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Old 11-28-2011, 08:24 PM   #41
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Guys, read the title of the chapter: beLIEve (with lie already capitalized).
Dammit Ginjo, don't be lying, I want you as a recurring character :o
I saw that as what Soul Society told Ichigo being a lie.

Ginjo most definitely deserves to stick around for a few arcs.
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I saw that as what Soul Society told Ichigo being a lie.

Ginjo most definitely deserves to stick around for a few arcs.
I wish Ginjo would stick around but I see him and Xcution being
someone that will tell Ichigo something very important that Ichigo
will need to know or will change Ichigo. Sorta rite of passage type deal.

They aren't filler characters despite what some people think.
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seeing how everyone hates on bleach yes
I don't think people hate on Bleach because Kubo doesn't plan ahead. Of course he does, its a vital part of any long running transaction or plan no matter whether it be anime/manga, novels, devices, games, and etc.

People usually rip on Bleach because of its overusage of Trolling, lack of background most of the times, overusage of large panels, it being so quick to read, its slow pace, its long dragged out arcs, the fights nowadays are usually all style no substance, the fact the main character only knows one move to this date, and oh yeah the trolling is out of control.
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I don't think people hate on Bleach because Kubo doesn't plan ahead. Of course he does, its a vital part of any long running transaction or plan no matter whether it be anime/manga, novels, devices, games, and etc.

People usually rip on Bleach because of its overusage of Trolling, lack of background most of the times, overusage of large panels, it being so quick to read, its slow pace, its long dragged out arcs, the fights nowadays are usually all style no substance, the fact the main character only knows one move to this date, and oh yeah the trolling is out of control.
naruto only uses shadow clones and Rasengan problem ?
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naruto only uses shadow clones and Rasengan problem ?
You left out Toad Summonings, Chakra Arms, RasenShuriken, and Frog Kata so like 5-6 techniques still better than 1 one move wonder.
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On the other hand, Ichigo is amazingly versatile. I don't wanna spell it out to you, but he has Getsuga Tenshou, Getsuga Tenshou, and...

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You left out Toad Summonings, Chakra Arms, RasenShuriken, and Frog Kata so like 5-6 techniques still better than 1 one move wonder.
could of fooled me because all naruto does now is shadow clones and rasengans at-least ichigo did new moves while in his hollow form
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So what if Ichigo uses Getsuga Tensho all the time? It's his best attack.
It makes sense to use it and end the fight as quickly as possible.
Would it be cool to see other attacks? Sure, but we do when we see
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He also finds new ways to use his Getsuga Tensho, like when he wrapped it around himself to form a shield against an attack from Ulqiuorra.
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Any who, is Ishida going to have any actual purpose in Bleach, I meant this arc?

All the guy's been doing is collapsing in his own puddles of blood, galloping around in the distance, and creeping under alleyways and trash cans.
He had a huge purpose, just not his own.

When Uryu was attacked, it became the trigger for Ichigo to meet with Xcution, who wanted to give Ichigo his powers back only to steal them. It's true that that purpose could've been served by Orihime or Chad, but Chad's major role in the arc was his ability to identify with the Fullbringers and remind Ichigo why he wanted his powers, while at the same time switching roles with Ichigo and protecting him to the best of his ability. Chad helped Ichigo first realize his Fullbring, so he couldn't have been hospitalized then. I'm guessing the author might have different plans for Orihime's power, since it appears to be a Fullbring and yet hasn't been recognized that way by any Fullbringer.

Orihime also wasn't suited. Orihime served the purpose of being Tsukishima's second victim. Because of the fact she received no real damage from Tsukishima's attack, her normality in the arc from beyond the point of Tsukishima's cut created a mystery of what he ever did to her. Orihime and Uryu might've switched roles there, but Uryu is more suited to combat than Orihime, and he wouldn't have portrayed it as well since Tsukishima's second attack would've played out differently against him. Being the first person to even be engaged by a Fullbringer meant he was more off guard than ever, so Uryu may not even have been attacked otherwise. Being one of the smartest and most skilled of Ichigo's group of friends, Uryu had to be Tsukishima's first target because it would've been more difficult to attack him afterwards. The flow of the arc up to Tsukishima's activation of Book of the End would've changed as well, and even then, the moment where Tsukishima uses Book of the End on everyone at once would be changed as Ichigo would've faced two combat-oriented humans rather than a fighter and a healer.

The tone of the arc fits much more with Uryu having been attacked first. If anyone else had been the first down, it wouldn't have been the same.

Also, from his limited action at the hospital, Uryu managed to create a sense that after his attack, he realized something no one else knew, and foreshadowed that he would be the key to revealing it. Ginjo, at one point, speculated that Uryu's attacker was not Tsukishima, and he was right. Uryu managed to prove this when he called out Ginjo as the true attacker, and Uryu's character was really the best fit to play the role as the one who calls Ginjo on his greatest treachery.

Uryu contributed much to the arc, but his contribution was simply more to the advancement of the plot rather than the development of his own character, which truly did end at the start of the Hueco Mundo Invasion.
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could of fooled me because all naruto does now is shadow clones and rasengans at-least ichigo did new moves while in his hollow form
You must have left out when he used Food Cart Destroyer on those Zetsus. Regardless 2 is still more than 1.

Don't you mean just a Cero and Sonido which is basically Shunpo. Naruto in his old KM and probably his new one can use the Biju Bomb, and Super Sonic Roar and his acid Chakra Arms...pffft even his beast mode is more diverse than Ichigo's Hollow Mode.
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You must have left out when he used Food Cart Destroyer on those Zetsus. Regardless 2 is still more than 1.

Don't you mean just a Cero and Sonido which is basically Shunpo. Naruto in his old KM and probably his new one can use the Biju Bomb, and Super Sonic Roar and his acid Chakra Arms...pffft even his beast mode is more diverse than Ichigo's Hollow Mode.
if all you do is bash bleach why even read it ? or call yourself a fan ?
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if all you do is bash bleach why even read it ? or call yourself a fan ?
I never said I was a fan.

I don't bash Bleach I point its flaws and weak points. Besides I barely bash it. This is the only time I ever done it. Plus I was only bashing it to piss you off for being a jack-off to Troll Master.

Plus the same be apply to you. I see you rip on Naruto a lot and still read it.

Hypocrite much
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So what if Ichigo uses Getsuga Tensho all the time? It's his only attack.
It makes sense to use it and end the fight as quickly as possible.
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He had a huge purpose, just not his own.
So he was exposition, as all of Ichigo's supposed friends are.

(With the exception of Miziruo.)
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Fixed.

So he was exposition, as all of Ichigo's supposed friends are.

(With the exception of Miziruo.)
Basically. Orihime and Chad played less solely expositionary roles in this arc, though.
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So he was exposition, as all of Ichigo's supposed friends are.

(With the exception of Miziruo.)
Ichigo has other attacks...such as slashing and stabbing.
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