ulquiorra vs yamamoto genriusay

[Flying Fortress Skyfire]

Originally Posted by Flying Fortress Skyfire

There's no way in hell Ulquiorra would survive long enough to reach Segunda Etapa.

What this person said should have ended the thread.

[321zigzag3]

Aizen had the hougokyo impanted that time.

Its far greater than anything Ulquiorra has tanked.

In order to prove Lanza will land more time than not in close quarters, you relying that Yamamato is not a skilled hand to hand combatant in anything.

Cmon now. You keep going on about Ulquiorra feats but you aren't even considering so much for example on shikai as well.

Even aizen admitted he was lesser than Yamamoto in combat thats why had Wonderweiss created as a direct counter.

Yet Yamamoto fodderized him.

[colorles]

look all Ulquiorra has to do is sonido to close quarters with lanza ready; now sure Yamamoto is extremely skilled in cqc, and will likely pary it off or evade and then counter with that punch attack or whatever that destroyed Wonderweis, or somthing of the like. however Ulquiorra has instant regeneration, and even if he still takes some heavy damage, he can survive that initial hit much to Yamamoto's surprise and stab yama with lanza, thus said lanza will explode from inside the gash it is embedded in yama, killing him, unless you think Yamamoto can survive being blown up from the inside out of course

Aizen lask the raw destructive power that Ulquiorra posseses, that is the sole reason Yamamoto had advantages over aizen, since he could somwhat counter kyoka suigetsu via experience, however Ulquiorra has the raw power to destryo yama with lanza, and the regenerateve capabilities to withstand the inebitable counter in cqc from Yamamoto and stab him with lanza

as i said, Ulquiorra is gonna take damage but his regeneration can save him long enough to stab yamamoto with lanza in the scenerio i proposed. now can yama survive being stabbed by Lanza del Relempago?



also i'm not saying Ulquiorra is overall a more cunning combatant than Aizen, only that he has matchup advantages over Yamamoto while Yamamoto has matchup advantages over Aizen (pre condom Aizen that is)

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Yori

R U Serious? NF Grimm6jack all over again

really he/she worships the ground MVC'ers walk on did you expect quality from that?

Originally Posted by Flying Fortress Skyfire

What this person said should have ended the thread.

even if it reaches segundo etapa it's hardly going to do anything

he has no way of harming the old man who can just nuke him with kido if he does not feel like using his sword

[colorles]

look Ulquiorra is gonna engage in cqc with Yamamoto and despite taking a hit, his regeneration will allow him to withstand to counter yama's counter with lanza. thats Ulquiorras chance at winning this; if yamamoto can withstand lanza, thats that, but either way Ulquiorra is GONNA land Lanza from close range in the way i proposed, and if the battle goes longer ranged Ulquiorra can counter anything from yama with his instantly spammable cero oscuras, and can get close with sonido and lanza ready

Ulquiorra is gonna hit yama at close range with lanza, despite the damage he may take

dont bother refuting that til lataz kids gotta chil ;]

seriosly though just observe how the characters are portrayed in the source material, both Ulquiora and Ichigo fought exclusively each other in their hidden forms, and Kubo portrayed them on a 'different existence' of ability, similiar to how later on Dangai Ichigo and hogokyu evolved Aizen weree portrayed on yet another 'existence'

[Yori]

Originally Posted by colorles

look Ulquiorra is gonna engage in cqc with Yamamoto and despite taking a hit, his regeneration will allow him to withstand to counter yama's counter with lanza. thats Ulquiorras chance at winning this; if yamamoto can withstand lanza, thats that, but either way Ulquiorra is GONNA land Lanza from close range in the way i proposed, and if the battle goes longer ranged Ulquiorra can counter anything from yama with his instantly spammable cero oscuras, and can get close with sonido and lanza ready

Ulquiorra is gonna hit yama at close range with lanza, despite the damage he may take

dont bother refuting that til lataz kids gotta chil ;]

seriosly though just observe how the characters are portrayed in the source material, both Ulquiora and Ichigo fought exclusively each other in their hidden forms, and Kubo portrayed them on a 'different existence' of ability, similiar to how later on Dangai Ichigo and hogokyu evolved Aizen weree portrayed on yet another 'existence'

You think Ulqy can bounce back from taking a hit from Yama? Um Hello Sokotsu?

[321zigzag3]

Why do you keep omitting Yamamoto?

His feats are on par and will surpass that of Ulquiorra and Hollow Ichigo.

Actually you forget that Ulquiorra will use LAnza mainly as a cutting or piercing tool, he doesn't want to explode near him.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Yori

You think Ulqy can bounce back from taking a hit from Yama? Um Hello Sokotsu?

does he really even need that? one good flame strike and he'd be in flaming pieces

[colorles]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Why do you keep omitting Yamamoto?

His feats are on par and will surpass that of Ulquiorra and Hollow Ichigo.

Actually you forget that Ulquiorra will use LAnza mainly as a cutting or piercing tool, he doesn't want to explode near him.

Ulquiorra was more than willing to use Lanza at close range towards the latter parts of his batle with Scarmask Ichigo, he dis use it at close range against Scarmask only to have it 'nuetralized' by Scarmask's hierro, Ulq even comented "with his bare hand?!". anyways though he is more than willing to use Lanza at close range if he feels the need to do so, and against the captain commander he'l feel the need to do so

and watchdog do you seriously think Yamamoto can take Ulquiorra out in single hit before Ulq re-counters with a Lanza to yama's chest? keep in mind Ulquiorra dis withstand Scarmask's cero from point blank range and survived (albeit severly injured) to cut Scarmasks horn off; against Yama even if he does get hit, his hierro/regeneration (mostly the latter) will keep him alive long enough to stab Yamamoto with Lanza del Relampago

now let me ask this: do you seriosly think Yamamoto can survive Lanza del Relampago? mind you Yamamoto does not have hierro (let alone hierro of Scarmasks level)...so...

[colorles]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

really he/she worships the ground MVC'ers walk on did you expect quality from that?



even if it reaches segundo etapa it's hardly going to do anything

he has no way of harming the old man who can just nuke him with kido if he does not feel like using his sword

by the way is this you?

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/scripts....php?uid=68346



lol 'nuke him with kido', cero oscuras/sonido counters any of that, not to mention Lanza

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by colorles

by the way is this you?

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/scripts....php?uid=68346



lol 'nuke him with kido', cero oscuras/sonido counters any of that, not to mention Lanza

I don't post in rat infested houses that's not me that;s probably Tyrant impersonating me or some other moron

thanks though made my day though I don't see the point of it really

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by colorles

Ulquiorra was more than willing to use Lanza at close range towards the latter parts of his batle with Scarmask Ichigo, he dis use it at close range against Scarmask only to have it 'nuetralized' by Scarmask's hierro, Ulq even comented "with his bare hand?!". anyways though he is more than willing to use Lanza at close range if he feels the need to do so, and against the captain commander he'l feel the need to do so

Lance is the only thing going for you.

Like I said Vizard Ichigo barely survived Cero Oscuras. Yamamato can easily do so and has proven it when he survived the fire.

Durability, strength not in Ulquiorra's favor at all, you should know this its pretty obvious. COmpare it.

now let me ask this: do you seriosly think Yamamoto can survive Lanza del Relampago? mind you Yamamoto does not have hierro (let alone hierro of Scarmasks level)...so...

Regardless, the chance of that landing it on Yamamoto is not clear cut. Yamamoto is an actual skilled fighter with the blade, contrary with most captains or even Ichigo most of the time who does clang clang with the sword.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

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Lance is the only thing going for you.

Like I said Vizard Ichigo barely survived Cero Oscuras. Yamamato can easily do so and has proven it when he survived the fire.

Durability, strength not in Ulquiorra's favor at all, you should know this its pretty obvious. COmpare it.





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Regardless, the chance of that landing it on Yamamoto is not clear cut. Yamamoto is an actual skilled fighter with the blade, contrary with most captains or even Ichigo most of the time who does clang clang with the sword.

well i never said cero oscuras could seriosly injure Yamamoto, only that Ulquiorra can spam it en Segunda Ettapa and that it could be used along with sonido to counter Yama's attacks at long range

not pure strenght in Ulquiorras favor, but durablity with hierro (although he isnt particlarly noted for it) but most his instant regeneration, which although it cant regenerate internal organs it CAN protect against fire as it would regenerate his skin, and it can keep him alive long enough to hit Yamamoto in cqc, even if he takes severe damage, with Lanza. as skilled as Yama is, with all of Uqluiorra's abilites and regeneration, he cant take down Ulq in a single hit at cqc like he did to Wonderweis, and after strike Ulq with said attack, Ulq should be able to survive it with damage (as he did against Scarmask's cero point blank0 and lanza Yamamoto from point blank. either way Ulquiorra will be pretty injured after this, but if he feels the need to he is more than willing to use Lanza at close range, as if he feels an opponent is stronger than him, Ulq doesnt feel he deserves to live anyways as he said against scarmask "do it" then gets hit point blank with cero, yet still survives to counter again. so Ulq doesnt particualry care when taking heavy damage against an opponent he feels he has to do so against, and will do so against Yama and will counter with close range Lanza, whether Yama can survive this i'm not sure, its possible with his level of reiatsu but its doubtful. and he doesnt have hierro so...




also i'm not trying to underrate Yamamoto at all, we all know what he is capable off (well not quite, this is all not even counting his bankai0. i'm only trying to point out how Ulquiorra and Scarmask are portrayed in the manga, and mostly how, despite being overall 'weaker' than Aizen, Ulquiorra has the pure destructive attacks that Aizen lacked against Yamamoto, whom kyoka suigetsu wasnt as useful against due to experience, and can counter fire with his regen and cero oscuras, and can potentially seriosly harm Yamamoto with a point blank destructive force attack (that also has p[iercing qualities). in other words, matchup wise Ulquiorra would fare better against Yamamoto than Aizen, despite being overall 'weaker' than Aizen (although not in pure destructive force as i just said)

[Apollo Justice]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Lance is the only thing going for you.
Like I said Vizard Ichigo barely survived Cero Oscuras. Yamamato can easily do so and has proven it when he survived the fire. Durability, strength not in Ulquiorra's favor at all, you should know this its pretty obvious. COmpare it.

Now that I think about it Ulquiorra has healing capabilities.

But he died from Hollow Ichigo's Cero to the face I think even someone like Yamamoto as durable as he is couldn't handle that.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I'm pretty sure a healing factor that does not regenerate internal organs fast enough to save your life is useless against an enemy that can vaporize chunks of your body with a casual swing

[Seven]

Ulq said he can't regenerate internal organs. :P

[Roronoa Zoro]

Originally Posted by Seven

Ittokaso was directed at Wonderwiess though, That's mainly why Aizen wasn't effected.

Thank you for pointing this out. Aizen admitted that Yamamoto could probably beat him so he used Wonderwiess to take out all his flames. Yamamoto was raping wonderwiess like some DBZ character with just his bare fist. I don't want to repeat others valid points such as

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Yamada wins this one with some difficulty

His Shikai is enough take out ulq. Also. He is an expert in lido and did survey a sacrificial kido during his fight with just a lost of an arm

Who would of known a expert at high level Kido also.

Originally Posted by Vivi

Yamamoto hasn't shown Bankai.

Anyway I don't think Ulquiorra got anything to kill Yamamoto when he withstood an Explosion that according to Aizen would have been enough to destroy an area several times bigger than Karakura Town.
The size of it was mentioned in the Manga though I forgot what Chapter.

Anyway it's still an impressive Feats.

Especially considering that he withstood Itto Kaso right afterwards.

Right!!? They just don't understand like we do.

Originally Posted by Seven

Stomp much?
Yama-G withstood Itto Kaso, I doubt that Ulquiorra's Lanza Del Rampago will do much more to Yama. Ulquiorra probably has the speed advantage from what we have seen in the manga/anime, but Yama-G is no novice, he will obviously know how to counter someone faster than himself, I expect a wall of flames as a barrier if Ulq tries and close range stuff. Then we have Ulquiorra's regeneration, which if he loses vital organs he can't use. (i.e. Ichigo blasting him and taking a few out, Ulquiorra then admits that weakness in the fight.) Regeneration is also no good if there is nothing but ash left after an attack from Yama-G. Also on the Lanza Del Rampago vs Itto Kaso thing, Lanza Del Rampago does not beat Itto Kaso in strength nor diameter of explosion. Anyone who thinks that needs their eyes checked.

And Ulquiorra won't be using wonderweiss for help so hes screwed.

Originally Posted by Inuyasha

Yamamoto has been Head captain for centuries he's said to be the strongest Soul Reaper in history.
I doubt even Ulquiorra's Lanza del Relempago which is like his strongest attack can tank him.

Thank you but I think Ichigo might be the strongest now but ether way I agree.

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Aizen had the hougokyo impanted that time.

Its far greater than anything Ulquiorra has tanked.

In order to prove Lanza will land more time than not in close quarters, you relying that Yamamato is not a skilled hand to hand combatant in anything.

Cmon now. You keep going on about Ulquiorra feats but you aren't even considering so much for example on shikai as well.

Even aizen admitted he was lesser than Yamamoto in combat thats why had Wonderweiss created as a direct counter.

Yet Yamamoto fodderized him.

Don't you guys see this!!!

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

And Hollow Ichigo was standing still when Ulquiorra threw it.

Ulquiorra admitted that aiming his lance was harder than he thought.



Do you believe Ulquiorra can engage Yamamoto hand in hand combat?

Should I go on?

Originally Posted by Yori

Yama? The guy that withstood and attack that would have taken out FK and the real one? The guy that Aizen said one on one he couldn't beat? The guy that performed an 90 Hado and is still alive and kicking? The guy that made two senior captains look like kids? The guy that if you let him lands a single punch your done for?

The hell we are debating about?

This thread is over Yamamoto wins. All the people I quoted are getting rep from me once I go back up to green.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Seven

Ulq said he can't regenerate internal organs. :P

so much for Regen then Yamamoto shanks him pulls out his stomach and makes some hollow haggus goes and invites the "most interesting man in the world' into heaven so the two can enjoy BBQ'd espada with a side of fraccion chased down with some bourbon and dos equis

[assassin]

genryusai

[THE X UCHIHA]

Originally Posted by Seven

I have and it had nothing on Ittokaso, using the word successfully is a bad habit, that implies that they may launch unsuccessfully, but aside from the grammar issues you have, You can't say he can't dodge them, because though they are powerful they don't have the speed to hit a supersonic+ Yama-G. Also his flames are rather strong seeing as how they did keep Aizen, Tousen, and Gin at bay for a while, given that they didn't try to escape Yama wouldn't just throw any old barrier at them, his flames are quite strong enough to burn away a Lanza Del Rampago. He did also burn Allon away with a single swish of flame.

man what's wrong with you , I didn't say successfully .. I said
" successively " which means " a thing after another "

Aizen never intended to fight from the beginning , you can't prove that he couldn't get himself outta those flames.

nevertheless, flames are not that that fast.

The reason why Aizen didn't evade them is because he didn't wanna go into a fight with Yama.

However,Ulq's fast regeneration enables him to survive Yama's attacks.