Why Sasuke sucks.

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by Vivi

I hope you are trolling.

Sasuke isn't my fav character but ffs he is far from weak.

TBC said it for the most part.



I love how you ignore the Chidori Variants and just how much power is behind it.
You do know Chidori Stream was so intense that it shredded Yamato's Mokuton?

He probably not weak but he ain't strong as far as I know.

And Yamato's Mokuton is pathetic. It broke just by Sasuke jumping out of it.

[NagatoGod_of_Pain]

Just throwing it out there, Sai had a better speed feat than Sasuke. Much better.

Sasuke's current Susano'o seems unstoppable for now though.

[Uchiha Sora]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

He probably not weak but he ain't strong as far as I know.

And Yamato's Mokuton is pathetic. It broke just by Sasuke jumping out of it.

Stronger than Neji :trollface:

He probably cut it with his chidori sword.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

He probably not weak but he ain't strong as far as I know.

And Yamato's Mokuton is pathetic. It broke just by Sasuke jumping out of it.

You fail to realize or more don't want to realize the power behind it.

Physical Contact =/= Electrical.

It was PURE LIGHTNING that shredded the Mokuton and knocked out Sai and Naruto in one shot.

And not weak?
Yeah you said he is weak.

NO ONE EXCEPT FODDERS, KONOHAMARU AND HIS TEAM, KURENAI AND KARIN

Basically you are saying he is only above fodder yet you say he is not weak but neither strong.
Yeah I gladly take this as note of you just trolling now.

I leave the others to trash your logic as this is too low for my likes to deal with the likes of you.

[Kreegah!!!]

Before we really get into this, we should see how he stacks against these guys. I can tell you right now entrant number five possesses more stamina then Sasuke. Literally infinitely more.

[Uchiha Sora]

Tsukuyomi: Well. It really isn't hard to counter, your right. Bbut once you look down you're screwed over. You can't see any other attacks coming att you. Especially a silent one like ammy, or a fast one like chidori spear.

Ammy: Only reason Mr. Pro wrestler dodged it was because of his crazy synapses. Even RM naruto probably couldn't react to it. Current RM Naruto most likely can though. Same with minato. Most people don't know that bleeding=ammy.
Hell,most people don't even know about MS. The Cloud Ninja knew about it because they did research in light of stopping Sasuke IIRC.
Anyway, you can't throw an object in the way of ammy. The chances of getting the object in front of ammy while its being fired it little to none. If you do it too early, Sasuke will simply change his target to another body part. Too late, you get burned. Or, by some miraculous turn of events, someone actually does that.

Spoiler:

Sasuke concentrates, and his eyes begin to bleed.
Neji prepares to counter!
Sasuke uses ammy!
Neji blocks with piece of paper!
Sasuke uses ammy!
Neji cannot react!
Its a one-hit KO!
Neji fainted.

Btw, there's no bleeding in the first place since Sasuke has EMS.

Susano'o: No pain whatsoever due to EMS.... Arrows are only dodged by someone like A,Itachi,NAruto etc... Arrows can be STOPPED by someone like Danzo,Kakashi... basicallly high tiers only can deal with arrows.

Kirin:Well he can obviously use it prior to having MS. Its probably not as strong though. ENough to take out a few people though. And now that he has EMS he can spam ammy easier for more fire power. His other fire variants are pretty much useless when it comes to one on one fights, so I don't know why people bring them up.

Lightning Variants: They're great. CHidori isn't easily stopped. You have to have some pretty good reactions. Like you said, ITACHI, did it. Itachi>>>>>90% of the verse.
Not to mention that was PTS. Kakashi did it easier because Sasuke was in the air, falling.

Speed: Deidara couldn't react to Naruto? Hm.... wasn't that the same deidara who was missing an arm,bleeding out, exhausted from using up crap tons of chakra sealing shukaku, etc? And on top of that it was a blindside....

He did bad against those people because every one of his fights were against top tier and or legendary shinobi..

I hate Sasuke with a passion, but he isn't weak in the slightest.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by SageKakashi

What the hell? I lol'd at this Topic.

trust me you weren't the only one laughing I think I heard megabut laughing and COP all the way down here when we read yer reply

Originally Posted by SageKakashi

Dis-regarding Sasuke's speed? Seriously? Remember when Naruto first met up with him? He was lightning fast even to Yamato. That was like 60% compared to Taka Sasuke.

nobody in the NU is lightening speed

Originally Posted by SageKakashi

His stamina is at a decent level, not forgetting he is only 16 and doesn't have a tailed beast inside him like Naruto.

even Konhanaru has better stamina then him..he can do a rasengan clone combo and still have enough in the tank not to be irrelevant

Originally Posted by SageKakashi

His fight against Deidara was legit,

you call magically inventing new powers and retconning an entire element to be weak to crap it isn't legit?

harr harr

Originally Posted by SageKakashi

His fight against Danzo was pretty bad but it was gay both sides. Sasuke spammed Susano'o and Danzo had 10 lives.

Itachi almost died spamming and Danzo mercilessly picked him apart

Originally Posted by SageKakashi

Sasuke vs Killer Bee- Again Bee has way more experience and transformed into the eight tails for Christ sake, he had limitless chakra to top it off.

leaving out that Bee tore his chest wide open...before morphing are we?

Originally Posted by SageKakashi

Sasuke is a great Character,.

....are you serious?

Originally Posted by Yori

So you guys are mad at Sasuke because he had a fail safe? He came in that fight prepared and the result was him winning.

not what happened at all

Originally Posted by SageKakashi

Stop coming up with excuses. See this is what I hate about our BG, you guys give no respect.

no, see vs debaters A-N-A-L-Y-Z-E fiction we examine it applying standards for evidence and things like PIS and CIS to determine what fights and feats are legit...that Sasuke habitually looses validity points because he rarely has a legit moment is not our fault..not the BG's fault

Originally Posted by SageKakashi

Point is, Sasuke has skill and your downplaying his techniques to the point where your saying almost anyone can beat him which is crap.

Sasuke has no skill and while not everyone can beat him he has shown himself flawed enough that a great many character he defeated would be able to own him under legit plot free settings

[Yori]

Also like how you totally ignore TBC's post

[ILIKEPIE]

Sasuke is a character that is hated heavily and I would not be surprized to see a thread where people are arguing how he would lose to a baby or a piece of paper

[Cult of Personality]

Deus Ex Machina notwithstanding, Sasuke is a terrible character for his personality (or lack thereof) not his abilities.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Yori

Also like how you totally ignore TBC's post

I missed it still nothing we haven't all heard before

Originally Posted by Kreegah!!!

Before we really get into this, we should see how he stacks against these guys. I can tell you right now entrant number five possesses more stamina then Sasuke. Literally infinitely more.

ahaha cracked man wow

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by Vivi

You fail to realize or more don't want to realize the power behind it.

Physical Contact =/= Electrical.

It was PURE LIGHTNING that shredded the Mokuton and knocked out Sai and Naruto in one shot.

And not weak?
Yeah you said he is weak.
Basically you are saying he is only above fodder yet you say he is not weak but neither strong.
Yeah I gladly take this as note of you just trolling now.

I leave the others to trash your logic as this is too low for my likes to deal with the likes of you.

That doesn't really make a difference, and they were not knocked out. They awakened like, seconds later.

First of all, you need to read. Keyword is "probably," and second of all I didn't say he was weak I just listed who Sasuke can defeat. There's a difference.

Man, the trolling accusations is one of the reasons why the BG is a total mess right now. Don't start pulling a Nightmare Luffy on me.

Before we really get into this, we should see how he stacks against these guys. I can tell you right now entrant number five possesses more stamina then Sasuke. Literally infinitely more.

He wouldn't even get past the first guy

Tsukuyomi: Well. It really isn't hard to counter, your right. Bbut once you look down you're screwed over. You can't see any other attacks coming att you. Especially a silent one like ammy, or a fast one like chidori spear.

Ammy: Only reason Mr. Pro wrestler dodged it was because of his crazy synapses. Even RM naruto probably couldn't react to it. Current RM Naruto most likely can though. Same with minato. Most people don't know that bleeding=ammy.
Hell,most people don't even know about MS. The Cloud Ninja knew about it because they did research in light of stopping Sasuke IIRC.
Anyway, you can't throw an object in the way of ammy. The chances of getting the object in front of ammy while its being fired it little to none. If you do it too early, Sasuke will simply change his target to another body part. Too late, you get burned. Or, by some miraculous turn of events, someone actually does that.

Spoiler:

Sasuke concentrates, and his eyes begin to bleed.
Neji prepares to counter!
Sasuke uses ammy!
Neji blocks with piece of paper!
Sasuke uses ammy!
Neji cannot react!
Its a one-hit KO!
Neji fainted.

Btw, there's no bleeding in the first place since Sasuke has EMS.

Susano'o: No pain whatsoever due to EMS.... Arrows are only dodged by someone like A,Itachi,NAruto etc... Arrows can be STOPPED by someone like Danzo,Kakashi... basicallly high tiers only can deal with arrows.

Kirin:Well he can obviously use it prior to having MS. Its probably not as strong though. ENough to take out a few people though. And now that he has EMS he can spam ammy easier for more fire power. His other fire variants are pretty much useless when it comes to one on one fights, so I don't know why people bring them up.

Lightning Variants: They're great. CHidori isn't easily stopped. You have to have some pretty good reactions. Like you said, ITACHI, did it. Itachi>>>>>90% of the verse.
Not to mention that was PTS. Kakashi did it easier because Sasuke was in the air, falling.

Speed: Deidara couldn't react to Naruto? Hm.... wasn't that the same deidara who was missing an arm,bleeding out, exhausted from using up crap tons of chakra sealing shukaku, etc? And on top of that it was a blindside....

He did bad against those people because every one of his fights were against top tier and or legendary shinobi..

I hate Sasuke with a passion, but he isn't weak in the slightest.

Not really, because the other person can clearly tell when they deactivate Tsukuyomi. And that's when they start looking at Sasuke again. And no, he can't use Ammy and Tsukuyomi at the same time. Chidori Spear is rather dodged without difficulty.

SM Naruto can probably dodge it, since he can since chakra around him and in this case the chakra is Ammy. This is also how he was able to dodge the 3rd Raikage. There's also the fact that if they are throwing kunai at Sasuke in the first place then Ammy will not work simply because the kunai is in his line of sight.
There are a lot of people who know about MS already, especially the Sharingan in general. People even knew what it could do before even witnessing it, like Kakashi knowing that the technique was named Susanoo when Sasuke never even told him, or how C knew that Itachi could use Amaterasu and that they lasted for 24 hours.
By the way, he can't really do that since the kunai is in the way.

Spoiler:

Sasuke cannot spam Ammy like that..and Neji has more piece of papers. Namely, kunai. Or that same paper just gets hit again.

That only means you can't go blind. It said nothing about preventing feeling of pain, or it draining your chakra rapidly.

Above. And if you're far enough away, then yeah they can be dodged. That, or they can just be blocked by certain defenses since arrows don't really have much destructive feats anyway.

Kirn will arguably never be used again, sooo...

It's not really that hard to react to Chidori which is as fast as a normal punch. Also, Kakashi did it twice. The second time was when he did it to save Sakura. Plus, Itachi isn't that strong. But don't get me wrong, I don't mean to troll him or anything.

Pretty sure Deidara didn't need any of that to dodge Sasuke. All he used was something called legs and feet. And Deidara was never a real speedster in the manga, so yeah. Also, Deidara was blindsided by Gaara's sand but he still dodged.

Which means that he himself is nowhere near top tier.

Believe me, he is a very pathetic character and I have all the proof in the world to back up my claims.

[Kuromaki]

Just mad cause he's better than Neji :trollface:

[e710]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

Believe me, he is a very pathetic character and I have all the proof in the world to back up my claims.

That is your opinion some people like him. Just because you don't like him you can't start a thread saying he is weak because he is not he may not be the strongest character but by the end of series he will probably be in top 5 strongest character. If you want to start a thread about why a character is pathetic or you do not like him you should not do it in the Battlegrounds. Some of his power ups were due to plot but who he is now he could defeat most people he fought already and most people in the verse.

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by e710

That is your opinion some people like him. Just because you don't like him you can't start a thread saying he is weak because he is not he may not be the strongest character but by the end of series he will probably be in top 5 strongest character. If you want to start a thread about why a character is pathetic or you do not like him you should not do it in the Battlegrounds. Some of his power ups were due to plot but who he is now he could defeat most people he fought already and most people in the verse.

I understand opinions, but many times when I debate on Sasuke debates the Sasuke side starts calling the other side fanboys/wankers of the character that is versing Sasuke. Like if there is a Jiraiya vs Sasuke topic and the Sasuke side is calling people Jiraiya wankers because people don't agree with them.

That's the thing with wank. If you are claimed to be wanking then who's to say the other person is wanking as well

[Kuromaki]

You know its not only Sasuke fans who do that. In fact, I have rarely seen such an incident.

[Uchiha Sora]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

Not really, because the other person can clearly tell when they deactivate Tsukuyomi. And that's when they start looking at Sasuke again. And no, he can't use Ammy and Tsukuyomi at the same time. Chidori Spear is rather dodged without difficulty.
What do you mean they can tell when they deactivate it? Its not a lasting technique that he turns on and off. Well unless it hits. Btw Itachi couldn't use Tsukuyomi when he fought Naruto Kakashi Chiyo and SAkura. Nope. If they dodge backwards, he keeps extending it, if they dodge left or right, he just swings it in their direction.

SM Naruto can probably dodge it, since he can since chakra around him and in this case the chakra is Ammy. This is also how he was able to dodge the 3rd Raikage. There's also the fact that if they are throwing kunai at Sasuke in the first place then Ammy will not work simply because the kunai is in his line of sight.
There are a lot of people who know about MS already, especially the Sharingan in general. People even knew what it could do before even witnessing it, like Kakashi knowing that the technique was named Susanoo when Sasuke never even told him, or how C knew that Itachi could use Amaterasu and that they lasted for 24 hours.
By the way, he can't really do that since the kunai is in the way.
But that doesn't mean he's fast enough to actually dodge it.

Then he'll simply dodge the kunai.... lol... or just wait for it to hit the susano'o.. Besides an kunai is too small to stop the entire ball of ammy.
Kakashi has a Sharingan himself. He has a mangekyo himself. I think he would have his research done. Yes but the cloud ninja are the only ones who seem to have said knowledge. At least to that extent.

Spoiler:

Sasuke cannot spam Ammy like that..and Neji has more piece of papers. Namely, kunai. Or that same paper just gets hit again.

He has EMS now. That shouldn't be hard at all. And Kunai aren't big enough to stop the entirety of the ammy. assuming he miraculously times the ammy being shot out of Sasuke's eye when he has no clue as to when the ammy will be released in the first place.

That only means you can't go blind. It said nothing about preventing feeling of pain, or it draining your chakra rapidly. Thats probably why Sasuke has been spamming his techniques and hasn't shown any signs of pain. he actually looks like he's having fun. He said he's becoming "accustomed" to the eyes. You realize the "pain" is what causes your eyes to deteriorate in the first place right? The eyes bleeding... the pain... that means his eyes are deteriorating...

Above. And if you're far enough away, then yeah they can be dodged. That, or they can just be blocked by certain defenses since arrows don't really have much destructive feats anyway. They pierced Danzo's wood. Which is supposed to be very durable. Don't bring up Yamato's wood, because that wood was formed from a zetsuish hashirama on Danzo's arm. And Zetsus as you know are pretty durable.

Kirn will arguably never be used again, sooo...
Well you brought it up sooo...
And it probably will be used again considering the weather is very stormy in the manga. With actual lightning flashing everywhere.

It's not really that hard to react to Chidori which is as fast as a normal punch. Also, Kakashi did it twice. The second time was when he did it to save Sakura. Plus, Itachi isn't that strong. But don't get me wrong, I don't mean to troll him or anything. lolwut. Itachi isn't THAT strong? lololololololololol. HE blocked a RM Naruto blitz, kept pace with RM and Bee, dodged Bee's 7 swords dance, almost blitzed Bee, has Susano'o with a Yata Mirror and Totsuka sword, likely the most skilled genjutsu user in the manga... he's easily one of the top 10...

Pretty sure Deidara didn't need any of that to dodge Sasuke. All he used was something called legs and feet. And Deidara was never a real speedster in the manga, so yeah. Also, Deidara was blindsided by Gaara's sand but he still dodged. Deidara was heavily weakened when he got hit by Naruto, and is not the same Deidara as when Sasuke attempted to blitz him. The only thing making you thinking otherwise is your biased opinion. He was never a speedster because he just sits on his bird spamming bombs. That doesn't make him slow.
Seriously though. THE MAN JUST LOST AN ARM. He was losing blood fast, and had just spent tons of chakra sealing Shukaku away. Not to mention he didn't even SEE Naruto until he got hit. It was a complete blindside.

Which means that he himself is nowhere near top tier.
He sure is now.

Believe me, he is a very pathetic character and I have all the proof in the world to back up my claims.

Not nearly as pathetic as you make him out to be.

[megabbaut]

Okay the internal server error just deleted everything I just wrote, so I'll just say that I try to be as impartial as possible every time I debate, and what I mean't by Itachi not being that strong was that he would not be able to solo 90% of the verse. Even Sasuke knew that no matter how strong Itachi was he wouldn't be able to slaughter an entire clan.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by e710

That is your opinion some people like him. Just because you don't like him you can't start a thread saying he is weak

you're right but what he can do is create a thread attacking the positions of Sasuke fans..the fans themselves for their biased and he is entirely within his right to point out the invalidity of their views regarding who he can and can't beat providing his argument is good enough

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

You know its not only Sasuke fans who do that. In fact, I have rarely seen such an incident.

really? So you think they're just "as guilty as everyone else?" do you feel we should be fair? Because that's funny see I've seen all manner of depravity from Uchiha fans..my life has been threatened by Sasuketards the life of members of my family..have been threatened because they can't handle when he looses fights

have you seen them claim Susano'o can stop the deathstar? That Yata no Kagami can block universe destroying attacks? I have..one time I had to debate against it on MFG alone..for twenty god damn pages because everyone around me was either a moron fanboy..or too tired to invest in the struggle

I've seen all manner of stupidity dishonesty and rampant viciousness perpetrated by the Naruto fandom especially the Sasuke and Itachi and Uchiha fandoms..

so don't sit here and claim that they are just 'no worse then the rest" when they are.. and have proven themselves to be the lowest of the low time and time again

[Lone_Espada]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

you're right but what he can do is create a thread attacking the positions of Sasuke fans..the fans themselves for their biased and he is entirely within his right to point out the invalidity of their views regarding who he can and can't beat providing his argument is good enough



really? So you think they're just "as guilty as everyone else?" do you feel we should be fair? Because that's funny see I've seen all manner of depravity from Uchiha fans..my life has been threatened by Sasuketards the life of members of my family..have been threatened because they can't handle when he looses fights

have you seen them claim Susano'o can stop the deathstar? That Yata no Kagami can block universe destroying attacks? I have..one time I had to debate against it on MFG alone..for twenty god damn pages because everyone around me was either a moron fanboy..or too tired to invest in the struggle

I've seen all manner of stupidity dishonesty and rampant viciousness perpetrated by the Naruto fandom especially the Sasuke and Itachi and Uchiha fandoms..

so don't sit here and claim that they are just 'no worse then the rest" when they are.. and have proven themselves to be the lowest of the low time and time again

I think I pissed my pants from laughing so hard.