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Old 11-28-2011, 05:54 PM   #61
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Default Re: Minato Vs Tsunade

Wow I feel dumb. Of course she has knowledge on FTG. Pretty much everyone alive during Minato's time does. And didn't she issue FTG to be used on Mei? lol.

Well it'd be pretty hard to get someone with FTG when you have knwoeldge
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No you didn't.

You gave chapter 233 and 234. With page 4, which was clearly not a chakra arm.

I don't need to look at the thread. Look at the paragraph I posted and counter it logically.

I showed evidence of him using chakra arms to blitz Orochimaru, which appeared from under the ground in an instant, forcing him to evade and use Shadow snakes to counter. How this isn't fast is beyond me.

I don't need to. You agreed Orochiamru could dodge a Rasenshuriken, yet he had problems dodging Tsunade's punches.

Your counter was he let her, with no evidence.

Please look at the bold.

If anything, address that.
Clearly you can see the chakra cloak and hand.

You can't say something is fast because of an asumption.

I already gave you evidence.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:57 PM   #63
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Wow I feel dumb. Of course she has knowledge on FTG. Pretty much everyone alive during Minato's time does. And didn't she issue FTG to be used on Mei? lol.

Well it'd be pretty hard to get someone with FTG when you have knwoeldge
lol. I guess Tsunade has a super reaction & speed no jutsu
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:58 PM   #64
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I sincerely disagree.

Nothing in the manga suggests she was trying to somehow hypothesize where Manda would be when he attacked Gamabunta.

She most likely saw Gamabunta was having problems and picked the blade up, leaped above where Manda was blitzing and dropped the blade at the precise time.

The fact of the matter is she leaped hundreds of feet above them in the spot where she knew he'd be, with little to no time, and dropped the blade in that same spot. That's a speed feature. She clearly read his movements and reacted accordingly.
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I sincerely disagree.

Nothing in the manga suggests she was trying to somehow hypothesize where Manda would be when he attacked Gamabunta.

She most likely saw Gamabunta was having problems and picked the blade up, leaped above where Manda was blitzing and dropped the blade at the precise time.

The fact of the matter is she leaped hundreds of feet above them in the spot where she knew he'd be, with little to no time, and dropped the blade in that same spot. That's a speed feature. She clearly read his movements and reacted accordingly.
You just contradicted yourself. You just posted to me, saying a blindside isn't a speed feat.

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Clearly you can see the chakra cloak and hand.

You can't say something is fast because of an asumption.

I already gave you evidence.
No I don't see the chakra arms.

I see a chakra cloak, you stated Sasuke reacted to chakra arms.

He did not.

He put a wing out and blocked a melee claw by KN1 Naruto.

It's not an assumption, she reacted to Manda and leaped above the spot he was, then took it to his face.

No you didn't, you stated he allowed her to hit him. That's complete non sense.

It's not a blindside, Jesus listen. I wrote an entire two paragraphs and you counter with a sentence? Get real kid
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Old 11-28-2011, 06:00 PM   #67
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I sincerely disagree.

Nothing in the manga suggests she was trying to somehow hypothesize where Manda would be when he attacked Gamabunta.

She most likely saw Gamabunta was having problems and picked the blade up, leaped above where Manda was blitzing and dropped the blade at the precise time.

The fact of the matter is she leaped hundreds of feet above them in the spot where she knew he'd be, with little to no time, and dropped the blade in that same spot. That's a speed feature. She clearly read his movements and reacted accordingly.
Well considering she is a Kage level shinobi, she probably deduced that Manda would go after Bunta and Jiraiya because they are the biggest threat to him.
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No I don't see the chakra arms.

I see a chakra cloak, you stated Sasuke reacted to chakra arms.

He did not.

He put a wing out and blocked a melee claw by KN1 Naruto.

It's not an assumption, she reacted to Manda and leaped above the spot he was, then took it to his face.

No you didn't, you stated he allowed her to hit him. That's complete non sense.

It's not a blindside, Jesus listen. I wrote an entire two paragraphs and you counter with a sentence? Get real kid
I already have give you evidence.

I already gave you evidence again.

There no need for long responses, Because that's how baseless your assumptions are.
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Well considering she is a Kage level shinobi, she probably deduced that Manda would go after Bunta and Jiraiya because they are the biggest threat to him.
Gamabunta lost the blade just before that blitz. So no she did not have time to think that over.

She managed to get the blade and still leap above both of them, reacting to Manda's blitz while Gamabunta couldn't by bringing it down in that short time span.
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Gamabunta lost the blade just before that blitz. So no she did not have time to think that over.

She managed to get the blade and still leap above both of them, reacting to Manda's blitz while Gamabunta couldn't by bringing it down in that short time span.
Well you got me there on how Tsunade got the blade so fast. But for reaching Bunta in time, I think she like channelled Chakra to her legs to give her like super lept so that she could cover that distance. If she could use chakra to strengthen her punches and kicks, no reason to see why she cant strengthen her jumps as well. Just saying.
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Well you got me there on how Tsunade got the blade so fast. But for reaching Bunta in time, I think she like channelled Chakra to her legs to give her like super lept so that she could cover that distance. If she could use chakra to strengthen her punches and kicks, no reason to see why she cant strengthen her jumps as well. Just saying.
Honestly that seems like a major cover up to the obvious fact the feature is valid and she is by all means very, very fast.

Chakra enhanced feet?

Never heard of it, and she never used it.
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Honestly that seems like a major cover up to the obvious fact the feature is valid and she is by all means very, very fast.

Chakra enhanced feet?

Never heard of it, and she never used it.
But the problem is, its not proven on screen. She has not even shown that she has fast reaction speed of feat speed for that matter. We are all speculating now.
She may or may not be fast. Hopefully the next few chapters can shed some light on her speed feats.
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Honestly that seems like a major cover up to the obvious fact the feature is valid and she is by all means very, very fast.

Chakra enhanced feet?

Never heard of it, and she never used it.
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Still contradicting yourself? Post #65
As Von clearly agrees the feat could be valid, you still speak of a blind side.

Please be quiet.

If your mind is too slow to understand how I've broken the feat down, then shame on you.
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As Von clearly agrees the feat could be valid, you still speak of a blind side.

Please be quiet.

If your mind is too slow to understand how I've broken the feat down, then shame on you.
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Post #64, go troll elsewhere.

You clearly have an obligation to explain yourself on different threads.

As majority of everyone has disagreed with most of your points tonight.
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Ok guys please dont fight. Respect each others opinion. The bottom line is, this battle can be labelled inconclusive until Tsunade actually shows more speed feats to back up her feats in Part 1
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The bottom line is, this battle can be labelled inconclusive until Tsunade actually shows more speed feats to back up her feats in Part 1
In before Kishimoto makes Tsunade mainly a healer for the battle.
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Post #64, go troll elsewhere.

You clearly have an obligation to explain yourself on different threads.

As majority of everyone has disagreed with most of your points tonight.
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