Naruto vs Luffy

[Devils Lawyer]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

And this is why Silver Surfer is considered equal to Frieza in Vs forum because his combat speed is apparently alot more inconsistent.

I don't know about all that. Silver surfer can pretty much be on the other side of the galaxy before frieza even blinks.

[Ultimate combatant]

Originally Posted by Cult of Personality

I vote for Luffy because unlike Naruto he's a good person and the good guys always win. Well known fact.

I`d say Naruto is a better person. Sure, he can be naughty sometimes, but overall I think he`s a better person!!!

[Cult of Personality]

And you'd be wrong.

[Schnarf]

Originally Posted by Cult of Personality

I vote for Luffy because unlike Naruto he's a good person and the good guys always win. Well known fact.

Are you serious? How isn't Naruto a good person?

[Cult of Personality]

Among other faults, he is selfish, self-centered, arrogant and pig-headed.

He would side with a known terrorist(Sasuke) over the people said terrorist tried to kill(Kumogakure), convincing himself that Sasuke is just misunderstood.

[Wooster]

But Luffy is like a swarm of locusts. He eats the entire food stock of any country he happens upon.

[Cult of Personality]

They give unto their hero generously and never at the cost of their own wellbeing.

[Wooster]

What about the land talking sushi? Seems like they gave too much.

[321zigzag3]

Luffy's so called eating problem is not much of a huge deal considering so many characters have that thing.

Minus Ichigo of course.

[Cult of Personality]

The what now? Land of talking sushi? Must've been anime only...

[Schnarf]

Naruto loves the Leaf. Just because he can't abandon a friend doesn't make him a bad person.

[Cult of Personality]

So naive. tsktsk

[321zigzag3]

Naruto loves Sasuke even more than the leaf. But it also goes with his "not going back to my promise" character.

It shows how extreme it can get even to the most unhealthy levels and blah blah blah etc.

[Devils Lawyer]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Naruto loves Sasuke even more than the leaf. But it also goes with his "not going back to my promise" character.

It shows how extreme it can get even to the most unhealthy levels and blah blah blah etc.

I mean really would you realistically give up on the only individual as a child who didn't spit on your face. Lets face it Naruto had a just as [insert word] childhood. Not only was he an orphan he got harrassed, abused, and all around treated like [insert word]. That is the type of enviroment serial killers are born in. His borderline homo tendencies toward Sasuke are the least result from that up bringing. Me personally I am pretty sure a columbine is in order.

[321zigzag3]

Iruka never spit on him. But Sasuke has that similar same age vibe too.

Here is my say. I understand why Naruto is doing in the end but Kishimoto could have done it better but thats my opinion.

Yes I know it shows Naruto supposed to be on the flawed human beings etc etc.

Anyway.........

[Devils Lawyer]

Iruka didn't necessarily like him either in the beginning. It took major bonding and self revelation.

It definetly could have been done better. Hence why if Kishi ever makes another story he needs to work on his storytelling. But if you get the overall picuture of how he was treated he realistically should be the villain.

But anyways not important. I just like to point outthe fact people have been killed for less.

[321zigzag3]

Like that hyperventilating incident.

Yes its suppose to show Naruto more human and flawed and the consequences of the realization that he can't just bring back Sasuke what he imagined too.

But many of us don't get that reaction.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Vashe

yeah i get what you mean... but we can't resort to speculation... to some degree we always resort to some sort of quantification... FTL>>>lightspeed>>>nearlightspeed>>>relativistic>> >massively hypersonic>>>hypersonic>>>>supersonic>>>>sonic>>>> sub-sonic... the number may not be exact but we all know that a vague unquantified quality has a marginal limit that puts it above something else... a totally unknown quality is totally unusable... if someone says character X beats the flash... and character X has unknown speed, when asked for proof of how he beats the flash, he will get debunked...
as for the people who reject multi-verse match-ups, i would suggest to them to not participate in those kinds of threads...

dont even bother trying to label everything such as speed, labels are just that, dont confine your mind to the cage that is labels

just observe how the characters are portrayed in the canon sources



also current naruto, as with the verse itself, seems to match up better with a verse of one pieces 'composition' as with its 'combat' and the like as they are both verses of physical beings on said plane (although naruto as a verse has more haxx abilities in comparison to one piece); poster earlier in this thread mentioned current naruto "soloing bleach"......



really thoj, dont bother getting so 'specific', it doesnt work anyways

[Vashe]

Originally Posted by colorles

dont even bother trying to label everything such as speed, labels are just that, dont confine your mind to the cage that is labels

just observe how the characters are portrayed in the canon sources

also current naruto, as with the verse itself, seems to match up better with a verse of one pieces 'composition' as with its 'combat' and the like as they are both verses of physical beings on said plane (although naruto as a verse has more haxx abilities in comparison to one piece); poster earlier in this thread mentioned current naruto "soloing bleach"......

really thoj, dont bother getting so 'specific', it doesnt work anyways

thank you for the very important insight... i'm sure you are a very reputable member here whose word is standard and should be observed... though like i said, those who keep rejecting multi-verse comparisons/battles would be tediously dull-witted to participate in something that he does not subscribe to...