God doesn't exist... agree or disagree?

[sagemaster777]

now we just need a Registered user.

[Bacon]

Sage, aren't you a registered user?

[sagemaster777]

/Le Gasp.

GREAT SCOTT!

[Bacon]

It's a Christmas miracle.

[sagemaster777]

There's no such thing as a Christmas miracle.

/Grouchy.

[Bacon]

But there is such thing as gawd P:

[sagemaster777]

Oh my Gawd P:

[ONIMUSHA]

i want to apologize, i'm the one who keeps bumping this thread...but its just so much fun

[Blind Uchiha]

Originally Posted by Unregistered User

God's only real to those who experience him. You can't prove or disprove God, If you experience God then great. If not, then that's fine too.

Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is? Have you experienced a nuclear explosion? Does that mean it is not real? No. Your experience of God does not affect whether he exists or not.

[Rorin]

I'm not religious so i don't really believe in god. I think people that experienced the war like people in Afghanistan and seen any of their relatives/friends dieing would probably agree with me. You could say that its part of reincarnation thing but the way people die is horrible kids die from hunger/desise in Africa, i don't know what else to add.

[The Second Pornkage]

Today I watched a YouTube video of a girl asking her atheist audience "If God isn't real, then who wrote the Bible?" After buying a new computer to replace the one that broke after being thrown out a window, I was very concerned for Christians' reputation. I'd like to take a moment to share this story with you so that you may all know, we're not all that...uh, THAT.

[Naruske Uzuchi]

God doesn't exit. Why should I believe in something I've never seen and what about this bible crap? I mean it must of been written since ''God'' time and I doubt any one of them would write all of that. Random people just wrote the bible to fill your mind with stupid crap, I want proof that the bible is real not just to believe in him because he is ''real''.

[Shodai Hokage]

Who gave you a mind to think ?

Eyes to see, and ears to listen ? and heart to feel ?

Who created Night and Day :The Day to seek our sustenance and the night to rest and ponder?

Who alternates the night and day ?

Who created science so masterfully and beautifully that even in Chaos there is order ?

Who placed Our world in the the Solar system so exact that if our earth was a metre closer to the Sun , we would be destroyed by its Heat, and if we were a metre further from the Sun we would freeze ?

Who has Placed Love and affection in our Mothers hearts and Sustenance in the hands of our Fathers?

Who inpires the animals and insect life to travel thousands of kilometers or places they have never been to ?

Who sends down rain form the sky ?

Why are we arrogant ,when we where once nothing - our origin a despised abased liquid?

Do we realise that there was once a time that our names where never mentioned before ?

Who regulates our expanding Galaxy ?

who placed the moon in the prefect orbit ?

Who has gave us the ability to talk ?

Has given a wondrous majestic variety in all our different languages?

Has created us in various nations and tribes?

who has made the Earth our carpet ?

And The stars a beautiful navigation to guide ?

Who has raised the sky ?

Who has created wind as a herald of Glad tidings?

Who has created time ?

Who heals us when we are sick ?

And gives us food to eat and drink ?

Who needs no Protection and provides protection?

Who never sleeps ? and is not overtaken by death ?

In Who's hands is the Universe ?

Answer this :

Who can tell if the child in a mothers womb will be good or bad ?

Who can give the exact time that rain will fall ?

Who knows precisely what he will earn tomorrow ?

Or the exact place he is to die ?

We were not left alone on this Earth to go about hankering without purpose.

The Signs are there ,believe in Our creator

Turn to our Lord who created us

[sagemaster777]

Useless Thread is useless.

[sasu_girl]

Originally Posted by Naruske Uzuchi

God doesn't exit. Why should I believe in something I've never seen and what about this bible crap? I mean it must of been written since ''God'' time and I doubt any one of them would write all of that. Random people just wrote the bible to fill your mind with stupid crap, I want proof that the bible is real not just to believe in him because he is ''real''.

i'm sorry, but i don't like this thread simply because you either say god does or doesn't exist, when in reality no one knows. it should be if you believe or not. i respect that you don't believe, and i'm glad that you made fun of the religion instead of the people who believe it, but it still isn't very nice.

Originally Posted by Shodai Hokage

Who gave you a mind to think ?
currently, science points to evolution for the complexity of out brain and the illusion of consciousness.
Eyes to see, and ears to listen ? and heart to feel ?
the first two are tied in with the first one because let's all agree that it's a lot easier to survive with eyes and ears and it only makes sense that we would evolve such helpful parts. and empathy is also something that we need to survive as a species(if we all stopped caring about one another, the species would end and that wouldn't be helpful to mankind at all)
Who created Night and Day :The Day to seek our sustenance and the night to rest and ponder?
you're kidding, right? that would be the rotation of the earth.
Who alternates the night and day ?
previous answer
Who created science so masterfully and beautifully that even in Chaos there is order ?
we don't currently understand why certain laws are in place, but we know they're there. we'll probably never know why they're there and we have to accept that.
Who placed Our world in the the Solar system so exact that if our earth was a metre closer to the Sun , we would be destroyed by its Heat, and if we were a metre further from the Sun we would freeze ?
*facepalm* we know of multiple other planets that are in this "special zone", so that isn't even a real argument. i'm sorry i can't provide a source, but perhaps you could research it on scientific websites in your freetime. also, one of the moons of a plant in our solar system is a lot colder and covered in ice, but they believe that there's a possibility that it has a core that would melt some of the water deep below the surface to allow it to be melted enough to harbor life.
Who has Placed Love and affection in our Mothers hearts and Sustenance in the hands of our Fathers?
i already replied to the "love and affection" with my empathy statement. and sustenance because if we didn't have people to provide for us, life would cease to exist in its more complex forms because it wouldn't give time for us animals to grow old enough to carry on.
Who inpires the animals and insect life to travel thousands of kilometers or places they have never been to ?
that would be the animals(insects are animals). they need to travel to survive and they usually learn this behavior through it being passed down.
Who sends down rain form the sky ?
SERIOUSLY?! MY GAWD! have you never taken elementary school science? water evaporates and clings to specs of dust in the atmosphere and when it becomes too much for the cloud to carry, it falls back down to earth. it's part of the water cycle.
Why are we arrogant ,when we where once nothing - our origin a despised abased liquid?
i agree that we are generally arrogant, but that's because we always feel the need to show our worth. and that we were once nothing. can't argue on it.
Do we realise that there was once a time that our names where never mentioned before ?
i would hope people understand that they were once not alive xD
Who regulates our expanding Galaxy ?
(i'm assuming you mean universe.)currently? nothing does and it's expanding far too fast. in a relatively short period of time(well, compared to how long our universe had been around) we won't even be able to see other galaxies and may never have a chance to visit them. which is really a shame.
who placed the moon in the prefect orbit ?
there are actually multiple theories attempting to explain this, and i believe right now with out current knowledge that if formed from a giant piece of some kind of space rock hauling itself at the earth before differentiation occurred and ti picked up some of the materials that currently belong to out mantel and because the earth is bigger, it's pulled in but it is actually slowly moving away from the earth. it's not really all that perfect if it's moving away...
Who has gave us the ability to talk ?
we currently use evolution to explain our ability to talk. other species have different means of communication that help them undergo their everyday tasks and we just so happen to use speech for ours.
Has given a wondrous majestic variety in all our different languages?
well, when people move to other areas of the world, new words and uses are created and eventually the languages just became so vastly different that they're actually a different one. and sometimes they just made up new words because they needed something to describe it. also, some mix together. a great example is swahili because it's a mix of bantu and arabic.
Has created us in various nations and tribes?
well, some people decided that it was in their best interest to travel to other places. possibly because they were hunting, looking for luxuries(if later times when you could), or simply the areas they were in were overcrowded and they had no other choice but to move. maybe some families got into fights and split... too many possibilities.
who has made the Earth our carpet ?
i am almost 100% sure that earth is not a carpet, but the theory i learned this year in science is that the origin of our solar system being formed is that gravity pulled all the matter together and they became our planets. about as simple as i can make it.
And The stars a beautiful navigation to guide ?
i am almost completely sure that stars aren't there for our convenience, but because they're a collection of gases and have many spectacular explosions happening all the time.
Who has raised the sky ?
i'm pretty sure no one did. it's just a collection of gases that form our atmosphere and it protects us from foreign objects.
Who has created wind as a herald of Glad tidings?
ummm.... no one? the rise and fall of air due to temperature changing its density displaces the air, causing it to move.
Who has created time ?
humans. we needed something to measure what we perceive as time.
Who heals us when we are sick ?
doctors
And gives us food to eat and drink ?
my parents buy me mine, and farmers grow food. manufacturers make the processed kind. we have the government filtering through our water to make sure we can drink it.
Who needs no Protection and provides protection?
i don't know anyone who needs no protection, but we are capable of protecting ourselves. some of use, like me, aren't strong enough to do so, so we depend on the police and army.
Who never sleeps ? and is not overtaken by death ?
i've never met anyone like that. but i guess zombies could fit that description... they're undead and they don't sleep, just eat human flesh.
In Who's hands is the Universe ?
i didn't know the universe could be held.
Answer this :

Who can tell if the child in a mothers womb will be good or bad ?
no one. we have "free will"(in quotes because we technically don't because our brain decides what we want to do before we look at the pros and cons... but that doesn't make us not accountable for actually carrying it out.), so it all depends on the experiences they go through in life. some parts might be affected by how they were born, but for the most part it's the environment that a person grows up in that influences a persons choices the most.
Who can give the exact time that rain will fall ?
have you ever seen the news? no one can. we have a pretty good estimation, but we can't know for sure. too many variables.
Who knows precisely what he will earn tomorrow ?
no one knows, but many can influence what they receive through their actions and mental state.
Or the exact place he is to die ?
well.... i don't know and i'm assuming most people don't. unless they commit suicide by hanging them self in their room or something. then they know.
We were not left alone on this Earth to go about hankering without purpose.
most people make up a purpose that goes along with whatever they feel they should do, so yeah, i guess. and the actual purpose for animals is to live and reproduce.
The Signs are there ,believe in Our creator
what signs? i don't need any to know my mommy and daddy had a good time and i was the result.
Turn to our Lord who created us
i don't have a lord.

i attempted to answer your many questions to the best of my ability :3

@sage: it is pretty useless on a naruto forum xD

[Cupcake]

I'm an atheist. I was raised as a Protestant Christian but then i realized that even as a kid i doubted God's existence, so I converted. My parents still give me snide remarks about how I'm going to become a hooker because I don't have the morals that come with being a Christian. I'm fine not pushing what i believe on to others as long as they let me believe what I want.

I REALLY don't like the argument "if we evolved from monkeys, why are monkeys still here?" we have proof to show dogs evolved from wolves, and they're still here too.

[Maruko]

Originally Posted by sagemaster777

Useless Thread is useless.

Are you 9gag-er
Me gusta if you are

Btw,God does exist,Pain is god!

[ONIMUSHA]

Originally Posted by Shodai Hokage

Who gave you a mind to think ?
we were born with that ability, it's a natural ability for heterotrophs because we need to think to determine how we can get food, or to know the fact that we even need food
Eyes to see, and ears to listen ? and heart to feel ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]eyes and ears are just convenient, so evolution created them. and you don't "feel" with your heart, 'tis just an organ for pumping blood.[/COLOR]
Who created Night and Day :The Day to seek our sustenance and the night to rest and ponder?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]rotation[/COLOR]
Who alternates the night and day ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]F****NG ROTATION[/COLOR]
Who created science so masterfully and beautifully that even in Chaos there is order ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]technically speaking, science is a human creation, however the subjects studied in science are so far unexplained.[/COLOR]
Who placed Our world in the the Solar system so exact that if our earth was a metre closer to the Sun , we would be destroyed by its Heat, and if we were a metre further from the Sun we would freeze ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]not really, the reason earth is the only planet that currently supports life is because we have a survivable atmosphere, there are planets closer, and planets further, that aren't to hot or too cold, they just don't have a livable atmosphere[/COLOR]
Who has Placed Love and affection in our Mothers hearts and Sustenance in the hands of our Fathers?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]parents feel the need to protect there children through a subconcious need to keep the species progressing, that is all.[/COLOR]
Who inpires the animals and insect life to travel thousands of kilometers or places they have never been to ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]insects are animals you moron. and to answer your question, animals need to move from place to place to find a survivable climate.[/COLOR]
Who sends down rain form the sky ?
this is elementary school level science, water evaporates, then comes back down as water dropplets in a form of rain, snow, or sleet
Why are we arrogant ,when we where once nothing - our origin a despised abased liquid?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]because humans are idiotic creatures who feel the need to boast about how great they are[/COLOR]
Do we realise that there was once a time that our names where never mentioned before ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]wut[/COLOR]
Who regulates our expanding Galaxy ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]our galaxy is not expanding, were not even sure if the universe is[/COLOR]
who placed the moon in the prefect orbit ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]meh, i feel the orbit could be better[/COLOR]
Who has gave us the ability to talk ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]animals adapt to what they need in order to survive more easily, and talking is just what we came up with[/COLOR]
Has given a wondrous majestic variety in all our different languages?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]people move, come up with new words, new ways of describing things, etc. hell the english language wasn't even invented til around the sixth century by german and latin speaking people coming together to form their own language[/COLOR]
Has created us in various nations and tribes?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]humans, thats who[/COLOR]
who has made the Earth our carpet ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]as the last person who answered this said, the earth is not a carpet[/COLOR]
And The stars a beautiful navigation to guide ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]the stars aren't there for us, theyre just balls of gas burning that eventually die just like you will, just like i will, just like everything will[/COLOR]
Who has raised the sky ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]the sky is not raised, its just gasses, thats it[/COLOR]
Who has created wind as a herald of Glad tidings?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]i'm no meteorologist, hell things involving winds are my worst parts in school, so i'm gonna avoid this one[/COLOR]
Who has created time ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]humans, we needed something to measure what has and what will happen[/COLOR]
Who heals us when we are sick ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]doctors[/COLOR]
And gives us food to eat and drink ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]well, my parents give me food, which we buy from a store, which got food from farms, factories, and the like[/COLOR]
Who needs no Protection and provides protection?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]animals[/COLOR]
Who never sleeps ? and is not overtaken by death ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]zombies[/COLOR]
In Who's hands is the Universe ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]nobody's[/COLOR]
Answer this :

Who can tell if the child in a mothers womb will be good or bad ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]nobody, in fact, good and bad are human constructs that we created in order to keep the species from becoming too chaotic[/COLOR]
Who can give the exact time that rain will fall ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]nobody, but we can come pretty close[/COLOR]
Who knows precisely what he will earn tomorrow ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]unless we can see into the future, nobody[/COLOR]
Or the exact place he is to die ?
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]unless we decide to commit suicide, nobody[/COLOR]
We were not left alone on this Earth to go about hankering without purpose.
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]Make your own god-damn purpose! go out, do a wilderness sabatical, and decide what you want[/COLOR]
The Signs are there ,believe in Our creator
[COLOR="rgb(139, 0, 0)"]show me, show me a sign, show me some reason to believe in a being that defies any logical sense, show me a reason to not view the bible as some mere tool of controlling the ignorant masses! SHOW ME![/COLOR]
Turn to our Lord who created us

i answered your questions the best i could

[Akimoto Mayu]

I believe that no personal god exist, ie: poly and monotheistic religions. There is a possibility of a impersonal natural force(the way/path) that could exist,:Taoism.

[Cult of Personality]

Originally Posted by Shodai Hokage

Who gave you a mind to think ?

Who says anyone had to have given it to me?

Eyes to see, and ears to listen ? and heart to feel ?

Who says anyone had to have given them to me?

Who created Night and Day :The Day to seek our sustenance and the night to rest and ponder?

Who says anyone had to have created it? Some guy created the words.

Who alternates the night and day ?

Who says anyone has to alternate them?

Who created science so masterfully and beautifully that even in Chaos there is order ?

Ah, now here's a question that isn't utterly retarded.

The answer is, of course, not God(supposing he even exists). Science is a Human invention, a method to categorize and study the world around us.

Who placed Our world in the the Solar system so exact that if our earth was a metre closer to the Sun , we would be destroyed by its Heat, and if we were a metre further from the Sun we would freeze ?

Who says anyone has to have done that?

Who has Placed Love and affection in our Mothers hearts and Sustenance in the hands of our Fathers?

Who says anyone has to have done these?

Who inpires the animals and insect life to travel thousands of kilometers or places they have never been to ?

Who says anyone has to inspire them to do so?

Who sends down rain form the sky ?

Who says anyone has to send down rain?

Why are we arrogant ,when we where once nothing - our origin a despised abased liquid?

Who says there has to be a reason?

Do we realise that there was once a time that our names where never mentioned before ?

Yes.

Who regulates our expanding Galaxy ?

Who says anyone has to?

who placed the moon in the prefect orbit ?

Who says anyone did so?

Who has gave us the ability to talk ?

Who says anyone gave this to us?

Has given a wondrous majestic variety in all our different languages?

See previous answer.

Has created us in various nations and tribes?

Who says anyone has created nations and tribes?

who has made the Earth our carpet ?

No one because Earth is a planet not a carpet.

And The stars a beautiful navigation to guide ?

Who says anyone made the stars that way?

Who has raised the sky ?

Who says anyone has to have raised it?

Who has created wind as a herald of Glad tidings?

Who says anyone has to have created it?

Who has created time ?

Who says anyone has to have created it?

Who heals us when we are sick ?

Doctors.

And gives us food to eat and drink ?

Farmers, possibly.

Who needs no Protection and provides protection?

Superman.

Who never sleeps ? and is not overtaken by death ?

I'm sticking with Superman.

In Who's hands is the Universe ?

Who says the universe has to be in anyone's hands?

Who can tell if the child in a mothers womb will be good or bad ?

Good and bad are subjective terms and a child in his mother's womb is therefore incapable of being categorized as either one.

Who can give the exact time that rain will fall ?

Meteorologists

Who knows precisely what he will earn tomorrow ?

Anyone who can see the future.

Or the exact place he is to die ?

There's any number of people who can say this.

We were not left alone on this Earth to go about hankering without purpose.

Who says we have no purpose? Who says we need a purpose?

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Shodai Hokage's silly wall of text aside, I am largely indifferent to God's existence. Tell you one thing though, if he does exist I wouldn't worship him. Guy's a hugeprick, by his own admission.