Six tails Kyuubi vs Luffy

[Akatsuki X]

Not one to agree with the whole "blitz" argument. But for those arguing that there are any Naruto characters who can beat Luffy, please do realize that Luffy is mid to high hypersonic, able to dodge lasers at point blank range and such.

Nightmare Luffy is just overkill, Elephant gun, etc etc etc.

The only real threat I see to Luffy in the entire Naruto-verse is Rikodou maybe with hype.

[Amano Yukiteru]

Full on Kyuubi should be above Luffy as well considering KN8 broke out of Chibaku Tensei and half of Kyuubi's chakra was sealed into the death god.

[Rikudo-Sennin]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Sora

Pretty sure anyone who can blitz and slice a pacifista in half, down the middle, will be able to cut KN6 in half as well.

You CANNOT cut naruto when he is 4-6 tails probably 8 tails as well

[Rikudo-Sennin]

Originally Posted by Akatsuki X

Not one to agree with the whole "blitz" argument. But for those arguing that there are any Naruto characters who can beat Luffy, please do realize that Luffy is mid to high hypersonic, able to dodge lasers at point blank range and such.

Nightmare Luffy is just overkill, Elephant gun, etc etc etc.

The only real threat I see to Luffy in the entire Naruto-verse is Rikodou maybe with hype.

Gedo statue as well but he does not have feats. Madara,Kabuto and others can pose as a threat to Luffy

[Amano Yukiteru]

Originally Posted by Rikudo-Sennin

You CANNOT cut naruto when he is 4-6 tails probably 8 tails as well

No limits fallacy.

8 Tails I can understand but as far as I can tell Zoro's feats of cutting are far above KN4 or KN6 durability.

As far as I know Pacifistas have shown much more impressive durability and took the entire Straw Hat crew a crapload of a workout to defeat.

Post-Skip Zoro casually sliced one of these in one go taking it out, why can't he do the same to KN4 or KN6?

Originally Posted by Rikudo-Sennin

Gedo statue as well but he does not have feats. Madara,Kabuto and others can pose as a threat to Luffy

Elephant Gun>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gedo Mazo

Madara has some hax but in all honesty I do not see him beating Luffy. He needs to demonstrate more otherwise it's all just conjecture.

As for Kabuto the only massively impressive thing he's even shown is Edo Tensei, which requires prep to use to the extent he has for the war. In a straight up fight he's not beating Luffy.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Rikudo-Sennin

Gedo statue as well but he does not have feats. Madara,Kabuto and others can pose as a threat to Luffy

Apart from Soul Sucking Dragons and overpowering Giant Butterfly Mode Chouji and Chouza.

Or how about effortlessly stopping Kitsuchi's Mountain Sandwich.

Beams from it's back.

Having the Chakra from Shukaku to Nanabi and some from the Hachibi.

No feats?The hell are you on?

[Uchiha Sora]

Originally Posted by Rikudo-Sennin

You CANNOT cut naruto when he is 4-6 tails probably 8 tails as well

....and why not..? Maybe Naruto characters can't. But people with wtfamazing strength like Zoro can.
All he is made of is fur/chakra/skin/bones. Zoro has cut things way more durable than all of those. i.e steel,slicing tidal waves,pacifistas,tekkai users...
I don't even remember how big the 8 tailed form is but ur probably right on that one.

[Rikudo-Sennin]

Originally Posted by Amano Yukiteru

No limits fallacy.

8 Tails I can understand but as far as I can tell Zoro's feats of cutting are far above KN4 or KN6 durability.

As far as I know Pacifistas have shown much more impressive durability and took the entire Straw Hat crew a crapload of a workout to defeat.

Post-Skip Zoro casually sliced one of these in one go taking it out, why can't he do the same to KN4 or KN6?



Elephant Gun>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gedo Mazo

Madara has some hax but in all honesty I do not see him beating Luffy. He needs to demonstrate more otherwise it's all just conjecture.

As for Kabuto the only massively impressive thing he's even shown is Edo Tensei, which requires prep to use to the extent he has for the war. In a straight up fight he's not beating Luffy.

The Elephant Gun would hardly do much considering The Gedo tanked Choji's enhanced butterfly bullet and Choza's attacks. I don't see luffy taking gim down since the Gedo can roar and it would be over

[Rikudo-Sennin]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Apart from Soul Sucking Dragons and overpowering Giant Butterfly Mode Chouji and Chouza.

Or how about effortlessly stopping Kitsuchi's Mountain Sandwich.

Beams from it's back.

Having the Chakra from Shukaku to Nanabi and some from the Hachibi.

No feats?The hell are you on?

I was talking about speed.

[Rikudo-Sennin]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Sora

....and why not..? Maybe Naruto characters can't. But people with wtfamazing strength like Zoro can.
All he is made of is fur/chakra/skin/bones. Zoro has cut things way more durable than all of those. i.e steel,slicing tidal waves,pacifistas,tekkai users...
I don't even remember how big the 8 tailed form is but ur probably right on that one.

You know why ? Because the Kyuubi shroud could not get pierced or cut. Orochimaru's sword of Kusangi is a legendary sword can cut through almost anything, Enma who was able to transform into a diamond hard staff said him self it would still be able to harm him yet it would not even scratch the kyuubi shroud

[Amano Yukiteru]

Originally Posted by Rikudo-Sennin

The Elephant Gun would hardly do much considering The Gedo tanked Choji's enhanced butterfly bullet and Choza's attacks. I don't see luffy taking gim down since the Gedo can roar and it would be over

Are you seriously comparing Butterfly Chouji to Luffy?

I hope you realize that Pre-Skip Luffy was punching down city blocks and Post-Skip Luffy is much, much stronger than that.

And lol at Gedo roaring soloing Luffy when even Chouji has lived to tell the tale. You are heavily overestimating One Piece and I hate to say it because generally it is a really ignorant thing to say, but I really don't believe you understand the OP characters you are debating with, otherwise you would give Luffy a lot more credit than you are right now.

Originally Posted by Rikudo-Sennin

You know why ? Because the Kyuubi shroud could not get pierced or cut. Orochimaru's sword of Kusangi is a legendary sword can cut through almost anything, Enma who was able to transform into a diamond hard staff said him self it would still be able to harm him yet it would not even scratch the kyuubi shroud

Problem is that Kusanagi is a good sword and all but the swordsman just cannot compare to Zoro. Zoro has much more strength, skill, speed, and experience when it comes to swordsmanship than Oro or really any Naruto character. The fact that Kaku was able to knock down a tower with his attack and Zoro was able to outmatch that power hundreds of chapters ago makes me doubt that KN6 can tank attacks as easily as you claim.

And word of mouth does not always mean anything, "diamond hard" is not something to necessarily be taken literally because it is a metaphor to describe the strength of it. Unless, of course, you have the proof to back it up barring character statements and metaphors here.

[Leafy]

Originally Posted by Rikudo-Sennin

This is not about Zoro vs 6 tails. But Im sure 6 tails would win since swords can't pierce him or cut him while naruto in kyuubi can slice him in half with one swing. If you want to argue this make a thread about it

I don't have to, It's all in the facts.

[Rikudo-Sennin]

Originally Posted by Amano Yukiteru

Are you seriously comparing Butterfly Chouji to Luffy?

I hope you realize that Pre-Skip Luffy was punching down city blocks and Post-Skip Luffy is much, much stronger than that.

And lol at Gedo roaring soloing Luffy when even Chouji has lived to tell the tale. You are heavily overestimating One Piece and I hate to say it because generally it is a really ignorant thing to say, but I really don't believe you understand the OP characters you are debating with, otherwise you would give Luffy a lot more credit than you are right now.



Problem is that Kusanagi is a good sword and all but the swordsman just cannot compare to Zoro. Zoro has much more strength, skill, speed, and experience when it comes to swordsmanship than Oro or really any Naruto character. The fact that Kaku was able to knock down a tower with his attack and Zoro was able to outmatch that power hundreds of chapters ago makes me doubt that KN6 can tank attacks as easily as you claim.

And word of mouth does not always mean anything, "diamond hard" is not something to necessarily be taken literally because it is a metaphor to describe the strength of it. Unless, of course, you have the proof to back it up barring character statements and metaphors here.

I know Luffy would own Choji. I'am saying he tanked powerful hits. Gedo stopped the mountain sandwhich attack with ease.

I may be underestimating Op characters but I don't believe I am. Choji was in his expansion mode so he was large enough to not get caught in its full blast as Luffy would in since his size. Luffy may survive but the Gedo can still spam with its chakra beams.


The KN6 can tank attacks since almighty push was a joke to him. Again its shroud could not get harmed from weapons such as knives,swords etc.KN4 withstood a giant boulder close to the size of a city block if my memory serves me right being dropped on him and didn't flinch.

[Rikudo-Sennin]

Originally Posted by leaf777

I don't have to, It's all in the facts.

You haven't given any facts

[Amano Yukiteru]

Originally Posted by Rikudo-Sennin

I know Luffy would own Choji. I'am saying he tanked powerful hits. Gedo stopped the mountain sandwhich attack with ease.

I may be underestimating Op characters but I don't believe I am. Choji was in his expansion mode so he was large enough to not get caught in its full blast as Luffy would in since his size. Luffy may survive but the Gedo can still spam with its chakra beams.


The KN6 can tank attacks since almighty push was a joke to him. Again its shroud could not get harmed from weapons such as knives,swords etc.KN4 withstood a giant boulder close to the size of a city block if my memory serves me right being dropped on him and didn't flinch.

Gedo has shown impressive strength feats but I'd be willing to bet that Luffy could match that strength at full power. Plus as you said yourself, Gedo is lacking in speed feats. It is possible that Gedo could be above Luffy's level if only due to its nature but who knows, from what we saw alone I don't believe so but if it has enough Bijuu chakra then I suppose it can be stronger than Luffy. Though the Gedo statue has shown potential to be leagues above the majority of Naruto characters anyway.

Well KN6 was able to deal with Shinra Tensei because it dug its tails into the ground to withstand it and KN6 is known for strength so that's the reason why Shinra Tensei didn't own it, plus it was able to send it back as well. KN6 still hasn't really shown much when it comes to actual durability, just pure on strength.

I don't recall KN4 ever tanking anything giant boulder related, maybe I'm just forgetting his feats or perhaps it was filler but I don't know of this happening.