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Old 07-22-2011, 07:07 AM   #41
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So he's just going to rotate forever and ever.

It uses up a lot of chakra sooner or later he will be vunerable.
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Because he has unlimited chakra?

In Neji Vs Kidomaru, it's clear that Neji was running out of chakra, and for the most part, all he did was rotate. I believe he rotated no more than like 5 times.
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Once he stops it's over.
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Or it's over even while he's doing it.

Neji's Rotation was barely able to redirect Kidomaru's attacks, despite a bunch of dumb Kunai.

And you're saying that it could tank a Rasengan that was basically able to take out Kabuto in its early stages, plus the upgrades, times six?
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Because he has unlimited chakra?

In Neji Vs Kidomaru, it's clear that Neji was running out of chakra, and for the most part, all he did was rotate. I believe he rotated no more than like 5 times.
Twice in 194.
Nothing more.
That is Rotation in terms of jutsu.

The rest were just little spins not a Jutsu.
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Even better for me. He's got that much less stamina.
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Or it's over even while he's doing it.

Neji's Rotation was barely able to redirect Kidomaru's attacks, despite a bunch of dumb Kunai.

And you're saying that it could tank a Rasengan that was basically able to take out Kabuto in its early stages, plus the upgrades, times six?
No but it stopped because of the web and the substance of Kunai correct?

Yea I also stated earlier to mega is that Rasen Shuriken that got through Kakuzu's tough skin and killed 2 of his hearts.

The Rasenshuriken creates countless microscopic wind-blades It produces so many individual strikes that even Kakashi is unable to count them all with his Sharingan. I'm pretty sure his wind rotation within Rasen Shuriken counters Neji's rotation but I could be wrong.

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Twice in 194.
Nothing more.
That is Rotation in terms of jutsu.

The rest were just little spins not a Jutsu.
True and Naruto countered with pure Chakra of Vermillion when he fought Neji in the Chunin exams.
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Because he has unlimited chakra?

In Neji Vs Kidomaru, it's clear that Neji was running out of chakra, and for the most part, all he did was rotate. I believe he rotated no more than like 5 times.
Just like Naruto?

He only rotated two times. once against the kunai and again against the spiders.

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Neji's Rotation was barely able to redirect Kidomaru's attacks, despite a bunch of dumb Kunai.

And you're saying that it could tank a Rasengan that was basically able to take out Kabuto in its early stages, plus the upgrades, times six?
All Kidomaru did to counter Rotation was put webbing on Neji. The chakra canceled each other out.

With Kaiten, if Naruto were to attack with Rasengan, the pull and speed of the Rotation would deminish the focus of Naruto's attack. And in the event that it penetrates the actual shell of Kaiten, Naruto still cannot reach him. I will elaborate. The reason is because of the rotation itself. If an object pierces the surface of a powerful object that is constantly rotating, the penetrated point will be instantly replaced by the material of that object. The penetrated point cannot be maintained, as that area would be immediately relocated. The chakra of any given point in Kaiten is constantly changing and regenerating. In order to competely pierce such a jutsu, the attacker must produce a force that can directly counter or disrupt the rotation. Rasengan cannot produce this effect.

And Neji can just use a massive Kaiten to take them all out, like Hiashi did. And it wasn't even a fully powered one. Chapter 137 page 9.

Or just dodge them all easily.
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Just like Naruto?

He only rotated two times. once against the kunai and again against the spiders.
Which means he has even less stamina than I previously believed. Thank you, for proving my point.

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Yea I also stated earlier to mega is that Rasen Shuriken that got through Kakuzu's tough skin and killed 2 of his hearts.

The Rasenshuriken creates countless microscopic wind-blades It produces so many individual strikes that even Kakashi is unable to count them all with his Sharingan. I'm pretty sure his wind rotation within Rasen Shuriken counters Neji's rotation but I could be wrong.
So? You just disregarded my statement and basically gave me a random fact. This leads me to believe that you have no counter for my argument.

You lost me, because that's what I'm saying.
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Which means he has even less stamina than I previously believed. Thank you, for proving my point.



So? You just disregarded my statement and basically gave me a random fact. This leads me to believe that you have no counter for my argument.

You lost me, because that's what I'm saying.

I'm not against you I'm against Mega read the previous posts

I'm saying Naruto wins.
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I know, and I am too. Read my previous posts. :P
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Which means he has even less stamina than I previously believed. Thank you, for proving my point.
he must have a bunch of stamina to survive 6 kunai in him. And an arrow.

No one countered my other statement so I guess everyone agrees.
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he must have a bunch of stamina to survive 6 kunai in him. And an arrow.
for ninja thats like...average.
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Then why did PTS Sasuke die when he got hit by needles.
He was barraged by needles several times with someone who knew exactly where to hit you with on needle to kill you. Not to mention PTS Sasuke<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<TS Naruto.
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1)Sasuke from like, what the first Arc?His first mission mission above D rank?
2)There were needles all over his body and blood splashed around Sasuke
3)That should have been Sasuke's first time being injured like that, so naturally his body would not be used to that pain
4)Haku is a fricking genius when it comes to senbon
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Then why did PTS Sasuke die when he got hit by needles.

Haku is a special Case due to being an Expert in Physiology and Acupuncture and was capable of spamming Senbon in Crystal Ice Mirrors.
A fighting Style that throughout the Manga (Naruto) History is easily one of the deadliest.
Look at what he did to Zabuza with only 2 Senbon.
And Haku never even went all out.

And Sasuke died?
Weird.Must Kyokasuigetsu getting to me for seeing him nowadays.
Damn you Kuboshima!
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Haku is a special Case due to being an Expert in Physiology and Acupuncture and was capable of spamming Senbon in Crystal Ice Mirrors.
A fighting Style that throughout the Manga (Naruto) History is easily one of the deadliest.
Look at what he did to Zabuza with only 2 Senbon.
And Haku never even went all out.

And Sasuke died?
Weird.Must Kyokasuigetsu getting to me for seeing him nowadays.
Damn you Kuboshima!

If thats the case he Killed Zabuza too then revived him which was technically true even though Zabuza stopped his own heart. xD

Yea he was too Soft.

Yea Vivi Sasuke's spirit lives on duh you didn't know?

Anyways Mega dude you can't use PTS examples like that it doesn't even make things fair. Bad ones especially that just doesn't make sense.
That was the beginning of the show he had nothing but fire style.
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So Mega is wanking Neji again?

Against base naruto too... Using Neji in PTS killing like 20 clones who couldnt touch him (neglecting to note that Naruto outsmarted him in that match).

Then comes rotation which Neji wouldnt be able to keep up for more than 5 minutes due to the vaccum effect going on inside taking away all of the oxygen.

Meanwhile he is trying to compare Neji's chakra which couldnt even keep byakugan on all night (hinata could though) to Naruto with fox chakra.

Then saying that 6 kunai and an arrow is impressive when Neji himself nearly died (tsunade heals ftw) when in the first chapter Iruka took a giant windmill to the spine (it was pretty dug-in too) and just shrugged it off enough to rip it out of himself and chuck it at Mizuki. I'm pretty sure Nins take hits like 6 kunai all the time (hell naruto just plain stabbed himself with one in PTS as well to get the poison out).

Also how is 64 palms going to affect naruto? By the time Neji activates byakugan Naruto has enough clones to work with (20 in PTS, we can assume he can make at least 100 if necessary but just 20 will be enough). Neji already cant tell which is which due to the PTS fight showing the uselessness of byakugan against shadow clones, add in also the factor of Naruto knowing about rotation and 64 palms and 64 being trumped by fox chakra.
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:22 PM   #60
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Default Re: Neji VS Naruto

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So Mega is wanking Neji again?
If anyone is wanking, it's you.

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Against base naruto too... Using Neji in PTS killing like 20 clones who couldnt touch him (neglecting to note that Naruto outsmarted him in that match).
Which is exactly why Naruto can't possibly win. Naruto outsmarting him was PnJ.

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Then comes rotation which Neji wouldnt be able to keep up for more than 5 minutes due to the vaccum effect going on inside taking away all of the oxygen.
Proof of this? It was never stated even by Tenten or Kidomaru.

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Meanwhile he is trying to compare Neji's chakra which couldnt even keep byakugan on all night (hinata could though) to Naruto with fox chakra.
Fox chakra that gets blocked by 64 palms.

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Then saying that 6 kunai and an arrow is impressive when Neji himself nearly died (tsunade heals ftw) when in the first chapter Iruka took a giant windmill to the spine (it was pretty dug-in too) and just shrugged it off enough to rip it out of himself and chuck it at Mizuki. I'm pretty sure Nins take hits like 6 kunai all the time (hell naruto just plain stabbed himself with one in PTS as well to get the poison out).
A fuma shuriken is nothing compared to 6 kunais plus a transonic arrow. He took all that and was still alive, despite being heavily injured.

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Also how is 64 palms going to affect naruto? By the time Neji activates byakugan Naruto has enough clones to work with (20 in PTS, we can assume he can make at least 100 if necessary but just 20 will be enough). Neji already cant tell which is which due to the PTS fight showing the uselessness of byakugan against shadow clones, add in also the factor of Naruto knowing about rotation and 64 palms and 64 being trumped by fox chakra.
And what's stopping Neji from simply dodging them all just like he did then?
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