanas to near mythical status. Katanas were heavily flawed from the beginning and were surpassed very quickly by other civilizations. Which is why they got their assed handed to them when they fought against people with Scimitars, which were the non-Japanese equivalent of Katanas, and were better in every way.

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I move to make willfully stupid posts a heavily infractible offense. The guy who replied to IWD saying he was wrong, but ADMITTING he couldn't be arsed into reading the link, should have tracked down and backsmacked hard. Or have those posts deleted rapid-like so the dumb doesn't spread. Just saying. >_>
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Default Re: You with a katana VS. A Bear.

I revise this.

Bears are faster than you.

Bears are stronger than you.

Bears can tank anything you do with a katana.

You aren't going to react to a bear bum rush.

The bear charges you. Everyone here shats. The bear mauls you. Any bone he hits shatters.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:03 AM   #134
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Default Re: You with a katana VS. A Bear.

while humans in general are alot more formidable than they are made out to be today (and by 'humans' i mean humans as they were in paleolithic times, as pack hunters), your still not designed to fight a large bear in one on one
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I move to make willfully stupid posts a heavily infractible offense. The guy who replied to IWD saying he was wrong, but ADMITTING he couldn't be arsed into reading the link, should have tracked down and backsmacked hard. Or have those posts deleted rapid-like so the dumb doesn't spread. Just saying. >_>
wow someone admitted to not reading the links provided
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and you'd be full of crap






.... Are you serious? a problem..a problem


The funny thing is in this case, she is right and you are full of crap.
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The funny thing is in this case, she is right and you are full of crap.
a black bear? via the tactics described..nooo

and other bears being a "problem" I didn't no understating horrible violent death was..valid
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Default Re: You with a katana VS. A Bear.

I would take Shayd's word over animal behavior and anatomy over you any day of week.

Frankly, if any one on this forum could survive this, it would be Shayd. If only because she would actually know where to stab the damn thing.
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How this was ever a debate is baffling. Katanas are made for slicing, they are curved, you cannot stab something with hide as thick as a bears with one. Furthermore no human has enough strength to slice deep enough with a katana into a bear to do any kind of damage, and you'll only get one swing before the bear is on you.

Also the katana is a shitty sword. The only reason they kept using it and never advanced their technology (like every other major civilization) is due to them esteeming katanas to near mythical status. Katanas were heavily flawed from the beginning and were surpassed very quickly by other civilizations. Which is why they got their assed handed to them when they fought against people with Scimitars, which were the non-Japanese equivalent of Katanas, and were better in every way.
central asian swords in general are more useful in actual combat and more reliable (isnt that the point of swords? nothing against katanas, its just that central asia holds it down when it comes to blades)

ideally against a large bear though, something like a halberd
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I would take Shayd's word over animal behavior and anatomy over you any day of week.

Frankly, if any one on this forum could survive this, it would be Shayd. If only because she would actually know where to stab the damn thing.
if she's some type of zoologist she still failed to get that Katanas chip on effing mongolian armor much less Bear flesh

so hah
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