goku ss2 vs broly legendary super sayain

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by USSJ

your on a thread about broly and talking about non canon as if it doesnt count?

because the character we're discussing opposing Brolli is decidedly canon using the bardock special feats which massively contradict the manga showings...is about as valid as using our worlds at war for superman

[USSJ]

Broly is non canon, but we have to use his feats, which are non canon, but using feats that are non canon for other chracters is stupid

theres no way you can just match non canon against canon. it doesnt work. the rules and powerscaling for the anime and movies are totally different to the manga.

Frieza has non canon feats from Bardock: Father of Goku, which don't count.

like? i see nothing that he did in bardock father of goku that he didnt do in the manga. and how does non canon not count? its part of the universe, but in a different "dimension". its impossible to powerscale broly using canon vs non canon. use anime version of ssj2 goku or none at all.
and if your so against "non canon not counting" then dont post in the thread.

[USSJ]

yea he was, toei has forgotten sparks on ssj2's more than once. and of course gohan had 2 diff hairstyles in that movie

no he wasnt. toei never forgot sparks at the time movie 10 was made. dont you think its strange they remembered sparks in movies 9 and 12 but theres not a shred of sparks in movie 10? dont you think its odd gohan had two hairstyles that kept flunctuating, even though he should be almost completely tired and out of ki by the end beamstruggle and therefore unable to keep switching ssj2 to ssj1? dont you think its strange that gohan had the identical hair to when he fought dabura who did have sparks in his fire attack, but not in gohan's aura? because hes ssj1. backed up when broly is defeated by three ssj1s, two of them tired and half dead. when he should be able to crush them like bugs after beating supposedly ssj2 gohan.

[Axe]

Broly will win if Goku is alone.
Goku required the energy from every single one of his friends including Vegeta and he still didn't manage to kill Broly.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by USSJ

no he wasnt. toei never forgot sparks at the time movie 10 was made. dont you think its strange they remembered sparks in movies 9 and 12 but theres not a shred of sparks in movie 10? dont you think its odd gohan had two hairstyles that kept flunctuating, even though he should be almost completely tired and out of ki by the end beamstruggle and therefore unable to keep switching ssj2 to ssj1? dont you think its strange that gohan had the identical hair to when he fought dabura who did have sparks in his fire attack, but not in gohan's aura? because hes ssj1. backed up when broly is defeated by three ssj1s, two of them tired and half dead. when he should be able to crush them like bugs after beating supposedly ssj2 gohan.

are you one of those retards who think its completey unacceptaple that they forgot sparks in movie 10 but its completely fine that they forgot them in movie 13? thats called bais my good sir.

and no gohans hair was ssj1 during the kamehameha and ssj2 during the rest of the movie, the reason broly lost is just like the first time he lost, extreme pis.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by cnorwood

are you one of those retards who think its completey unacceptaple that they forgot sparks in movie 10 but its completely fine that they forgot them in movie 13? thats called bais my good sir.

and no gohans hair was ssj1 during the kamehameha and ssj2 during the rest of the movie, the reason broly lost is just like the first time he lost, extreme pis.

you might recognize him I'm pretty sure he's the guy who invaded the OBD and MF to bawww about how much we're biased and underestimated GT and stuff and quickly got red rep..then ran away- their arguments are so similar

[The 1st Hokage]

Originally Posted by USSJ

theres no way you can just match non canon against canon. it doesnt work. the rules and powerscaling for the anime and movies are totally different to the manga.

like? i see nothing that he did in bardock father of goku that he didnt do in the manga. and how does non canon not count? its part of the universe, but in a different "dimension". its impossible to powerscale broly using canon vs non canon. use anime version of ssj2 goku or none at all.
and if your so against "non canon not counting" then dont post in the thread.

In Bardock, Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta. Not by destroying the core, but with 1 big blast, he destroyed the whole planet, all in first form. Sounds a little bit stronger than Manga Frieza.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by The 1st Hokage

In Bardock, Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta. Not by destroying the core, but with 1 big blast, he destroyed the whole planet, all in first form. Sounds a little bit stronger than Manga Frieza.

since your a mod and your present I'm officially pulling the Spiderman vs Firelord exemption and request an official rulling to declare the bardock special invalid for evidentiary purposes due to massively inconsistent high end showings.

although by the sound of your post i dun have too

[Noctis Arashi]

Yeah, Final Form Frieza didn't even do that. And he LITERALLY SAID, I'm going to destroy the planet, and I can breath in space.

And he just destroyed the core. Kinda. Actually, he disrupted it, and the planet blew itself up.

And this took a while in DBZ time.

MEANWHILE. First form frieza destroyed a larger planet vegeta in seconds.

Inconsistency's generally mean non-cannon.

[Lord Jiraiya]

Can Broly not just destroy the planet and kill Goku? Goku cant live in space Broly can right?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by Lord Jiraiya

Can Broly not just destroy the planet and kill Goku? Goku cant live in space Broly can right?

I think he can sustain himself for awhile and move himself through space..but the guy still needs to eat and sleep and isn't capable of super luminal travel with out aid so

[LovelyPuppy]

lol,broly has infinite power he solos dbz

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by LovelyPuppy

lol,broly has infinite power he solos dbz

so which mod unbanned this clown?

[LovelyPuppy]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

so which mod unbanned this clown?

a ban i didnt deserve and what does it have to do with this thread,nothing stop going off topic

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by LovelyPuppy

a ban i didnt deserve and what does it have to do with this thread,nothing stop going off topic

a ban you absolutely deserved and apparently has been reinstated

[NBT]

Originally Posted by The 1st Hokage

In Bardock, Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta. Not by destroying the core, but with 1 big blast, he destroyed the whole planet, all in first form. Sounds a little bit stronger than Manga Frieza.

But wasn't it confirmed that he did indeed destroy Planet Vegeta,althouhg it wasn't shown how?

Oh and what does Frieza have to do with this anyway?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by NBT

But wasn't it confirmed that he did indeed destroy Planet Vegeta,althouhg it wasn't shown how?

Oh and what does Frieza have to do with this anyway?

it was shown in the special..but the mere fact that he one shot it in his first form so easily completely nullifies it's use as valid evidence in debates due to it contradicting the manga and the fact that even the strongest incarnation of Freiza did not planet bust..he literally had to let physics do it for him.

it's being brought up because ultimate combatant thinks it's a valid showing even though it isn't due to being massively inconsistent with the series consistent showings.

well the other guy USSJ might think it's valid way to claim SS2 goku should be capable of the same destruction as Brolli he has on other forums among other things claimed the gt statement about Shenron being a universe buster is legit and valid as is the statement about cell despite both being massive hyperbole and not supported by feats so it wouldn't surprise me if he stooped so low here as to attempt to use some anime special that two mods no less have just ruled inadmissible as valid evidence

basically going by the manga the highest canon for the series and the only thing that is allowed for feats for ss2 goku due it being default we have absolutely no way of knowing how Freiza destroyed the saiyan home world..he could of burned off the amtosphere leveled a continent spewing deadly ash and radiation into the air the Saiyans couldn't hope to survive or simply turned into his final form cored it and left (no one alive ever saw that form..this wouldn't contradict that since all the saiyans would be dead) really there are allow of ways

he could of dropped the moon on the planet as well

[Tsubaki Steve,]

Maybe if he positioned his ship in front of the nearest star and hid that he was creating a massive supernova he could have done it in his first form but it's pretty unlikely
It just annoys me how the saiyans got beat so easily not to mention the fact that there's no way any of them were even nearly as strong as Frieza

Anyway that's going off point isn't it?

I think realistically(as in not just Goku win because he is the hero) Broly would win/I would want him to
It's debatable whether his power rises constantly or not but with a unique and crazy form like Legendary Super Saiyan I don't see why not it is a "Legendary" form of Super Saiyan
But failing that he is incredibly durable and for whatever reason Gohan was SSJ in that film which should make it after the ROSAT training and Broly was definitely 2x or more stronger than him putting him at SSJ2 levels

That plus the benefits of the Legendary SuperSaiyan transformation would give him the win imo

[USSJ]

extreme pis.

fanboy excuse = PIS.

And he LITERALLY SAID, I'm going to destroy the planet, and I can breath in space.

He also said hes invincible and the strongest in the universe...

Inconsistency's generally mean non-cannon.

Are you saying the dbz manga has no inconsistencies?

massive hyperbole and not supported by feats'

your opinion. prove its hyperbole. and since when does feats really come into play in dbz? if you really want to go down the road of poor feats and hyperbole, then i guess freeza is stronger than android 17. again going just by feats.

if he stooped so low here

im not the one stooping low here. at least i didn't call dragonball gt fanmade.

and i find it hilarious we are arguing about canonicity in a BROLY THREAD.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Taijukage you are a pathetic coward you could have responded to this in any time in the last several months that you were trolling the OBD with your lies and nonsense and you wait several months to come back and revive this

despicable! Moses Morrison has more integrity then you for christs sake

also DBZ is beholden to the standards of all fictions meaning Feats trump statements *period* no exceptions god this was stupid on your behalf

seriously just retire from vs debating this stunt is reprehensible