NaruSaku vs. NaruHina

[l3thall3g3nd]

Originally Posted by kondouhikari

I didn't say never meets... I said 'rarely' and I didn't say Naruto likes Hinata during chunnin exams... he got to know more about Hinata during chunnin exam. Im stating the possibility of he like Hinata after she tried to save him during Pein. Of course I do not deny the fact that he might still continue to like Sakura. It's actually personal opinion whether you like Naruto to choose Hinata or Sakura. I did'nt say Naruto WILL change his feeling for Sakura, I say MAY. I'm just raising the possibities. Of course Naruto may not change and continue to like Sakura. But Sakura too may not change and continue like Sasuke. I didn't say Naruto SHOULD like Hinata. I only say I PREFER Naruto liking Hinata. I only use 'if' and 'may' throughout the post. Maybe my post is too wordy but I did explain that Naruto MAY like Hinata because she tried to save him from Pein. Sakura infatuation for Sasuke is emphasised in Shippuden but not Naruto infatuation for Sakura. That is there is a POSSIBILITY of Naruto liking Hinata after she tried to rescue him from Pein. That is my opinion. You need not accept it. Be it Hinata Fans or Sakura Fans all based on possibilities that anime hints. I'm just one of Hinata Fans, that's all. I don't deny the possibilities state by Sakura fans because the author has not give a true answer.

I respect your opinion no doubt but why did you in a earlier post that Sakura and naruto don't spend time after missions when she clearly does, also a question to you if your a hinata fan why do you want her to end up with naruto when he really dosn't give her the time off day?

[Night Blade852]

Originally Posted by kondouhikari

Please don't assume all NarutoXHinata fans are all the same... I don't really like to say that Hinata deserve Naruto or Sakura deserve Naruto. I also do not think that Sakura hates Naruto or Naruto hates Sakura. You may like to see Naruto with Sakura but please do not say that NarutoXHinata is totally impossible. Well Sakura may start to like Naruto but who knows Naruto may start to like Hinata. You said Hinata does not interact with Naruto but seriously because she is not main character and that is why she didn't change much from Naruto Series to Naruto Shippuden. I can say that she knew alot about Naruto and Naruto had know her through the Chunnin exams and when she tried to save him from Pein. I admit that Naruto has like Sakura all the while but Sakura has been liking Sasuke all the while. Yes, it is true that Sakura has been spending alot with Naruto but she and Hinata both are separated from Naruto for 2 and half years. Well if you don't accept fillers, Naruto and Sakura don't have much mission together too. Shippuden too only have less than 5 (i think?) Naruto Series mostly Fillers and Hinata has appear in the whole Chunnin exams, which was one of the most important story in the 1st series. Naruto knew about Hinata and Hinata knew about Naruto. Hinata was much braver in Shippuden, and won't faint when she saw Naruto, where she participate in mission to find Sasuke. from the anime or manga series, Sakura only do mission with Naruto and after mission they rarely meets. Hinata is the one who watch Naruto train secretly. She may not have interact with Naruto but she knew Naruto very well too, just like Sakura. Naruto knew Hinata too during the Chunnin Exams. But from what I see, Sakura still loves Sasuke and the confession is just a white lie to stop Naruto chasing after Sasuke. I won't believe Sakura will change easily as she held her infatuation for Sasuke for years. If she suddenly change because Naruto become a hero then it will give a bad impression on her character too. Naruto affection to Sakura only emphasis in Naruto Series but not in Shippuuden. It may be just a kid's infatuation unlike Sakura who loves at first sight, which fades through time. There is still possibility that Naruto starts to like Hinata after she tried to save him. Well, there is a filler saying that Naruto still likes Sakura and will try to make her appreciate him but it is just a filler. It may or may not be the author's idea. It may just be the director's idea. But if NaruXHina is really to happen in manga, there maybe a anime adaption of NaruXSaku since the filler of Naruto saying that he is still trying to make Sakura like him existed which make it difficult for Naruto( in anime) to say he suddenly like Hinata. I prefer Hinata but if Naruto choose Sakura, it is Naruto's bad for not choosing Hinata, who loves him more than anyone else.

Ok, but you do know that NH moments happen 98% of the time in filler right? If it wasn't for fillers, NH wouldn't even exist as a couple.
And I don't disrespect NH fans for their own opinions. I wrote that for the NH/SS fans on Youtube who are driving me insane with those comments.

Kishimoto dosen't go by the animie at all, so I'm not really all that worried about NH becoming cannon...let alone SS. Thus he says he's tired of the NH/SS fans threatening him and bashing on Sakura. So...yeah...

You should read the manga if you're going to use anything against NS fans in this debate. Because like Black Owl said, NO NS supporter should worry about NH actualy becoming cannon, or egrade it. It's actualy impossible to degrade NaruHina any further than it already is. And untill NaruHina fans start pointing out some things actualy worth debating about I'm not gonna worry too much about Naruhina.

No offince, but unless Kishi has some huge gigantic plan for Hinata in the end, NaruHina is as dead as a corpse in a body bag.

[Night Blade852]

Originally Posted by l3thall3g3nd

lol ok so if Sakura won't change her feelings for sasuke what makes you think naruto will change his feelings for sakura? You say sakura has only done 5 missions with naruto in shippuden what has that got to do with anything the only cannon mission I recall hinata done with naruto was when they were looking for sasuke. You say Sakura never spends time with naruto after missions while hinata always watches naruto train right? So when naruto learnt the FRS Sakura was not watching naruto busting his butt, and I I guess I imagined Sakura making food pills for naruto to keep his strength up. What does hinata being involved in the chunnin exams have to do with naruto loving hinata? Ino and ten ten were there as well so I guess naruto loves them to. Im not bashing you buy what you makes no sence to me why naruto loves or should hinata but your entitled to your opinion I'm just pointing the flaws I see and feel free to do the same to my posts.

Couldn't have really said it better myself.

Ok, no offince to any NaruHina fan here at all. but I'm just going to point a few things out.

First off, your shipping fans worldwide have gotten way too far out of controll. I don't even know where to begin in this one...maybe i'll start with the threatening Kishimoto for your pairing. Look, I hate to break this onto you like this, but this makes your pairing look like a bunch of loosers who can't get a life. It's Kishi's story, let him write it how he wants to write it. Threatening the writer of the story you're reading/watching is just hands down stupid and makes you look like an idiot. I'm not saying all NaruHina fans are like this, I have a few web friends who are NaruHina supporters and I don't have a problem with them, but your pairing is really starting to piss a lot of people off. Have you not seen these lame ass excuses on Youtube and all over the web? I'm going to list a few things that have really been pissing me off, along with every other NS supporter or neutral fan off.

1: Hinata has become the main female.
Uhm, you're an idiot my friend. Kishimoto has made it verry clear that Sakura is the main female in the serise. you can keep dreaming on because that will never happen. Kishi has even stated it himself, Hinata's too overrated. (not in those words, but it's pretty much the same meening)

2: It's ok for Naruto to stop loving Sakura, but if you say Hinata should stop loving Naruto this makes you a spawn of Satan.

This is nothing more than a pile of freaking dino sh*t! This excuse is really annoying to a lot of people. I don't even know where to start describing it! It's ok for Naruto to give up on Sakura? pfft, it won't happen to begin with, so dream on.

3: Hinata is way better than Sakura.
How? Just how is she better than Sakura? What has Hinata done that Sakura obviously hasn't, manga wise that is. I'm not using fillers here at all.
Things Sakura has done
1: Healing
2: crying
3: worrying constantly
4: putting herself before him
5: Risking her life for him.
6: Asking Tsunade to train her so she could protect Naruto and wouldn't feel like a burden too him.
7: She confessed her love for him and Kishi has stated he wanted to make Sakura an HONEST GIRL.

There's probably a lot more than that, and you can't deny those.

Now the things Hinata has done.
1: The moments in the Chunin exams
2: Saving his life.
3: confessing her love.

Hmm, I think Sakura might have her a little out numbered on these.

4: Sakura's too violent towards Naruto.
Ok...really? There is a thing called comedy releaf. Seriously, like you guys arent laughing your heads off whenever she punches him and sends him flying too the moon. Plus, she always only does that in fillers. she has only hit him twice in the manga. Thus she's a Tsunderi (have no idea how to spell that) This is supposed to be natural for her to do this to Naruto.

5: Hinata deserves Naruto.
Hinata deserves Naruto, Hinata deserves Naruto, Hinata deserves Naruto, Hinata deserves Naruto. Where are Naruto's feelings in this? Nowhere. Too many NH fans leave Naruto's feelings out of it and only use Hinata's. Just stop. It's getting really annoying!

6: Hinata has loved Naruto throughout the entire story.
So the hell what? Naruto has lved sakura throughout the entire serise. So that ends that argument right there. Naruto is a main character, meening he gets what he wants. Hinata's a side character who has had her time to shine. That's kind of the main reason Side character's are there is to build up tenssion.

7: Sakura loves Sasuke.
This is partly true. She still has feelings for him, but it's increadibly easy to tell she's not happy with herself. Sasuke was her first crush, something you'll never get over no matter what you try. SS fans claim SS will happen. Oh it'll happen alright...maybe when pigs fly, but it'll happen.
Sasuke has completely destroyed any hope for this couple, no matter what some SS/NH fans say. Stop saying Sasuke is Kishi's favorite character, because he's not. Sasuke is Kishi's favorite character to DRAW! Kishi's favorite character is Naruto, because Naruto is a character to which he could relate to. Sasuke...is not Kishi's favorite character.
SS...may as well be confirmed as dead.

8: Naruto needs to be with Hinata because she conessed first.

Just because someone says they love you dosen't mean you have to love them back. What, is Naruto supposed to just drop all feelings for Sakura and go to Hinata? Well, ask yourself this question. Would you drop all feelings for the girl (boy) you've been chasing for years and go to a person you barely even know? I wouldn't think so. So why is Naruto any diffrent from that?

9: Sakura's ugly.

Oh really? Try reading the manga. Sakura is verry pretty and I'd like to see anyone deny this. Hinata just looks flat down creepy in the manga to me. (That's too me! As in IMO!)

10: Kishimoto is a terrible writer if naruto ends up with Sakura.

Get some glasses, re-watch the show, re-read the manga, learn how to actualy write and start your own book story like I have. Too me, Kishi is a terrible writer if he makes NH or SS happen with how little development they have now. Just a thought.

11: Why make hinat's love seem more intense to Naruto than Sakura's?
That was all the animie team. If it wasn't for the fillers, NaruHina wouldn't even exist as a couple. Kishimoto didn't even intend for Hinata to be this heavily supported. He dosen't understand why everyone hates Sakura but loves Hinata. If you were to read the manga and not watch the anime, it's pretty obviouse NH wasn't even intended to be a couple supported as heavy as it is.

Probably going to get bashed for this. But you know what? I honestly don't care. This is nothing but the truth that NH and SS fans are going to have to wake up to sometime eventualy. (No one here on this site, but the major fangirls on Youtube who are the main reason why I even wrote this.)

I've just...had enogh with some of these fans over youtube. Especialy this VJ87G. He...is honestly an A** hole. Bashing NS supporters for their opinion and wishing death on them. Which makes your pairing look even worse.

As of now I'm not aware of a NaruSaku supporter who is like VJ87G to NaruHina or SasuSaku fans. But i'll keep looking around, so far...I haven't found one.

To those who may have gotten offinded, I'm sorry, but I've just had enough and I had to get this out of my system. Bash me in return because I honestly don't care. i'm annoyed to death from these pathetic excuses.

NS fans, you're welcome.

[kondouhikari]

Originally Posted by Night Blade852

Couldn't have really said it better myself.

Ok, no offince to any NaruHina fan here at all. but I'm just going to point a few things out.

First off, your shipping fans worldwide have gotten way too far out of controll. I don't even know where to begin in this one...maybe i'll start with the threatening Kishimoto for your pairing. Look, I hate to break this onto you like this, but this makes your pairing look like a bunch of loosers who can't get a life. It's Kishi's story, let him write it how he wants to write it. Threatening the writer of the story you're reading/watching is just hands down stupid and makes you look like an idiot. I'm not saying all NaruHina fans are like this, I have a few web friends who are NaruHina supporters and I don't have a problem with them, but your pairing is really starting to piss a lot of people off. Have you not seen these lame ass excuses on Youtube and all over the web? I'm going to list a few things that have really been pissing me off, along with every other NS supporter or neutral fan off.

1: Hinata has become the main female.
Uhm, you're an idiot my friend. Kishimoto has made it verry clear that Sakura is the main female in the serise. you can keep dreaming on because that will never happen. Kishi has even stated it himself, Hinata's too overrated. (not in those words, but it's pretty much the same meening)

2: It's ok for Naruto to stop loving Sakura, but if you say Hinata should stop loving Naruto this makes you a spawn of Satan.

This is nothing more than a pile of freaking dino sh*t! This excuse is really annoying to a lot of people. I don't even know where to start describing it! It's ok for Naruto to give up on Sakura? pfft, it won't happen to begin with, so dream on.

3: Hinata is way better than Sakura.
How? Just how is she better than Sakura? What has Hinata done that Sakura obviously hasn't, manga wise that is. I'm not using fillers here at all.
Things Sakura has done
1: Healing
2: crying
3: worrying constantly
4: putting herself before him
5: Risking her life for him.
6: Asking Tsunade to train her so she could protect Naruto and wouldn't feel like a burden too him.
7: She confessed her love for him and Kishi has stated he wanted to make Sakura an HONEST GIRL.

There's probably a lot more than that, and you can't deny those.

Now the things Hinata has done.
1: The moments in the Chunin exams
2: Saving his life.
3: confessing her love.

Hmm, I think Sakura might have her a little out numbered on these.

4: Sakura's too violent towards Naruto.
Ok...really? There is a thing called comedy releaf. Seriously, like you guys arent laughing your heads off whenever she punches him and sends him flying too the moon. Plus, she always only does that in fillers. she has only hit him twice in the manga. Thus she's a Tsunderi (have no idea how to spell that) This is supposed to be natural for her to do this to Naruto.

5: Hinata deserves Naruto.
Hinata deserves Naruto, Hinata deserves Naruto, Hinata deserves Naruto, Hinata deserves Naruto. Where are Naruto's feelings in this? Nowhere. Too many NH fans leave Naruto's feelings out of it and only use Hinata's. Just stop. It's getting really annoying!

6: Hinata has loved Naruto throughout the entire story.
So the hell what? Naruto has lved sakura throughout the entire serise. So that ends that argument right there. Naruto is a main character, meening he gets what he wants. Hinata's a side character who has had her time to shine. That's kind of the main reason Side character's are there is to build up tenssion.

7: Sakura loves Sasuke.
This is partly true. She still has feelings for him, but it's increadibly easy to tell she's not happy with herself. Sasuke was her first crush, something you'll never get over no matter what you try. SS fans claim SS will happen. Oh it'll happen alright...maybe when pigs fly, but it'll happen.
Sasuke has completely destroyed any hope for this couple, no matter what some SS/NH fans say. Stop saying Sasuke is Kishi's favorite character, because he's not. Sasuke is Kishi's favorite character to DRAW! Kishi's favorite character is Naruto, because Naruto is a character to which he could relate to. Sasuke...is not Kishi's favorite character.
SS...may as well be confirmed as dead.

8: Naruto needs to be with Hinata because she conessed first.

Just because someone says they love you dosen't mean you have to love them back. What, is Naruto supposed to just drop all feelings for Sakura and go to Hinata? Well, ask yourself this question. Would you drop all feelings for the girl (boy) you've been chasing for years and go to a person you barely even know? I wouldn't think so. So why is Naruto any diffrent from that?

9: Sakura's ugly.

Oh really? Try reading the manga. Sakura is verry pretty and I'd like to see anyone deny this. Hinata just looks flat down creepy in the manga to me. (That's too me! As in IMO!)

10: Kishimoto is a terrible writer if naruto ends up with Sakura.

Get some glasses, re-watch the show, re-read the manga, learn how to actualy write and start your own book story like I have. Too me, Kishi is a terrible writer if he makes NH or SS happen with how little development they have now. Just a thought.

11: Why make hinat's love seem more intense to Naruto than Sakura's?
That was all the animie team. If it wasn't for the fillers, NaruHina wouldn't even exist as a couple. Kishimoto didn't even intend for Hinata to be this heavily supported. He dosen't understand why everyone hates Sakura but loves Hinata. If you were to read the manga and not watch the anime, it's pretty obviouse NH wasn't even intended to be a couple supported as heavy as it is.

Probably going to get bashed for this. But you know what? I honestly don't care. This is nothing but the truth that NH and SS fans are going to have to wake up to sometime eventualy. (No one here on this site, but the major fangirls on Youtube who are the main reason why I even wrote this.)

I've just...had enogh with some of these fans over youtube. Especialy this VJ87G. He...is honestly an A** hole. Bashing NS supporters for their opinion and wishing death on them. Which makes your pairing look even worse.

As of now I'm not aware of a NaruSaku supporter who is like VJ87G to NaruHina or SasuSaku fans. But i'll keep looking around, so far...I haven't found one.

To those who may have gotten offinded, I'm sorry, but I've just had enough and I had to get this out of my system. Bash me in return because I honestly don't care. i'm annoyed to death from these pathetic excuses.

NS fans, you're welcome.

Sorry but if you are going to ignore fillers, Naruto and Sakura does not have much mission together throughout the series. Maybe hidden behind scenes but there may be POSSIBILITY of Hinata scene being hidden too. NaruXHina may not have existed all awhile but I won't wish the author to change any storyline because of Fan Service. It just my preference to hope Naruto would like Hinata. It does not matter if it is impossible in the anime or the author has no wish of it. It just my opinion.

[kondouhikari]

Originally Posted by l3thall3g3nd

I respect your opinion no doubt but why did you in a earlier post that Sakura and naruto don't spend time after missions when she clearly does, also a question to you if your a hinata fan why do you want her to end up with naruto when he really dosn't give her the time off day?

Just like I said, it was just my opinion. It does not matter if it is impossible in the anime/manga. Even Sakura fans have reasons for liking her but the those reasons are not able to convince Hinata Fans because both side feels differently. Speaking how they feel in such debate will only bring denial of other side, so it's meaningless. I just prefer Hinata, just like NaruXSaku fans like Sakura, no question about it.

[l3thall3g3nd]

Originally Posted by kondouhikari

Sorry but if you are going to ignore fillers, Naruto and Sakura does not have much mission together throughout the series. Maybe hidden behind scenes but there may be POSSIBILITY of Hinata scene being hidden too. NaruXHina may not have existed all awhile but I won't wish the author to change any storyline because of Fan Service. It just my preference to hope Naruto would like Hinata. It does not matter if it is impossible in the anime or the author has no wish of it. It just my opinion.

Ok night blade I no I'm preety new but I take care off this one. Yea ignore but in manga hinata has spent about 80% less time than with naruto than Sakura has that comment to make NH more possible than NS is invalid right there. Since shippuden the only mission hinata has been with naruto is when they tried to rescue sasuke, while Sakura was with naruto when they had there test against kakashi, the rescue garra ark, when they went to tenchi bridge, when naruto learnt the FRS, the fight against kakasu and hidan, when they tried to rescue sasuke, the pain invasion arc hinata and Sakura were both involved. Finally Sakura went after naruto to stop him chasing after sasuke since then the war has happened. So really expect for the war and pain arc Sakura has always been with naruto.

[kondouhikari]

Originally Posted by l3thall3g3nd

Ok night blade I no I'm preety new but I take care off this one. Yea ignore but in manga hinata has spent about 80% less time than with naruto than Sakura has that comment to make NH more possible than NS is invalid right there. Since shippuden the only mission hinata has been with naruto is when they tried to rescue sasuke, while Sakura was with naruto when they had there test against kakashi, the rescue garra ark, when they went to tenchi bridge, when naruto learnt the FRS, the fight against kakasu and hidan, when they tried to rescue sasuke, the pain invasion arc hinata and Sakura were both involved. Finally Sakura went after naruto to stop him chasing after sasuke since then the war has happened. So really expect for the war and pain arc Sakura has always been with naruto.

I admit that Sakura spend more time with Naruto than Hinata with Naruto, but this does not really matters since Sakura loves at first sight is so strong (happens even when she didn't spend time with sasuke before academy), Ino too, likes Sasuke till Shippuden (didnt spend time with Sasuke like years?). Spending time together is not a factor in Naruto Series. I don't think that NaruXSaku is invalid. I think it is possible to have NaruXSaku but there is still a POSSIBILITY of Naruto starting to like Hinata after Hinata tried to save him from Pein.

[kondouhikari]

Originally Posted by l3thall3g3nd

You say Sakura never spends time with naruto after missions while hinata always watches naruto train right? So when naruto learnt the FRS Sakura was not watching naruto busting his butt, and I I guess I imagined Sakura making food pills for naruto to keep his strength up.

I'm just browsing through the manga and found that Sakura making food pills for Naruto is a FILLER! She didn't watch him from behind too. You can double check in case I miss it out. So if you don't take fillers into consideration, Sakura rarely or don't really meets Naruto after mission.During Naruto's training of FRS in MANGA, Sakura was crying looking at team 7 photos, must be thinking of Sasuke.

[kondouhikari]

Originally Posted by Night Blade852

Kishimoto dosen't go by the animie at all, so I'm not really all that worried about NH becoming cannon...let alone SS. Thus he says he's tired of the NH/SS fans threatening him and bashing on Sakura. So...yeah...

I'm sorry but please tell me where did you get the source from? And not all fans threaten him to change his story, hope you can give a more fair judgement on the NaruXHina fans.

[katsu uchiha]

@kondouhikari Why would Naruto fall in love with Hinata at the drop of a hat just because as you said "she tried to save him from Pein"?

Key word there. Tried. She tried yes but did she succeed? NO! She failed! Getting her butt kicked by Pein when it could have been avoided by her not dashing in. Naruto was clear before he begin his fight that he didn't want anyone gettin involved in the fight because he didn't want to worry about them while fighing Pein and the Six Paths.

Hinata only "tried saving him" once! How many times has Naruto and Sakura put their lives on the line to protect each other? More than once I can tell you that much!

Naruto loves Sakura and his love for her is unconditional. He's proven that over the course of the series. 'Nuff said about that. Naruto wouldn't just start liking someone he barely knows and drop all feelings for a girl he's loved over the entire series thus far. It's not in Naruto's character to do that. It's OOC and any good writer keeps their characters IN character. Not out of character.

Spending time together does count. A relationship needs development. That is what NH and SS lacks. It's what NS has a lot of and their relationship, Naruto and Sakura's have been in development for the entire series thus far. NH and SS might as well be dead with the lack of development and mulitple murder attempts on the SS side of things. NS still is the closest to canon for reasons I have explained above.

[l3thall3g3nd]

Originally Posted by kondouhikari

I admit that Sakura spend more time with Naruto than Hinata with Naruto, but this does not really matters since Sakura loves at first sight is so strong (happens even when she didn't spend time with sasuke before academy), Ino too, likes Sasuke till Shippuden (didnt spend time with Sasuke like years?). Spending time together is not a factor in Naruto Series. I don't think that NaruXSaku is invalid. I think it is possible to have NaruXSaku but there is still a POSSIBILITY of Naruto starting to like Hinata after Hinata tried to save him from Pein.

At at time I was catching up in anime so I didn't it was filler but Sakura has still spent more time with naruto than hinata has in shippuden.

[Night Blade852]

Originally Posted by katsu uchiha

@kondouhikari Why would Naruto fall in love with Hinata at the drop of a hat just because as you said "she tried to save him from Pein"?

Key word there. Tried. She tried yes but did she succeed? NO! She failed! Getting her butt kicked by Pein when it could have been avoided by her not dashing in. Naruto was clear before he begin his fight that he didn't want anyone gettin involved in the fight because he didn't want to worry about them while fighing Pein and the Six Paths.

Hinata only "tried saving him" once! How many times has Naruto and Sakura put their lives on the line to protect each other? More than once I can tell you that much!

Naruto loves Sakura and his love for her is unconditional. He's proven that over the course of the series. 'Nuff said about that. Naruto wouldn't just start liking someone he barely knows and drop all feelings for a girl he's loved over the entire series thus far. It's not in Naruto's character to do that. It's OOC and any good writer keeps their characters IN character. Not out of character.

Spending time together does count. A relationship needs development. That is what NH and SS lacks. It's what NS has a lot of and their relationship, Naruto and Sakura's have been in development for the entire series thus far. NH and SS might as well be dead with the lack of development and mulitple murder attempts on the SS side of things. NS still is the closest to canon for reasons I have explained above.

Yeah, and wasn't that episode like...99% filler? Because if I recall right, Hinata was completely annialated in the manga, where as in the animie she got up 3 or 4 times. I can understand trying to make the episode longer, but Perriot is really pushing it with the animie.

[ChibiAsh]

I just wanted to respond to this "they have to please the majority" argument. I don't know where that is coming from, but that's so far off base.

First of all, is NH even popular in Japan, where the manga and anime is most popular? I've heard it's not anywhere near as popular as it is in the U.S.

Second of all, as someone who has seen a lot of anime and read a lot, I can tell you writers will do whatever the hell they want and what they intended to do from the beginning no matter what people think.

Kishi never intended for NH to become a popular pairing, that much is clear from his interviews. And from the lack of development, but I guess that's not enough to convince people.


In every anime/manga with some romance there's always love interests that are one sided from beginning to end. That's NH and SS in this case. Animes/mangas all have different plots, characters, themes, etc. but usually the romance follows pretty similar patterns.

I also don't like this "well the manga's not over so anything could happen, it's Kishi's story" thing that I see people say. So what? At this point you should be able to get a good idea of where the story is headed, that's what the writing is for. This far into the story the development has occured and the road map is laid out, they just have to get to the destination. Kishi will not at the last second veer of the path he's planned after years of his life being put into this.

And it's not like Naruto is torn between Hinata and Sakura. There is no choice to be made. Sakura is the one Naruto loves, period. Naruto does not have feelings for Hinata and that should have been clear (if it wasn't already from the lack of even a single moment of development until the confession in Shippuuden) when he didn't respond to Hinata's confession in any way.

[KyuubiKid]

srry but hinata has a bigger chance then sakura-baka anyway remeber not even sasuke almost killing her if it wasnt for naruto changed her mind

[KyuubiKid]

i wonder how kisimoto will handle things like this anyway he might even end naruto without anypairing anyway since the battle between naruto and madaara is already going on maybe itll end the show soon i hope not

[Mizukage]

I doubt it'll end soon. Kishi doesn't put in years of effort to just end abruptly. But I agree about him possibly not pairing either of them.

I feel like hinaya "deserves" to date naruto but shes less likely to because she is so passive.

[KyuubiKid]

i love the pairing naruhina cuz shes what naruto needs a nice caring person but kishi also loves with us so itll probally have no pairings or someone no one knows or remebers

[kondouhikari]

Originally Posted by katsu uchiha

@kondouhikari Why would Naruto fall in love with Hinata at the drop of a hat just because as you said "she tried to save him from Pein"?

Key word there. Tried. She tried yes but did she succeed? NO! She failed! Getting her butt kicked by Pein when it could have been avoided by her not dashing in. Naruto was clear before he begin his fight that he didn't want anyone gettin involved in the fight because he didn't want to worry about them while fighing Pein and the Six Paths.

Hinata only "tried saving him" once! How many times has Naruto and Sakura put their lives on the line to protect each other? More than once I can tell you that much!

Naruto loves Sakura and his love for her is unconditional. He's proven that over the course of the series. 'Nuff said about that. Naruto wouldn't just start liking someone he barely knows and drop all feelings for a girl he's loved over the entire series thus far. It's not in Naruto's character to do that. It's OOC and any good writer keeps their characters IN character. Not out of character.

Spending time together does count. A relationship needs development. That is what NH and SS lacks. It's what NS has a lot of and their relationship, Naruto and Sakura's have been in development for the entire series thus far. NH and SS might as well be dead with the lack of development and mulitple murder attempts on the SS side of things. NS still is the closest to canon for reasons I have explained above.

Did I say that Naruto fall in love with Hinata immediately and marry her after she tried to save him? NO! I said that Naruto start to LIKE her, having a good impression of her. Just like Kushina start to like Minato after he saved her, it MAY be the same for Naruto and Hinata. For course if you want to relate to REAL LIFE, every relationship starts with a good impression. Hinata and Naruto can always start to spend time together and improve their relationship after that.
( If you are going to rebuke this point by telling me that Naruto and Sakura start improving their relationship FIRST, please don't because when other NaruXHina fans said that Hinata fall in love with Naruto first and that's why Naruto should choose her, NaruXSaku Fans scolded them that it is not about being first in relationship. If you tried to use this point, you are no different from those NaruXHina fans.)

You said that Hinata FAILED to save Naruto so she don't deserve Naruto's love? Ok. For example, if you are going to stabbed by someone and a girl who like you took the knife for you and fainted. But in the end, you also almost died from the murderer. When you survived, you told the girl that she does not deserve your love because she FAILED to protect you. (Are you human?)

In the episode where Hinata tried to save Naruto, I can feel the despair of a girl trying to protect her love one from dying. But I can feel none of such feeling from Sakura who just stood there and watch.( Please don't rebuke this point telling me that you don't have such feeling, the POINT IS I HAVE!)

I read from previous NaruXSaku fans of WHY Sakura didn't go to protect Naruto from Pein is that she is a medical ninja and she has the role of protecting injured ones, thus she has to remain alive. However, this is not real life world. Naruto world has their own system. If you want to relate real life into Naruto, then there are three points to take note.

1. There is no injured people around her. Even if there is, tsunade's slug is healing them. NOT HER.

2.It's Naruto who needs her rescue in that situation.

3. Relating to reallife, in war, one cannot kill a medic. If Sakura charged down to save Naruto, PEIN CAN'T KILL HER. (according to their theory)


You said that Naruto and Sakura have spent alot of time together throughout the series. However, you are just taking the NUMBER OF CHAPTERS she appear. If go according to their world, they have only just a small amount of time spent together since Sakura SERIOUSLY RARELY spend time with Naruto AFTER mission. In Naruto series, Sakura only spend time with Naruto in Zabuza arc. (at most 2-3week?) Then Chunnin Exam starts. They spend time in the Forest of Death(120hr=5days), during the Preliminary round (where she is an audience, not spending time with Naruto), NAruto went learning from Jiraiya. (No time spend with Sakura) Last round of Chunnin Exam, Sakura is an audience, not spending time with Naruto. Naruto fought gaara, trying to save Sakura... ( a few hours?)
Till Itachi VS Kakashi and Itachi VS Jiraiya, No Sakura at all. Naruto then left to learn Rasengan. ( NO Sakura.) Came back, Sasuke tried to challenge Naruto and Sakura tried to stop them. ( Few minutes maybe?)
Then Sasuke retrieval arc. Sakura begged Naruto to take back Sasuke. (Few seconds?) Then saying sorry to Naruto after Naruto failed... (Few minutes). Naruto left for 2 and a half years. (NO SAKURA AT ALL)

END OF NARUTO SERIES

TO SHIPPUUDEN:
In Gaara mission, about 10 to 15 days (maybe? including travelling). Tenchi bridge arc, maybe 1 month at most ( including travelling). Then Naruto learns Rasen-Shuriken. (NO SAKURA AT ALL, since food pills are FILLERS). Kakuza arc, mission to help kakashi. (Few hours?) Searching Sasuke arc, Sakura split away from Naruto while Hinata teamed with Naruto. During their search, Sasuke battle Deidara, Jiraiya battle Pein, Sasuke battle Itachi. Naruto search team battled Tobi together. (No count)

After that Naruto left to train for Sage Mode. ( No Sakura). Came back to save Konoha. Sakura watches him, no time spent. After Pein attack, they talked about something( i forgot) when the cloud ninja came fight them. ( 1 Day probably) Then Naruto left for Iron country. ( No Sakura) Sakura came meet Naruto in Iron country to confess and angered Naruto.( Few minutes). Naruto saved Sakura from Sasuke's Kunai and return to Konoha. (Few days before reaching Konoha?)

THen Naruto left for Lightning Country. ( NO Sakura) Then War happens.

Now, compiling all the time Sakura ACTUALLY spend with Naruto, about 2 AND A HALF MONTHS! (IF YOU ARE NOT CONSIDERING FILLERS) Furthermore most of the time is spent doing MISSION. So where is LONG TIME TOGETHER of Naruto and Sakura you stated? Yes, 99% of Hinata appearance in anime is fillers. However, can 2 and a half months of Naruto and Sakura breed love even though they are doing mission? There is no long time spent like you said in Naruto and Sakura have. Doing mission does not means dating too. There is still POSSIBILITY of Hinata getting together with Naruto.
NaruXSaku fans likes to say that the Author have no intention of NaruXHina. It is pointless to take in how the author thinks (Since he haven't even end the manga series). Please take evidence from anime and state your own opinion. USE THE AUTHOR'S POINT OF VIEW ONLY IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.

[Night Blade852]

Originally Posted by KyuubiKid

srry but hinata has a bigger chance then sakura-baka anyway remeber not even sasuke almost killing her if it wasnt for naruto changed her mind

Ok, you obviously didn't read the posts at all. How in the worl does Hinata have a better chance than Sakura? Because she confessed? Yeah, well it's not going to happen at all. Hinata may love Naruto, but he dosen't care about her like that. Re-read what Chibi Ash said. Kishi dosen't give a crap about NaruHina! NH is only big in America, a country that Kishi dosen't care about. Everywhere else has a SS relationship prefured. Then it's a NS. NH, is over with. And SS...i'm not even going to bother. It seems to me that Kishi is a pro NaruSaku person. But maybe that's just me.

[bluemiracle]

@ kondouhikari - very...well....said.

NS fans like to assume everything, including the actual ending of the story. All I can say is that they are risking being REALLY upset with the ending of the story...entirely because of their stubbornness. I just hope they don't flame Kishi in the end