Spoiler Sharingan can control all of the beasts

[JazzJunkie4]

As of chapter 567 we have seen tobi subdue the 5 tails with his sharingan. I'm pretty much going to assume that the sharingan can control all the other tailed beasts if it can subdue the five tails and ninetails. Not only that, but we have seen tobi bring out two other (forgot which ones) bijuu from their hosts just like the ninetails. So I guess the sharingan really can control all tailed beasts as many of us have predicted.

Also tobi acknowledged kakashi's speculation as correct after he assumed that madara was controlling the bijju powers with his eyes.

For those of you who don't realize what I am getting at, this means that the sharingan DID come from the juubi's chakra and is probably a mutation of the rinnegan and juubi chakra passed down over time.

[Maruko]

He isn't actually controlling the real beasts,only ET Jinchurikis with their powers,controlling real beasts with eyes would be impossible in my opinion.
Imagine the chakra,controlling one beast is possbile,but more of them? I don't think so,look at Naruto's struggle to control Kyuubi and go RS mode,now imagine using your eyes to controll chakra couple of times stronger.

[JazzJunkie4]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Maruko

He isn't actually controlling the real beasts,only ET Jinchurikis with their powers,controlling real beasts with eyes would be impossible in my opinion.
Imagine the chakra,controlling one beast is possbile,but more of them? I don't think so,look at Naruto's struggle to control Kyuubi and go RS mode,now imagine using your eyes to controll chakra couple of times stronger.

Kakashi just speculated that tobi was using his eyes to control the beasts and tobi acknowledged the speculation as correct. Plus we saw the sharingan in the 5 tails eye when tobi subdued him which follows the same pattern we have seen thus far in controlling the beasts with the sharingan. So he is controlling the bijuu powers with his eyes, but he is probably controlling the jinchurikee movements with the rods.

[Maruko]

Yeah,you are probably right.
But what kind of chakra is that? Controlling 6 beasts in the same time?
Super Saiyan 23891238

[JazzJunkie4]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Maruko

Yeah,you are probably right.
But what kind of chakra is that? Controlling 6 beasts in the same time?
Super Saiyan 23891238

It's not even super saiyan 1. Super saiyan 1 alone would be like a hundred SSPs (gotta give goku some props).

[Maruko]

Originally Posted by JazzJunkie4

It's not even super saiyan 1. Super saiyan 1 alone would be like a hundred SSPs (gotta give goku some props).

Hm,Goku would solo Akatsuki with his stick.

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

^ true .

But, as you saw, that Bijuu almost killed Tobi, it means it wasn't completely under the control of Tobi. And maybe the Sharingan can control all the beasts, but the way Tobi is controlling them is by controlling his own Paths / ET's , basically the Jinchuriki .

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

Looked like tobi was using chains too

[JazzJunkie4]

Originally Posted by Kakashi Hatake_Daphne Lu

Looked like tobi was using chains too

looked like chakra chains to me (like kushina's chakra when it chained the kyubi.... DUN DUN DUN).

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

ya. exactly

..and kakashi is so smart~~~~~~~~~~~~

i wonder how long will tobi last, since it does take lots of chakra to control the bijuu/jinchuuriki..

[Maruko]

It's so awesome how Kakashi looks so calm and badass even when he's facing someone as mighty as Tobi!
True NINJA!

[Phariah824]

i don't believe he is controlling them w/ Sharringan. Kakashi says he is using his eye powers. it could be the same as Nagato controling w/ the chakra rods. it is still using eye powers. we see the 1 et jinkuuri break free a moment while in full tail mode. he then is reduced to chakra cloak mode w/ chakra chains. the fact that it had its chakra reduced to bring it back under control makes me believe it is the rinnegan chakra rods controlling it.

[JazzJunkie4]

Originally Posted by Phariah824

i don't believe he is controlling them w/ Sharringan. Kakashi says he is using his eye powers. it could be the same as Nagato controling w/ the chakra rods. it is still using eye powers. we see the 1 et jinkuuri break free a moment while in full tail mode. he then is reduced to chakra cloak mode w/ chakra chains. the fact that it had its chakra reduced to bring it back under control makes me believe it is the rinnegan chakra rods controlling it.

But we saw the sharingan in the 5 tails eye, so he is using the sharingan to control the bijju's power. However, he is probably using the rinnegan to control the jinchurikees movements and such.

[Sagepain]

Originally Posted by JazzJunkie4

looked like chakra chains to me (like kushina's chakra when it chained the kyubi.... DUN DUN DUN).

What if the chakra chains are how Hashirama Controlled the tailed beasts? I mean its not unlikely that Hashirama could use some Uzumaki clan abilities which I'm assuming the chakra chains are btw.

Maybe since Tobi has some Senju DNA he can use the chakra chains like Kushina to subdue tailed beasts.

It kinda clears the confusion of how Hashirama controlled tailed beasts since I doubt wood style alone would be enough to control all 9 tailed beasts.

[JazzJunkie4]

Originally Posted by Sagepain

What if the chakra chains are how Hashirama Controlled the tailed beasts? I mean its not unlikely that Hashirama could use some Uzumaki clan abilities which I'm assuming the chakra chains are btw.

Maybe since Tobi has some Senju DNA he can use the chakra chains like Kushina to subdue tailed beasts.

It kinda clears the confusion of how Hashirama controlled tailed beasts since I doubt wood style alone would be enough to control all 9 tailed beasts.

Ya it sounds possible. They mentioned a little bit about how he controlled the beasts in the beginning of part 2 somewhere as well, but I'm just too lazy to find out where.

[Phariah824]

Originally Posted by JazzJunkie4

But we saw the sharingan in the 5 tails eye, so he is using the sharingan to control the bijju's power. However, he is probably using the rinnegan to control the jinchurikees movements and such.

all the ET jinkuuri have a sharringan. it was explained 2 chaps ago that is why they appeared fast, they were using it to predict Bee and Naruto's movements. we have nothing saying he is using the sharringan to control them.

we do know for a fact that the chakra rods can be used to control others. by binding the bijuu's back into the jinkuuri and using the chakra rods he should be able to control them. he appears to be using chakra control not genjutsu to control them by the 5 tails reaction, than being put back under control after Tobi used chakra chains to drain him out of full tailed mode.

[kalmeast]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Maruko

He isn't actually controlling the real beasts,only ET Jinchurikis with their powers,controlling real beasts with eyes would be impossible in my opinion.
Imagine the chakra,controlling one beast is possbile,but more of them? I don't think so,look at Naruto's struggle to control Kyuubi and go RS mode,now imagine using your eyes to controll chakra couple of times stronger.

naa..man..whatever works for the ET's must work for the real ones... don't treat ET as if it was a fake version...it's practically the same...Is ET Itachi any different from the one who fought Sasuke in terms of abilities... Even Kotoamatsukami worked on ET itachi...
would you have said, it would be impossible for Kotoamatsukami to work on the real one or vise versa?
come on!
In essence Tobi's sharingan can control any Bijuu. Tobi is doped! 6bijuu's at once and he's not even using the Rinnegan!...

Edit: btw...i think Kakashi meant he could but it'd just be too much that's why he added the chain thingy... look at page 7, do you see the 5 tail's eye, that's a sharingan that it didn't have before...when they transformed, they lost the sharingan in the Jinchuriki...as we see with 4 tails on pg 14.

[EvL j3st3r]

yes, I believe it is certain that Sharingan (given the right user) can probably manipulate all of the beasts to some degree. I still think my old theory about the Uchiha's Sharingan deriving from the Juubi's 9 tomoe dojutsu may link to this.

http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95251

I'll have to rethink that theory a little tho since kishi went and had Madara level up to Rinnegan from Sharingan. that links the two in a more direct way than I had previously anticipated in this old thread.

[Squall]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Maruko

Hm,Goku would solo Akatsuki with his stick.

Sounds like a porno.

[Phariah824]

as seen w/ the Madara ET. he tried to summon the Kyuubi to control it and couldn't because it was bound in Naruto. all the bijuu are in ET jinkuuri. they are not running free. i don't see how the sharringan has anything to do w/ controlling them. it all points to the rinnegan chakra rods. all Kakashi says is it is his eye power controlling them. rinnegan is still an eye power. so Kakashi's statement doesn't prove it is sharringan.