Bg Convo #31- Leave your butthurt at the door

[Shikamaru Nara]

Epic Mike is only good because of his experience. I won't bad mouth him, however, since I've never debated with him

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

I have an Narutofan account I havent posted in the longest time though. Personally I think the people who are respected in the OBD like Endless Mike are very overrated in terms of their skill but maybe its just me. Everyone acts like theyre the best which makes me wonder.

& anyway I find the BG here less boring than OBD, people here are OK but maybe I will see more 'boring' when I post more.

EM is hardly overrated I've debated against some of the best out there on many different forums and He's good

but he'll attack you and he wont be friendly about it

[colorles]

well 'vs debating' is pretty much just

1) knowledge of verses

2) savvy wit

[colorles]

or is it 'persistence'?

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by colorles

regardless of whether their 'overrated' or not, at least they have some members that are fairly experienced in the 'workings' of vs debating and its 'history'

said 'workings' not all agree upon, i geus you could say i 'come from' (as some may say) a forum of a 'different feather' in regards to these so called 'workings', but still whats the point of 'calling them out'

Their knowledge is pretty good but when it comes to debating eh. Theyre all the same the only difference is they know what happened in a few comics a little better than the other guy. And when someone says "you moron give me feats" then they can actually link them more often than other people,(though it wasnt the case with me).

I debated with Endless Mike & some others when I posted and as I said theyre all the same, flamed just like the others and gave pretty much no scans and the usual. The thread ended in a bunch of posters(clearly butthurt ) typing about how I was an idiot for 2-3 pages before dying but it was still the most fun debate I think i've ever had.

I still find Viz more exciting and fun overall though :D especially when someone made an account on NF called like "n1ghtm4r3 l00fy" or osmething like that and posted my Narutoverse thead lol.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Their knowledge is pretty good but when it comes to debating eh. Theyre all the same the only difference is they know what happened in a few comics a little better than the other guy. And when someone says "you moron give me feats" then they can actually link them more often than other people,(though it wasnt the case with me).

I debated with Endless Mike & some others when I posted and as I said theyre all the same, flamed just like the others and gave pretty much no scans and the usual. The thread ended in a bunch of posters(clearly butthurt ) typing about how I was an idiot for 2-3 pages before dying but it was still the most fun debate I think i've ever had.

I still find Viz more exciting and fun overall though :D especially when someone made an account on NF called like "n1ghtm4r3 l00fy" or osmething like that and posted my Narutoverse thead lol.

well 'vs debating' hardly requiers 'vast knowledge' of verse anyways, as pretty much only a 'few handfuls' of verses are 'debated' most of the time, and this applies to pretty much all vs forums, whether in the 'clear' or the 'depths', although it still varies some

as a 'neutral' i am obliged not to slander varios forums and the like, however do not limit yourself to 'OBD' and its assessed 'mentality', theirs more than plenty of forums and the like out their anyways




by the way if your interested in a very active vs forum (amounst so much else), lounge.moviecodec.com a kool place ta start, just search 'vs forum'

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Their knowledge is pretty good but when it comes to debating eh. Theyre all the same the only difference is they know what happened in a few comics a little better than the other guy. And when someone says "you moron give me feats" then they can actually link them more often than other people,(though it wasnt the case with me).

you act like this isn't a rare thing

I'm currently..locked in a debate where some one just compared the works of Masashi Kishimoto to freaking J.R.R tolkien George Lucas and the friggen Homeric legends

I'm not sure if you're a literature buff but that's insane..this type of comparison does not exist on the OBD or on SDN or CBR or SHC unless it's a troll making said comparison and no one is gonna agree to that.

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

I debated with Endless Mike & some others when I posted and as I said theyre all the same, flamed just like the others and gave pretty much no scans and the usual. The thread ended in a bunch of posters(clearly butthurt ) typing about how I was an idiot for 2-3 pages before dying but it was still the most fun debate I think i've ever had.

if you made a claim comparable to the claims you made before..their reaction is entirely expected i'm not sure you realize how far you've come as a debater since then

if you got viciously attacked now..it'd be screwed up your growing a poster you still gotta lot to learn and that should be tolerated you have earned the right for people to take the time to explain stuff to you now but before?

and that's what you need to realize Viz is very PG and PC..the OBD is much like SDN and CBR.. when you make outrageous claims they're going to make you improve if they have to beat the knowledge into you..or they'll break you

the big deal forums rarely have a middle ground most of us have been doing it for so long..that we've lost the patience for a middle ground

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

I still find Viz more exciting and fun overall though :D especially when someone made an account on NF called like "n1ghtm4r3 l00fy" or osmething like that and posted my Narutoverse thead lol.

I remember that

Originally Posted by colorles

well 'vs debating' is pretty much just

1) knowledge of verses

2) savvy wit

knowledge of precedent..house rules and consistent character history is more important I'd say

you need to know the ins and outs of the universe..the fourth wall writer drama and a million other factors

edit stay from moviecodec NL..unless you want a site that's totally okay with people creating fake profiles of posters that have defeated them in debates..or that raid forums to post child porn when their views are destroyed.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by colorles

well 'vs debating' hardly requiers 'vast knowledge' of verse anyways, as pretty much only a 'few handfuls' of verses are 'debated' most of the time, and this applies to pretty much all vs forums, whether in the 'clear' or the 'depths', although it still varies some

as a 'neutral' i am obliged not to slander varios forums and the like, however do not limit yourself to 'OBD' and its assessed 'mentality', theirs more than plenty of forums and the like out their anyways

by the way if your interested in a very active vs forum (amounst so much else), lounge.moviecodec.com a kool place ta start, just search 'vs forum'

Yep, well I was going to post in MVC but I never had the time. I know about it though Ill join some time.

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

you act like this isn't a rare thing

I'm currently..locked in a debate where some one just compared the works of Masashi Kishimoto to freaking J.R.R tolkien George Lucas and the friggen Homeric legends

I'm not sure if you're a literature buff but that's insane..this type of comparison does not exist on the OBD or on SDN or CBR or SHC unless it's a troll making said comparison and no one is gonna agree to that.

lol

if you made a claim comparable to the claims you made before..their reaction is entirely expected i'm not sure you realize how far you've come as a debater since then

Nope its not like that, it really was pretty ridiculous. but it was expected anyway. Its not like they knew who I was or had any way to tell I was me even if they heard about "NL" from viz.

if you got viciously attacked now..it'd be screwed up your growing a poster you still gotta lot to learn and that should be tolerated you have earned the right for people to take the time to explain stuff to you now but before?

Well I expected that post to come out sounding butthurt but things went better than expected As I said its not like that though so no worries.

and that's what you need to realize Viz is very PG and PC..the OBD is much like SDN and CBR.. when you make outrageous claims they're going to make you improve if they have to beat the knowledge into you..or they'll break you

the big deal forums rarely have a middle ground most of us have been doing it for so long..that we've lost the patience for a middle ground

Ha well of course, dont know why. I just find the OBD more boring because Ive actually seen people admit they were wrong here and not care so damn much like you should be, & it seems like itd never happen in OBD.

I remember that

Yes and I remember I Pmed V-valentine when it happened because I heard I apparently posted in NF. I didnt post in NF obviously so I asked what Viz was talking about and I was laughed at like I knew what was going on and some Viz members acted as if I was a kidder because they already talked to "me" on NF. lol it did give me some laughs.

knowledge of precedent..house rules and consistent character history is more important I'd say

you need to know the ins and outs of the universe..the fourth wall writer drama and a million other factors

edit stay from moviecodec NL..unless you want a site that's totally okay with people creating fake profiles of posters that have defeated them in debates..or that raid forums to post child porn when their views are destroyed.

Dont worry I know about MVC so I'd be ok. Especially if, well I cant say for sure what verses they think are powerful since I dont go there so I cant comment on it but i'll at least lurk around there. :P

[Devils Lawyer]

Time to put the defilbrillator on this place againe.

Spoiler:

[Super Sanin 3]

There any reason I can't log onto NF of all sites?

[Nightmare Luffy]

Well I just checked and its working for me now. Maybe it fixed for you but you posted that awhile ago it might been down or something.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

yup...looks good

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Screw the Hobbit, Bat's down for 2012.

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[Devils Lawyer]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

yup...looks good

Read the books saw the movies and still think hobbits are gay.

[Devils Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Devils Lawyer

Read the books saw the movies and still think hobbits are gay.

Originally Posted by Vatanui AKA Pride

Screw the Hobbit, Bat's down for 2012.

YouTube:

Pretty sure he is going to get his spine broke.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Vatanui AKA Pride

Screw the Hobbit, Bat's down for 2012.

YouTube:

my dislike of Nolan and his rendition of Batman precludes me from thinking a bald dude dressed up like he got picked off a mad max convention and is doing a bad Sean Connery impression is going to somehow be movie of the year.

I'm betting on avengers or Hobbit

Originally Posted by Devils Lawyer

Read the books saw the movies and still think hobbits are gay.

they suck..it's everything else around them that rocks

although I gotta admit i LOL'd at how utterly redneck they are..seeing as Satan had to resort to tempting Sam Gamgee with "I'll make your garden prettier and your potatoes richer"..to get him to nearly fall to the ring

[TheBlackChidori]

Why don't you like Nolan's Batman? I think he did a much better job than Tim Burton, and that's saying ALOT.

[Devils Lawyer]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

they suck..it's everything else around them that rocks

although I gotta admit i LOL'd at how utterly redneck they are..seeing as Satan had to resort to tempting Sam Gamgee with "I'll make your garden prettier and your potatoes richer"..to get him to nearly fall to the ring

They are so bordeline homo tendencies takes away from the story. I was actually rooting for the crackhead in the movie. Now that there is a character. My precious he knew what he want and was going to get it by any means possible.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by TheBlackChidori

Why don't you like Nolan's Batman? I think he did a much better job than Tim Burton, and that's saying ALOT.

huh? Burton did a fantastic job..don't confuse the monstrosities that became forever and Batman and Robin with Burtons work

as for my gripe I dislike what he did with Joker heavily being that i grew up on Frank millers work and legends of the dark knight as well as Hamil Joker and Jacks..it pissed me off aside from that...Bale and his voice can go shove it.

not that everything Nolan did was bad, Rhas was cool different not very Rhas but it was still cool I liked Jim Gordon and Harvey Dent I also really enjoyed his rendition of Alfred but dark knight..really let me down in the joker realm and the batman himself

Originally Posted by Devils Lawyer

They are so bordeline homo tendencies takes away from the story. I was actually rooting for the crackhead in the movie. Now that there is a character. My precious he knew what he want and was going to get it by any means possible.

Andy Serkis did the character so well because IIRC the guy really did have a crippling addiction to Heroine or blow or Crack I forget which but he was basically just channeling his junky days

Golem was supposedly based off allot of Tolkiens WW1 buddies who got addicted to morphine and Cocaine after said war

[Devils Lawyer]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

huh? Burton did a fantastic job..don't confuse the monstrosities that became forever and Batman and Robin with Burtons work

as for my gripe I dislike what he did with Joker heavily being that i grew up on Frank millers work and legends of the dark knight as well as Hamil Joker and Jacks..it pissed me off aside from that...Bale and his voice can go shove it.

not that everything Nolan did was bad, Rhas was cool different not very Rhas but it was still cool I liked Jim Gordon and Harvey Dent I also really enjoyed his rendition of Alfred but dark knight..really let me down in the joker realm and the batman himself

What the joker was epic. Alot more so than most movie villains in most movies. You my friend just spoke blasephemy.

Andy Serkis did the character so well because IIRC the guy really did have a crippling addiction to Heroine or blow or Crack I forget which but he was basically just channeling his junky days

Golem was supposedly based off allot of Tolkiens WW1 buddies who got addicted to morphine and Cocaine after said war

It was quite a good distraction from the lame ass duo. I was actually rooting for Sauron to catch them.