Ulquiorra vs. Barragan vs. Starrk

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by Noctis Arashi

Barely if you can call it that.

Plus the destructive force behind a lanza de relmpalgo>>>> of Soi Fong's bankai.

In what way? I basically does what Lanza del ralampago does. A huge blast radius, and a mid-city buster.

And it was never successful on Hollow Ichigo so we will probably never see the full power of it.

[Cult of Personality]

They do the same thing but Lanza is far more powerful. We have an idea of what it can do based on the blast size, even if it never hit anyone.

But no, Soifon's bankai is not anywhere close to city buster.

[Noctis Arashi]

Lanza created a blast large enough to extend into the sky, and take up an area larger then the place they were fighting.

Soi Fon's bankai didn't even break hachi's barrier.

[Carbon Monoxide]

Overestimating barry's power now are we?

the explosion failed because an explosion is omnidirectional...only a fraction of the explosion's power ever reached him exploding it early does even moar. think of it like this; if a grenade exploded 3 meters in front of you, would you have take the full blast of the grenade? hell. no. the shrapnel goes in all directions, only a tiny fraction reaches you.

so only a tiny fraction reached bara, and what hit him was easily dispersed by his tdf field or respira, or whatever you wanna call it, it doesn't matter; when he was actually hit with soi's bankai, and not even full power at that (energy used to crack barrier=massive) barry went away with half a head.

neither stark nor ulq rely on explosions with ceros, all power is unidirectional, it is oriented in one direction, and in the case of lanza it'll only explode if it misses and hits the ground instead, otherwise no. They, and also nearly all captains would do better against him than soi and her pathetic bankai...which isn't even a city buster at that.

as for who wins...a tie, i really don't know. but needed people to stop wanking bara.

[Noctis Arashi]

Get rid of those links. No Viz Material of any sort.

Otherwise, valid point.

[Cult of Personality]

They, and also nearly all captains would do better against him than soi and her pathetic bankai

Yamamoto, Aizen, maybe Gin and Shunsui. I can't think of anyone else that could possibly compete with Baraggan. Especially considering Soifon is one of the fastest captains.

And Soifon's bankai is anything but pathetic. It takes a big smelly dumb on 90% of the bankais shown.

Kamishini no Yari, Tensa Zangetsu and maybe Senbonzakura Kageyoshi. But everything else is vastly inferior.

[Carbon Monoxide]

Originally Posted by Cult of Personality

Yamamoto, Aizen, maybe Gin and Shunsui. I can't think of anyone else that could possibly compete with Baraggan. Especially considering Soifon is one of the fastest captains.

And Soifon's bankai is anything but pathetic. It takes a big smelly dumb on 90% of the bankais shown.

Kamishini no Yari, Tensa Zangetsu and maybe Senbonzakura Kageyoshi. But everything else is vastly inferior.

if you paid attention to what i wrote, it was that they'd do better than soi, not that they could win...she failed horribly, some may fail, but most not as horribly.

her speed "advantage" also doesn't count for jack...considering bara blitzed her once with his speed and then with respira...the only reason she escaped was 'cause he didn't try to catch her...his arrogance prevents him from doing so to others, that is why i say others will do better

Koma; brute force, the Bankai attacks far faster than Koma himself; do a little math, since it has to match all of Koma's movements, and it's bigger...if it's swinging the same arc in the same time, angular velocity is the same, but the linear velocity is...far...far...more, in fact it's as many times more as Koma's bankai is bigger than him. AND all the force is unidirectional

A little math shows that increased torque, increased mass exponentially increases the power of his UNIdirectional attack...and the increased speed makes it harder to age via tdf/respira than anything Bara has shown to stop...plus can be used in rapid rapid succession.

With hits you have HH. Unidirectional and MASSIVE amounts of snow in an environment Hits can control, especially compounded with Tenso Jurin, unidirectional attack. Notice that hits controls the environment in TJ...making it harder for Bara to age his attacks. In fact really he could do mostly whatever with Tenso Jurin...he'd still do better than Soi Fail.

As for tousen, LNA can be used with far more ease than Soi's Bankai...and is again...unidirectional. does better.

You already listed Gin, Bya (gokei is unidirectional in the sense all power is directed towards a single point, senkei collapse is too, so is shukei.)

Kenny...mayuri...unohana...and uki, i will say, haven't shown me anything that implies they'll do better, however hana and uki with their lolseniorhype i will trust will do better than Soi...so only mayuri and Kenny are out of the running.

[Cult of Personality]

Originally Posted by Carbon Monoxide

if you paid attention to what i wrote, it was that they'd do better than soi, not that they could win...she failed horribly, some may fail, but most not as horribly.

The Captains I listed are the only ones who could possibly have done better against Baraggan than Soifon did.

her speed "advantage" also doesn't count for jack...considering bara blitzed her once with his speed and then with respira...the only reason she escaped was 'cause he didn't try to catch her...his arrogance prevents him from doing so to others, that is why i say others will do better

Exactly the point. If Soifon's speed advantage over the other captains won't help her, what chance would they have if Baraggan decided to shank them with that axe of his?

Koma; brute force, the Bankai attacks far faster than Koma himself; do a little math, since it has to match all of Koma's movements, and it's bigger...if it's swinging the same arc in the same time, angular velocity is the same, but the linear velocity is...far...far...more, in fact it's as many times more as Koma's bankai is bigger than him. AND all the force is unidirectional

Barry lols at it, takes a nap, reads War and Peace, writes his memoires, and then when he gets bored, dodges at the last possible second just because he can and Respiras Koma's doggy nads off.

As for tousen, LNA can be used with far more ease than Soi's Bankai...and is again...unidirectional. does better.

Barry lols at it, takes a nap, reads The Grapes of Wrath, writes his memoires, and then when he gets bored, dodges at the last possible second just because he can and Respiras Tousen's crickety nads off.

A little math shows that increased torque, increased mass exponentially increases the power of his UNIdirectional attack...and the increased speed makes it harder to age via tdf/respira than anything Bara has shown to stop...plus can be used in rapid rapid succession.

I've saved this for last because it uses a lot of big important words without actually saying anything of value. Anyone can string a few thesaurus words together to make a sentence that makes it sound like you know what you're talking about, but the real trick is actually knowing what you're talking about instead of just sounding like it.

Anyone ever tell you that you're an idiot? Because they really should have.

You seem to be obsessed with hyping the directionality of attacks as if to suggest that if an attack only goes in one direction it will somehow make the users of that attack superior to Soifon.

You might have a point if Baraggan were just going to sit there and try to tank their attacks (then again, you might not. You've already been established to be an idiot, so that casts a shade of doubt over your assessments), but in any fight worth talking about Baraggan would tittystomp them five ways from Sunday and seven ways back.

Because Baraggan may be arrogant, but he doesn't go out of his way to tank attacks when he could just as easily avoid them.

And that's ignoring the fact that here in the Battlegrounds character flaws such as arrogance are not taken into account.

Overall I rate your post a 3 out of 10. You get extra points for access to a thesaurus and legible grammar, and use of the word torque because Torque is the name of a character played by Brad Garrett, whom I love, but the fail far outweighs the good.

P.S. For the sake of intelligent life everywhere, never breed.

P.P.S. Block.

[Carbon Monoxide]

Originally Posted by you

The Captains I listed are the only ones who could possibly have done better against Baraggan than Soifon did.

Originally Posted by you

I can't think of anyone else that could possibly compete with Baraggan.

you're a liar...

Ahahahahaha and you're trying to talk down to me...

Exactly the point. If Soifon's speed advantage over the other captains won't help her, what chance would they have if Baraggan decided to shank them with that axe of his?

first present a scenario in which that is very likely, said character is in range, and the difference between response times of soi and said character is going to be the difference between being vivisected and not...otherwise shut your mouth.

Barry lols at it, takes a nap, reads War and Peace, writes his memoires, and then when he gets bored, dodges at the last possible second just because he can and Respiras Koma's doggy nads off.

I lol'd at you, took a one minute nap, read your post again, guffawed with great gusto, and when I got bored, responded to it with absolute hilarity, and at the last possible second accused you of making up BS in order to suck off of soi's...wait she's a girl.

Barry lols at it, takes a nap, reads The Grapes of Wrath, writes his memoires, and then when he gets bored, dodges at the last possible second just because he can and Respiras Tousen's crickety nads off.

...you're not very smart are you?

I've saved this for last because it uses a lot of big important words without actually saying anything of value. Anyone can string a few thesaurus words together to make a sentence that makes it sound like you know what you're talking about, but the real trick is actually knowing what you're talking about instead of just sounding like it.

so...basically 'cause you can't comprehend it you believed I made all this up? I'm a physic major at an ivy uni, i'm fully qualified to tell you about torque, momentum, force, whatever you wanna call it.

torque = lever arm length * mass * acceleration.

with koma's Bankai all three are much...much much higher. this is obvious to anyone who's brain was bigger than the size of this smily: but apparently yours isn't...so i would suggest you shut your mouth...but i doubt this will ever happen so instead we will continue.

Anyone ever tell you that you're an idiot? Because they really should have.

hahaha you're so funny and witty and i bet everyone is drooling over how smart and courageous you are for trying to...zzzzzzz

You seem to be obsessed with hyping the directionality of attacks as if to suggest that if an attack only goes in one direction it will somehow make the users of that attack superior to Soifon.

no...if you paid attention to what i wrote...again...i told you many many times, all the energy is put in one direction...soi's explosion is put in all directions, by its very nature if you have the same amount of energy put into a unidirectional attack, it will be far stronger than one put in every direction...understand sherlock?

to put it simply, their attacks are far more efficient (and easier to use), so i guess it's superior in that way.

You might have a point if Baraggan were just going to sit there and try to tank their attacks (then again, you might not. You've already been established to be an idiot, so that casts a shade of doubt over your assessments), but in any fight worth talking about Baraggan would tittystomp them five ways from Sunday and seven ways back.

which is what he did against soi...and this goes back to my original statement:

Originally Posted by Me

her speed "advantage" also doesn't count for jack...considering bara blitzed her once with his speed and then with respira...the only reason she escaped was 'cause he didn't try to catch her...his arrogance prevents him from doing so to others, that is why i say others will do better

I think you need to read better.

Because Baraggan may be arrogant, but he doesn't go out of his way to tank attacks when he could just as easily avoid them.

uhhhh...that is exactly what he did to Soi. He saw her climb up the building, shoulder JR, he listened to her speech, watched her fire it...and took it to the face.

And that's ignoring the fact that here in the Battlegrounds character flaws such as arrogance are not taken into account.

lolwtf is this. you really feel the need to try to pull a fallacy on me at this point in the debate?

Originally Posted by SageoftheSixPaths

All contestants are in character.

nice try. Also i don't give a flying fidoodle if you are on my ignore or not...coward...you block people you can't beat in a debate don't you.

[Cult of Personality]

This message is hidden because Carbon Monoxide is on your ignore list.

Faboo.

So anyway, Ulquiorra wins if he starts in Segunda Etapa, otherwise Barry takes it.