Spoiler Pick your bone with Kishi

[Wind Style Naruto]

Hmmmm..the only thing that bugs me is that Sasuke hogs up a lot of characters screentime even the main characters but lately now I sorta want him back despite how much I dislike him.

Lets see other than more Team Guy and Team Asuma that is all.

[Hitori]

I'm still annoyed about the fact that Naruto still hasn't given Hinata an answer even though he was fully conscious when she confessed her love to him. It's been a while...

[paradigm1977]

1. First is the way they run. If I ever meet a Naruto fan in real life (prolly won't I'm 34), I would consider joking around like we are ninjas, so "let's go" and then start to jog with my arms straight behind me.

It is so stupid it's funny. What is it, to save on animation time? It looks like they are running so fast, their arms get pulled back by the wind.

How fast? "ninja fast!"

2. No more shadow clone training after the first worked so well.

Naruto finds out that he can gain experience through shadow clones. I would have clones, even if just....10, practicing jutsu 24/7.

He trains at the waterfall, unlocks wind control, he has found the holy grail of ninja training.

Kishi's thoughts....oh wait, he'd be unstoppable, no more uber training to be a god in 4 weeks.

3. Lack of Wind release jutsu. Finally learns how to use it. Is told is a good compliment to a taijutsu user/close combat fighter.

So what does he do? A Rashenshurikan, and that's it!!!! He doesn't use his nature chakra. He never bothered!!! No long range wind bullets!!! Wouldn't that be a staple? Kakuzu and Danzo did ok. Or do we always have to distract them and then punch/rasengan/rasenshurik him.

4. Naruto is strong, fast durable. And has the same strategy every fight, because he knows sexy jutsu, shadowclone, and variations of Rasengan. And Kakashi said Naruto surpassed him.

Stupid.

5. That gang leader Shikamaru defeated. (outsmarted him in the caves/hideout) That guy's jutsu was to take away a person's voice. So then they can't perform many/most jutsus. That seems a little overpowered for a guy that isn't even a ninja.

6. Where is Itachi!!! Is he gonna take all week to find Kabuto? They should have fought 2 chapters ago.

[JazzJunkie4]

Originally Posted by Ockinga

I swear, some people have nothing better to do than complain. Instead of whining, why don't you try to enjoy yourself while reading the manga or watching the anime. Isn't that what its all about.

This thread is just for fun, go be a Debbie Downer somewhere else.

[Ockinga]

Originally Posted by EvL j3st3r

I hate people with self righteous attitudes. No one wants to hear you preach. It's for fun. A place we can talk about things we don't agree with in the story, or things that are inconsistant. This forum is for discussion, that means the good and bad. If you consider it beneath you and don't want to participate, consider it a private discussion and get lost. Noone's forcing you to include yourself.

Oh, Well if its a discussion i guess what I have to say is just important even if you don't agree with it like you just said.

[Ockinga]

Originally Posted by JazzJunkie4

This thread is just for fun, go be a Debbie Downer somewhere else.

Isn't being a debbie downer what this thread is all about.

[Wind Style Naruto]

Originally Posted by paradigm1977

1. First is the way they run. If I ever meet a Naruto fan in real life (prolly won't I'm 34), I would consider joking around like we are ninjas, so "let's go" and then start to jog with my arms straight behind me.

It is so stupid it's funny. What is it, to save on animation time? It looks like they are running so fast, their arms get pulled back by the wind.

How fast? "ninja fast!"

2. No more shadow clone training after the first worked so well.

Naruto finds out that he can gain experience through shadow clones. I would have clones, even if just....10, practicing jutsu 24/7.

He trains at the waterfall, unlocks wind control, he has found the holy grail of ninja training.

Kishi's thoughts....oh wait, he'd be unstoppable, no more uber training to be a god in 4 weeks.

3. Lack of Wind release jutsu. Finally learns how to use it. Is told is a good compliment to a taijutsu user/close combat fighter.

So what does he do? A Rashenshurikan, and that's it!!!! He doesn't use his nature chakra. He never bothered!!! No long range wind bullets!!! Wouldn't that be a staple? Kakuzu and Danzo did ok. Or do we always have to distract them and then punch/rasengan/rasenshurik him.

4. Naruto is strong, fast durable. And has the same strategy every fight, because he knows sexy jutsu, shadowclone, and variations of Rasengan. And Kakashi said Naruto surpassed him.

Stupid.

5. That gang leader Shikamaru defeated. (outsmarted him in the caves/hideout) That guy's jutsu was to take away a person's voice. So then they can't perform many/most jutsus. That seems a little overpowered for a guy that isn't even a ninja.

6. Where is Itachi!!! Is he gonna take all week to find Kabuto? They should have fought 2 chapters ago.

This is a pick your bone with Kishi thread. That was filler Kishi has nothing to do with filler. So you can't use that claim here. Plus no, ninjas in this series can perform Jutsus with their hands not their voice.

[JazzJunkie4]

Originally Posted by Ockinga

Isn't being a debbie downer what this thread is all about.

Ripping on things in the manga is just fun debbie, were not saying that the manga is completely ridiculous and that kishi should just give up, were just pointing out the humorous and or miscellaneous decisions and slip ups that he's made. Being a debbie downer is saying that everyone is whining and that this thread is pretty much useless and everything we are doing on this thread is stupid. It's not a very serious thread debbie, but you are taking it seriously.

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

1. Why haven't you shown us Tobi's face already ? :P
2. Where is Sasuke? I wanna see him in the battlefield, getting beaten

[EvL j3st3r]

Originally Posted by Ockinga

Oh, Well if its a discussion i guess what I have to say is just important even if you don't agree with it like you just said.

what you said was unimportant bc it was not in contribution to the discussion or the topic. You just came out from under the bridge to show your troll face in an attempt to portray that all of us are beneath you. You didn't contribute, you simply trolled everyone who posted on this thread. Again, get lost troll.

[MichaelJalapeno]

1: Where the hell is Itachi? The forest is only so big.
2: Y U NO PUT MOAR KUSHINA BACKSTORYZ?!
3: Why is Naruto not a Jonin yet? Your telling me being a hero does not get a promotion?
4: Remember Iruka Ebisu and Ibiki? Yeah you left them out.

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

@Michael : 3. He needs to complete school ^_^ .. he is a Sennin, he doesn't need a higher level ..

[InnerSakura]

Originally Posted by kakashi6613

I think I can sum this up in one word: Continuity.
For God's sakes, keep your story straight man!
So many examples.
For one, the hand signs for jutsu in early Naruto change so much! Like "Tiger" goes back and forth between being 2 fingers up (middle and index) and one up (just the index). Chidori/Raikiri changes a few times before he decided on just Ox, Rabbit, Monkey. And during the Zabuza arc, when Naruto and Sasuke are fighting Haku, is with Naruto using like 20 seals for Kage Bunshin?! It's just one! While we're on the Zabuza arc, what is up with Water Dragon Jutsu?! 40 something seals?! Fire Dragon is only 4!!

Continuing about jutsu, there are issues with those. Like Genjutsu; what happened to that? Remember when that was all that the kunoichi did, now it's iryoninjutsu (medical ninjutsu) and most genjutsu is part of Doujutsu. Speaking of, Sharingan.. um? When it first appeared, its sole power was to see fast enough to copy techniques and dodge opponent's attacks. But apparently now it has all these powers. Don't get me wrong, I think Amaterasu, Susano'o, Izanagi, etc. are all cool, but I mean, what do they have to do with the Sharingan's innate, original ability? It seems like the Sharingan is becoming way too OP. But such is the Uchiha's power.
About other jutsu, I was watching the Leaf Destruction arc again, and Gai says that Chidori was "the Copy Ninja Kakashi's original move, a secret jutsu used for assassinations." HOW THE-- you know what, forget it. Maybe Kakashi was just that much of a beast (He totally is!).

Continuing, Izumo and Kotetsu comment on Shikamaru's performance after his fight against Temari during the Chuunin Exams, and they say "He knows to prioritize the teams safety over the completion of the mission." "Yeah. 'I completed the mission, but got all my teammates killed' doesn't cut it." ...Um?! Rewind 20 years, give or take, to Hatake Sakumo, the White Fang of Konoha. He sacrificed the mission to save his comrades, and was despised for it!! Maybe times have just changed since then, I dunno. But Sakumo was driven to suicide for not completing his mission and causing hardship for Konoha.

There is so much more... I remember when Orochimaru confronts Kakashi, who had just sealed the Cursed Seal on Sasuke, he tells him "You didn't have that eye the last time I saw you." So... that means that either: 1. Orochimaru had absolutely no contact with Kakashi after he became a jounin, at the good ol' age of thirteen, or 2. Orochimaru left during the Third Great Shinobi War. As I know that #2 is not true, because the Sannin helped lead Konoha to victory during that war, that means during and after the war, all the way until he left, Orochimaru never saw Kakashi. So... when did he meet him? I know Kakashi became a Chuunin when he was 7, but, still...
Oh, and while on the topic of Kakashi, what happened to his ANBU days? Are we gonna see those? You should do a special of those sometime. Like, a whole arc or something. Would be awesome.

Hm... yeah I'm sure there's more that I'll think of when I'm watching later today, but that's all for now. :P Haha, but yeah. Continuity. I know it's hard in a Shounen manga that you basically add to as you go along, but really. OH!! The Jinchuuriki. I read the manga, and for the longest time, I thought the other Jinchuuriki's chakra cloaks would resemble their Bijuu. Naruto's is the Kyuubi, which is red, so it forms a red fox-like cloak. But then, I saw the Utakata filler arc. I couldn't wait to see his teal chakra cloak.. Wha? What do you mean it's red too?! Don't tell me...?! Yep, Bee's is red too. Not purple, like I thought it would be. ?! That would've been so much cooler, and I think make more sense. Kind of. I don't know. It would look awesome, okay?! Yeah, I was really disappointed when I saw that. I thought for sure they'd be the color of the Bijuu.
Oh yeah, and during the Leaf Destruction Arc, it's like everyone just forgets that the 3 Sand Siblings are the Kazekage's kids. Including them. Because they weren't until Kishimoto decided that in Shippuuden... Again, continuity.
Pretty much my only complaint besides the Jinchuuriki. That and the filler. Why? Especially Sora. God. Hate that kid.

And, rant over. Haha.

It was mentioned in series 1 that the kazekage was the sand sibling's father. When yashaaru tried to kill Gaara he told Gaara that it was on orders of "the kazekage, your father"

[InnerSakura]

I pretty much have no beef with Kishi. I think he did a good job fitting everything together nicely in his story. Just like a puzzle. Im surprised, given the fact that this manga has spanned over the course of ten years, that he even remembers half of the little details. Except for why we havent seen Hanabi Hyuuga anymore since the chuunin exams, I have no complaints.

[Isoteen]

Hanzo, Danzo, Deidara, Kakuzu, Hidan, Zabuza, Haku, Sasori,

Plot influence woooot