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Old 09-29-2011, 03:56 PM   #21
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Ah, the first of no doubt many Narutards unhappy with the fact that I'm telling it like it is. I didn't expect them to mobilize so quickly.
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Ah, the first of no doubt many Narutards unhappy with the fact that I'm telling it like it is. I didn't expect them to mobilize so quickly.
Now you've moved from tosser to dickhead and a presumptuous dickhead at that. I didn't mention anything about being a 'Narutard' I merely pointed out the fact that your moronic sarcasm dissolves much of whatever point you're trying to make
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Old 09-29-2011, 04:01 PM   #23
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Kishi killed people off left and right at the beginning of the series. almost all the akatsuki were dead by the time the war started. kishis just writes weirdly. someone from either the akatsuki or konoha/suna died in every arc. he killed off to many characters too early for more death in the war. not to insult kishi but its true.
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Killing villains and fodder is not the same thing as killing main characters. Or even named characters.

Oda and Kubo kill off nameless mooks and Kubo kills off villains left and right but, a failing that all three share, very few good guys have ever died.

Kishimoto has killed off more good guys than Oda(1, that I can think of off the top of my head) or Kubo(0, zip, nadda) has, but quantity < quality. Whitebeard's death was extremely significant and a major plot point. Everyone in Naruto just died because they were no longer useful to Kishi. Their deaths had no meaning and contributed nothing to the storyline.
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In red.

Besides manga is fiction and Naruto isn't only just a story but its a comic about action and adventure geared towards teenagers. You may be an adult who reads mature adult books and look at NARUTO as an average action series but since its aimed towards teens you don't have to like it.

You are an adult right.
When did I mention Dragonball? Or Akira Toriyama for that matter. I said Akira.
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Interesting I love the picture, it's like you took a picture of me while I was looking the other way
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Ah, the first of no doubt many Narutards unhappy with the fact that I'm telling it like it is. I didn't expect them to mobilize so quickly.
My only gripe with you is your having classified Danzo as one-dimensional trash. Otherwise you were fairly spot on the cheetah, sir.
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My only gripe with you is your having classified Danzo as one-dimensional trash. Otherwise you were fairly spot on the cheetah, sir.
Agreed.

Danzo was killed off before his true potential was realized though.
I wasn't even that upset with the way he died, just the timing. If they had moved that fight toward the end of the war, after Danzo brought political strife to the story, I'd of been content.
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Danzo was one-dimensional, but his desire to kill Sasuke does exclude him from being trash in my book. :P

Danzo actually was an interesting character. His desire to protect Konoha, even if that doesn't necessarily extend to the people in it, was far more interesting than Madara's I WANNA RULE THE WORLD! plot-line. But then at the last second Kishimoto had him act out of character and be unwilling to sacrifice himself in spite of his previously held views so that he could make Sasuke look better.
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I think you strongly need to consider that literature itself (particularly fiction) is highly if not entirely subjective. The author (I believe I have said this before) has an agenda with everything he includes, but it is up to the reader to interpret it. Therefore whether something in literature has "meaning" is based entirely upon one's agenda.

SOOOO....

When you completely dismiss someone else's own opinion with nothing other than you're own subjection in the manner that I have seen you do throughout several threads including this one, you are not only proving nothing, but also making you're self look.... not so good. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone and quite frankly that's all it appears you have got to me. All I have seen you do is disagree and give no factual reason other than you're claim that you're own opinion isn't subjective. If you want to disagree, I would suggest you do so with less arrogance than you have been displaying.

By the way do you like naruto at all? You seem to regard kishi's work as garbage and have repeatedly called him a hack (further proves my point). I just wonder why you would waste you're time investing in something you don't like and don't have to like.
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Subjective schmubjective. That's just something people say when they don't want to accept the truth. It's like saying "That's your opinion." Meaningless little words used in an attempt to hide from the truth that is (in this case) Kishimoto's and Naruto's inferiority.

I don't like Naruto, I follow it because it gives me something to do. Occasionally Kishimoto will steal a character from a better author, like A or Danzo, and the parts with those characters in it will be good up until the point where Kishimoto derails them in favor of an Uchiha, but otherwise it's junk.

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Anyways, which characters do people wish to die in Naruto?
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i agree that it shouldnt be a meaningless death
but..i know id be pretty upset and sad if the charactres i love die.....
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Subjective schmubjective. That's just something people say when they don't want to accept the truth. It's like saying "That's your opinion." Meaningless little words used in an attempt to hide from the truth that is (in this case) Kishimoto's and Naruto's inferiority.

I don't like Naruto, I follow it because it gives me something to do. Occasionally Kishimoto will steal a character from a better author, like A or Danzo, and the parts with those characters in it will be good up until the point where Kishimoto derails them in favor of an Uchiha, but otherwise it's junk.
Awesome, thanks for letting us know you have nothing better to do in life except follow something you don't like in the first place, it's like you're an old geezer going to childrens movies just so you can about how bad they are

And besides that, your notion that series have to be inferior or superior to one another is bull anyway, seeing as almost everyone judges based on differing standards, namely, what they like to see in a story or series, saying one series is better than another is only true for that individual and would be a pointless opinion in the eyes of others
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Gaara needs to die to stop the Mizukage and to prevent Kishimoto from pulling anymore bullcrap like the sand actually being his mother and not a side-effect of being a demon host.

Besides that, it's obvious he won't be getting any more of what passes for character development in Naruto. Better to quit while he's ahead and have at least one character left with some small shred of dignity.




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you dont make any sense FFS. only some of what kishi does is bad, alot of it is good. or was good. if you dont like naruto, then your reason to follow it doesnt make any sense. its like R_S's example, or like a person who hates BLTs going around to restaraunts and eating BLTs everywhere.
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Very very little of what Kishimoto does is good and the parts that are good are usually ruined by everything else.

And someone who thinks Naruto is good has no room to be criticizing me for not making sense.

Lots people do things that don't make sense. No point in trying to work it out, just accept it and move on.
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Very very little of what Kishimoto does is good and the parts that are good are usually ruined by everything else.

And someone who thinks Naruto is good has no room to be criticizing me for not making sense.
this makes even less sense
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Subjective scmubjective. That's just something people say when they don't want to accept the truth. It's like saying "That's your opinion." Meaningless little words used in an attempt to hide from the truth that is (in this case) Kishimoto's and Naruto's inferiority.

I don't like Naruto, I follow it because it gives me something to do. Occasionally Kishimoto will steal a character from a better author, like A or Danzo, and the parts with those characters in it will be good up until the point where Kishimoto derails them in favor of an Uchiha, but otherwise it's junk.

You say "truth" like there is truth in literature. The fact that you disagree with me it's self proves my point. While I get plenty out of many things in naruto you don't. You saying that you're opinion overrides anyone else's as to whether something has meaning or has value in naruto means nothing if you can't fuel it with anything other than subjection. The fact is that if one determines that something subjective is superior to another thing subjective without applying it to a non subjective purpose other than that subjective topic, then it doesn't mean anything other than one's own opinion which by nature does not hold "truth"
. If you can't be mature about simply disagreeing with somebody then you are going to have an uphill battle in life.

By the way if you don't like naruto than you being here is probably a poor use of you're time. I hope I don't have to tell you that though.
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