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Old 08-18-2011, 01:16 PM   #21
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Near is awesome. At least in the manga.

The anime should have been longer because it left out a lot of the Near and Mello arc that would have helped quite a bit since a lot of the little details
in solving the Kira case Near found in those missing parts.

Read the manga and you'll see Near's assumptions were NOT out of the blue
and made sense. Though it may be hard to follow.

Also contrary to popular belief Near did NOT have help from L.
L deleted ALL the information he had on the Kira case.
Near had to start all over from square one. The only thing
L "helped" with was proving Kira's existence. But even that
doesn't matter since Light was going to make that obvious ANYWAYS.
If anything it was actually Mello who stole information from Near.
But that's just how Mello rolls and why Mello rules.

Near and Mello were awesome.

And actually I like them better than L.

Though L is awesome too.
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I think Light got what he deserved. His mission to rid the world of evil criminals started off for the right reasons, but by the end he was corrupted by the power the Death Note gave him and turned completely insane. If he had lived, it wouldn't have surprised me if he eventually started killing people that didn't deserve it or hadn't wronged him in any way.
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Near is awesome. At least in the manga.

The anime should have been longer because it left out a lot of the Near and Mello arc that would have helped quite a bit since a lot of the little details
in solving the Kira case Near found in those missing parts.

Read the manga and you'll see Near's assumptions were NOT out of the blue
and made sense. Though it may be hard to follow.

Also contrary to popular belief Near did NOT have help from L.
L deleted ALL the information he had on the Kira case.
Near had to start all over from square one. The only thing
L "helped" with was proving Kira's existence. But even that
doesn't matter since Light was going to make that obvious ANYWAYS.
If anything it was actually Mello who stole information from Near.
But that's just how Mello rolls and why Mello rules.

Near and Mello were awesome.

And actually I like them better than L.

Though L is awesome too.
Mello gave lots of information to Near, well, at least in the anime (the fake rules). I actually like Mello, Near is just sooooo annoying. Like L, but not as brilliant. And if they left out reasons why he made some assumptions then my bad, I should read the manga (What about the Mikomi thing? was there a reason in the manga he assumed it was him?).

Also, I never thought Near had help from L, I clearly remember Light deleting the information.

So you like the half of death note following L's death more then the first half?
Interesting. I would have liked it more if Light was defeated in a better way, instead Mikomi's "my baaaaddd...." ruining everything.
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Mello gave lots of information to Near, well, at least in the anime (the fake rules). I actually like Mello, Near is just sooooo annoying. Like L, but not as brilliant. And if they left out reasons why he made some assumptions then my bad, I should read the manga (What about the Mikomi thing? was there a reason in the manga he assumed it was him?).

Also, I never thought Near had help from L, I clearly remember Light deleting the information.

So you like the half of death note following L's death more then the first half?
Interesting. I would have liked it more if Light was defeated in a better way, instead Mikomi's "my baaaaddd...." ruining everything.

Mello only told Near that one of the rules was fake. He didn't
say which one. Near figured out which one. I say it was more
than a fair trade considering Mello stole four years worth
of information from Near.

I think Near is smarter than L. However L is the better detective
because L has smarts and takes action. Near was too cautious.
Mello on the other hand was too rash. Mello is no idiot but
he lets his emotions get in the way of his thinking sometimes.
I actually think Mello would make for a better successor.

Actually it was Watari who deleted the information.

I think it was more than just Mikami's "my bad".
It was Mello's bold move and Gevanni's observation
that led to Light's defeat.


I think the real reason Near won was because he made better
use of his team than L, Mello and even Light did.

I think L's downfall was Soichiro Yagami and not actually Light, Rem or Misa. I think L respected Soichiro and because of that held himself back.

I think Mello's downfall was he associated with the wrong crowd.
Sure the mafia got him the notebook quickly but he also lost it
easily because he was working with criminals. He did not have
the legal protections of working with the NPA or SPK.
After that Mello was virtually alone. I think if Mello wanted to
he could have disappeared without a trace but he wanted to
see Kira go down and paid for it with his life.

Light's downfall was his arrogance. He thought his team was so
stupid that nobody would ever figure out he was Kira.
Since L died he underestimated both Near and Mello.

Near made the best use of his team because he knew he
couldn't do anything without them. Near needed them
and they needed Near. Near was the brains of the SPK
and the SPK was the body of Near.
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Mello only told Near that one of the rules was fake. He didn't
say which one. Near figured out which one. I say it was more
than a fair trade considering Mello stole four years worth
of information from Near.

I think Near is smarter than L. However L is the better detective
because L has smarts and takes action. Near was too cautious.
Mello on the other hand was too rash. Mello is no idiot but
he lets his emotions get in the way of his thinking sometimes.
I actually think Mello would make for a better successor.

Actually it was Watari who deleted the information.

I think it was more than just Mikami's "my bad".
It was Mello's bold move and Gevanni's observation
that led to Light's defeat.


I think the real reason Near won was because he made better
use of his team than L, Mello and even Light did.

I think L's downfall was Soichiro Yagami and not actually Light, Rem or Misa. I think L respected Soichiro and because of that held himself back.

I think Mello's downfall was he associated with the wrong crowd.
Sure the mafia got him the notebook quickly but he also lost it
easily because he was working with criminals. He did not have
the legal protections of working with the NPA or SPK.
After that Mello was virtually alone. I think if Mello wanted to
he could have disappeared without a trace but he wanted to
see Kira go down and paid for it with his life.

Light's downfall was his arrogance. He thought his team was so
stupid that nobody would ever figure out he was Kira.
Since L died he underestimated both Near and Mello.

Near made the best use of his team because he knew he
couldn't do anything without them. Near needed them
and they needed Near. Near was the brains of the SPK
and the SPK was the body of Near.
He made the assumption of that one. Because, for the author, that would be an easy reason to look at Light as a suspect.

I meant when Light deleted L's blog thingy. That would have been helpful.

I disagree with your opinion of Near. He is just the replacement of L to me. L was smarter, and more awesome imo. I don't think Near was smarter than L, I think he needed Mello because, individually they can't surpass L.

Gevanni's observation? That didn't take much, because of Mikami's methodical way of living. Mello's bold move wouldn't have mattered if Mikami hadn't of did what he did. He does everything perfectly knowing he is being watched, then he takes the guy following him straight to where the real death note is? What a pathetic way for Light to be defeated. Light would have won if it wasn't for that plot no jutsu.
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He made the assumption of that one. Because, for the author, that would be an easy reason to look at Light as a suspect.

Well of course. It has to advance the plot. L's assumptions did the same.
However like L Near's assumption of which one was the fake rule made
perfect sense.

I meant when Light deleted L's blog thingy. That would have been helpful.

Light never did that. It was Watari. Why would Light delete L's info
on Kira when Light IS Kira and can use the information to his advantage.


I disagree with your opinion of Near. He is just the replacement of L to me. L was smarter, and more awesome imo. I don't think Near was smarter than L, I think he needed Mello because, individually they can't surpass L.

I liked L too. He was great. But he died. Near and Mello are his avengers.


Gevanni's observation? That didn't take much, because of Mikami's methodical way of living. Mello's bold move wouldn't have mattered if Mikami hadn't of did what he did. He does everything perfectly knowing he is being watched, then he takes the guy following him straight to where the real death note is? What a pathetic way for Light to be defeated. Light would have won if it wasn't for that plot no jutsu.

You don't actually get what happened, do you?

The whole reason Mikami wrote in the Death Note is BECAUSE of Mello.

Mikami's problem wasn't that he led them to where the Death Note was.
He already did that several times before. It was that his life was too
methodical and his sudden change of going to the bank was easily
caught by Gevanni who was keeping an eye on Mikami on orders
from Near.

Near is awesome.
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Light shouldn't have died! I know, he was insane and kinda creepy but Light was awesome! I wished he killed Near and succeed but Mikami had to mess up!

L on the other hand shouldn't have died either. I kinda think of him as a stalker. O.o Going to the same school and all. HAhaha, anyways, I also wish L lived, he was totally better than Near and Mello! ^-^
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I've read, and watched the Death Note series so many times, and my reactions are always the same.

L's death is always sad, Mello's Death isnt so bad, but it's still sad, Matt's Death is always shocking, and Light's death is by far the saddest. Light was innocent but the notebook corrupted him.
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Near is awesome.
No it didn't. Light had done many suspicious around L, making him question the 13 day rule because it would have made perfect sense for Light to volunteer to be detained. L knew how smart Light was, he knew Light would try to pull something like that. Near made the assumption which, where as L had a good reason to assume that could be a fake rule.


? I know for sure that Light deleted this. Maybe it was on L's personal computer or something, but he was documenting all the events over the timeline before his death and Light deleted it.

What the fork?! Seriously?! You actually think I don't get that?! My whole point is Mikami is smart. He knew someone was following him. He then decides to screw the plan and take him to the real one, when he himself probably knows he is so methodical and that would be really obvious. Light told him not to take unnecessary actions. The whole point is that Near won simply because a smart character made a stupid mistake that got Light defeated and killed. Oh, and Mello's bold move wouldn't have mattered simply being that Light would have killed her. Also, Mikami knowing that pages torn away from the death note still work, he would assume that Kira has those and would take care of the situation without him giving the location up. So, why did Mikami do this being a smart person and all? idk, exactly my point. "The whole reason Mikami wrote in the death note is BECAUSE of Mello." lol duh. It wouldn't have mattered, being that because she would be killed by Light and Mikami would have continued his methodical way of living and use of the fake death note and Light's plan would have finished them off. However, he did take unnecessary actions that a character like Mikami wouldn't have not done if the author didn't want to just end the story with Light dying.
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I've read, and watched the Death Note series so many times, and my reactions are always the same.

L's death is always sad, Mello's Death isnt so bad, but it's still sad, Matt's Death is always shocking, and Light's death is by far the saddest. Light was innocent but the notebook corrupted him.
He was a victim more than anyone else ;~;
See, I wished they said that...Like after Light dies and they are looking at him (His manga death), a member of the Japanese task force or Near said that. That would be so emotional, I would have loved it!
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No it didn't. Light had done many suspicious around L, making him question the 13 day rule because it would have made perfect sense for Light to volunteer to be detained. L knew how smart Light was, he knew Light would try to pull something like that. Near made the assumption which, where as L had a good reason to assume that could be a fake rule.


? I know for sure that Light deleted this. Maybe it was on L's personal computer or something, but he was documenting all the events over the timeline before his death and Light deleted it.

What the fork?! Seriously?! You actually think I don't get that?! My whole point is Mikami is smart. He knew someone was following him. He then decides to screw the plan and take him to the real one, when he himself probably knows he is so methodical and that would be really obvious. Light told him not to take unnecessary actions. The whole point is that Near won simply because a smart character made a stupid mistake that got Light defeated and killed. Oh, and Mello's bold move wouldn't have mattered simply being that Light would have killed her. Also, Mikami knowing that pages torn away from the death note still work, he would assume that Kira has those and would take care of the situation without him giving the location up. So, why did Mikami do this being a smart person and all? idk, exactly my point. "The whole reason Mikami wrote in the death note is BECAUSE of Mello." lol duh. It wouldn't have mattered, being that because she would be killed by Light and Mikami would have continued his methodical way of living and use of the fake death note and Light's plan would have finished them off. However, he did take unnecessary actions that a character like Mikami wouldn't have not done if the author didn't want to just end the story with Light dying.
Mikami didn't know Light had the torn piece of death note in his watch.
Without that Light would not be able to kill Takada since the death
note (the one Mikami didn't have) was kept under the NPA's lock and key.

Mikami made the logical assumption that Light couldn't make a move
and so seeing Takada as a threat (like Light did) he decided to delete her.

It was actually Light who screwed himself over. Not Mikami.
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Mikami didn't know Light had the torn piece of death note in his watch.
Without that Light would not be able to kill Takada since the death
note (the one Mikami didn't have) was kept under the NPA's lock and key.

Mikami made the logical assumption that Light couldn't make a move
and so seeing Takada as a threat (like Light did) he decided to delete her.

It was actually Light who screwed himself over. Not Mikami.
I disagree. I think Mikami would have maybe thought a little more before doing anything. I was saying he knew that a death note page still works when it is torn from the notebook, so it is very possible that the original Kira would have a piece (doesn't matter where). And that he would take care of the situation without having to bring the SPK member to the real one. Why did Mikami go 2 days in a row...That was really stupid.

But, really, I think that Light is much smarter than that, and so how he was defeated was pathetic. The author gave it a quick and undeserved ending for Light. Not like he is a good guy, but I know that he was just so smart, and for him to be defeated that way was just a quick and easy way to end the series.
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I disagree. I think Mikami would have maybe thought a little more before doing anything. I was saying he knew that a death note page still works when it is torn from the notebook, so it is very possible that the original Kira would have a piece (doesn't matter where). And that he would take care of the situation without having to bring the SPK member to the real one. Why did Mikami go 2 days in a row...That was really stupid.

But, really, I think that Light is much smarter than that, and so how he was defeated was pathetic. The author gave it a quick and undeserved ending for Light. Not like he is a good guy, but I know that he was just so smart, and for him to be defeated that way was just a quick and easy way to end the series.
The death note not in Mikami's possession was kept under lock and key.
So how would Light be able to tear off a piece? He wouldn't. So I
don't blame Mikami for thinking Light couldn't make a move. Besides
that Light was being watched. How's Mikami to know that Aizawa
and Ide would be stupid enough to have Light sit in the back of the
car. Hell Aizawa having suspected Light should have caught him in
the act. But the whole task force didn't want Light to be Kira
and that's why they could never capture him. Nor could L.
Near on the other hand had the SPK who didn't give a crap about Light.
They just wanted to see Kira to go rot in jail. Or be executed.

Mikami went two days in a row because he thought Light couldn't
make a move as he was being watched. So it was hardly stupid.
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i didn't like the second season of Death note, Period.

The Manga was A little better, but still i didn't like.
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i didn't like the second season of Death note, Period.

The Manga was A little better, but still i didn't like.
I liked it better. The only good thing about the first half is L and Light.

Everything else I didn't care for. Especially Yotsuba. Ugh.

Second half was better. The SPK is way better of an investigation
team than the Japanese Task Force. Though I mostly blame Soichiro
since he was biased and made things more difficult for L. While
the SPK was like "Why don't we just shoot him?" If Near wasn't
so obsessed about proving Light was Kira then he could have
even more simply "solved" the Kira case.

If Near didn't beat Light I would have liked to see Mello do so.

BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM

Mello: Did the killings stop?

Matt: Um...yeah...

Mello: So I guess he was Kira after all.

Matt: You GUESSED?

Mello: He looked at me funny.
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The death note not in Mikami's possession was kept under lock and key.
So how would Light be able to tear off a piece? He wouldn't. So I
don't blame Mikami for thinking Light couldn't make a move. Besides
that Light was being watched. How's Mikami to know that Aizawa
and Ide would be stupid enough to have Light sit in the back of the
car. Hell Aizawa having suspected Light should have caught him in
the act. But the whole task force didn't want Light to be Kira
and that's why they could never capture him. Nor could L.
Near on the other hand had the SPK who didn't give a crap about Light.
They just wanted to see Kira to go rot in jail. Or be executed.

Mikami went two days in a row because he thought Light couldn't
make a move as he was being watched. So it was hardly stupid.
you really don't think that Mikami would have thought about what happened to his death note before he got it?... how would Mikami have known he was with a bunch of investigators in the first place? You still didn't give an explanation of why Mikami went two days in a row. I'm guessing he would only need one visit to write a name down, right?
L was given a puzzle where pieces didn't seem to fit. The potato chip thing, the 13 day rule (He did have reason to suspect this being a fake, however) Also, most of that time he didn't know anything about the death note, thinking Light's fake execution would prove of him being Kira, but when he finally got the death note, things still didn't add up, so he was going to test it not realizing it was just going to kill him...Near won because of his assumptions and having Mello. L was at a disadvantage knowing the other side of the story, after all, he wanted to actually prove Light was Kira before locking him up or something.

I just know that Light is more brilliant than Near...and that he probably deserved to win (Light made mistakes that very unlike Light imo) and that is why the ending was disappointing for me and most people.
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I like how light die. Light is my fav character and all but the way he die was brilliant. The entire sires he was all powerful, I'm the greatest, I'm god and can't be defeated. He act like he's on top and can't be touch. When he was dying I saw a weak, patience, begging for his life human. Who he really is, human.
Also I can't help but get piss off when i see Light smiling as he holds L in his arms as he dies. Not kool.
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