Bleach 457

[mrsticky005]

Originally Posted by Wooster

I guess.

I don't think he is dead. Remember Orihime? He is just on the other side now.

I don't think Ginjo was cut with Tsukishima's Book of the End fullbring

I think he was just cut.

But that doesn't necessarily mean he's dead...I mean this IS Bleach.

Still I think just the fact that Ginjo is a character I actually rather
not die probably lessens his chances of not dieing. Basically at
this point I don't care a whole lot about any other characters but
Ichigo and Ginjo living. Why those two? Because Ichigo is the
main character and Ginjo is a good foil for him. They balance out.

[Vivi]

Watch it happen Ginjou is as dead as Aizen was first thought to be.

[Noctis Arashi]

I personally think that everyone was in on it (kinda) And afterward, they'll all be alive and be like; "CONGRATS, you got your powers back!"

That's my theory.

[mrsticky005]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Watch it happen Ginjou is as dead as Aizen was first thought to be.

Ginjou "Fear Impalement is necessary for evolution. The fear that one could be destroyed impaled at any moment. Thank you, Gin Tsukishima. Thanks to your efforts stabbing, I have finally risen to an existence that surpasses both Shinigami Fullbring and Hollow Ramen.

[Vivi]

On another note I just realized what a scary ability Tsukishima's Fullbring is.

1st:
In order to defeat the opponent he doesn't even need to attack them.
By manipulating the close ones he can practically create a little Army that turn on the opposition.

2nd:
Due to the close ones being manipulated the opposition is mentally damaged.
"I can't fight against my Friends!"

3rd:
Due to Tsukishima having them manipulated one would wonder:
"If I kill him will the effect be ceased?What if not?"
Thus one remains unable to truly know what to do.

4th:
If attempting to kill Tsukishima the close ones will think you're a lunatic thus
damaging ones mental state even more.

5th:
Killing Tsukishima is arguable.
He's the only one who knows how to break the effect.
Kill him and it stops or maybe not?
Once again food for the already messed up head.

6th:
As we noticed already the ones being manipulated even go as far as to protect Tsukishima.
Basically your BOUND to fight them.

I might come up with more later though I think I made clear 1 thing.
Book of the End is one if not THE most scary ability in Bleach.
Perhaps even among all Shounen Manga currently.

It's an utter mind breaker that makes an opponent appear near hopelessly lost.
Mentally as well as Physically.

[Inuyasha]

He's more hacks then Aizen now

[deidara330]

@Inuyasha: Hax.

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

Let me put it this way. I don't think Fullbringers are "filler" as some
like to think. I think they're going to be a pretty big part of the
Bleach story. And I think they're going to far more than just
getting Ichigo his powers back.

It's sorta like how the Vizards just seemed like they were another
training arc but were actually a pretty big part as they have
their history with Aizen and they are part of the reason why
Urahara is banished to the human world.

Fullbring will be like that but quite possibly even more so.

Well of course the Royal Guard would be full of powerhouses...

It's the Royal Guard.

The way I see it, all of the Fullbringers in this arc have to survive on to the next, because otherwise their powers are wasted.

Riruka's Dollhouse lets her transfer objects into anything she finds cute. So there'll probably come a time where she transfers something into Ichigo himself. She also has the Love Gun, the effect of which is still unknown.

Giriko's Time Tells No Lies allows him to place Timers with set conditions. Yet so far we've only seen two Timers in action and one combat usage. The Timer ability is something you can definitely take anywhere as long as you can think hard about how to stretch its effects. Plus, as long as there's no rule that says you can only have one Fullbring, I'm open to Giriko using his eyepatch-cloth as a Fullbring.

Jackie's Dirty Boots have an ability that's clear-cut, but the dirtying of the boots is actually something that can be put to use. Among the things mentioned were sand and blood. Sand = Hueco Mundo. If we assume Jackie's powers have no limit she could take any Arrancar after spending a long enough time in Hueco Mundo. Then blood. The reason that's important is because it could lead to Jackie causing herself to bleed to speed up the process of dirtying as a form of self-sacrifice. Besides that, there are places like the Soul Society where I'm not entirely sure "dirt" exists.

Yukio's Invaders-Must-Die actually doesn't seem like it has too many possibilities. But, it's still got effects that can be put to use in other situations, and the fact that Yukio can control anyone in his game is something we've yet to see. Plus, there's probably more ways he can manipulate the inside of his game we don't know about, because there are all types of forms a game can take.

Chad's Brazo Derecha de Higante and Brazo Izquierda del Diablo are both already powerful. However, Chad's Fullbring is his "skin". If that's so, I imagine Chad's Fullbring can still evolve since Chad has skin on his entire body as opposed to just his arms. A full-body Fullbring transformation could possibly give him a huge boost in power.

Even though they all want to be rid of their powers, I think it'd be a waste of potential if they were removed so early. Perhaps Urahara's plan prevents them from being able to do that. If this is like the Visored training arc, then this part of the larger arc - The Lost Substitute Shinigami - is just the prelude to something huge. Although, in contrast to back then, the arc centering on Xcution's backstory comes at the beginning rather than the end. Of course, Tsukishima could always remain a villain in the story.

Some people have also been upset in this arc with the lack of considerably long fights that made up almost the entire previous arc. Well, I think it's because this arc was to exposition the Fullbringers' powers so they could be expanded later. Fights can only last so long before they go stale, and to extend the life of a fight in the manga, you have to have characters on both sides reveal new abilities or use old abilities in new ways. In the last arc, the Cero was a favorite of fighters, but there were tons of variations, such as the Gran Rey Cero or simply being able to shoot a Cero from one's tongue. The Fullbringers will all expand their abilities in a similar way.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Inuyasha

He's more hacks then Aizen now

I wouldn't go that far.

Tsukishima needs to strike others to manipulate People.

Meanwhile Aizen manipulates the senses just by others seeing Kyoka Suigetsu released with a non-ceasing effect.

Though I say Tsukishima is the bigger Troll by actually making People believe he defeated Aizen.
Oh the Edit Thread on NF by finding out his Ability.
Tsukishima as Jesus at the last Supper.
Tsukishima = Kubo = Kuboshima
Tsukishima defeated Ulquiorra.
Tsukishima with Death Note.
That thread was Godly.XDD

[deidara330]

I honestly think as long as you have Kon, problem solved. Fullbring is a power of the physical body, so just have Kon replace Tsukishima's soul inside his body and then use Tsukishima's Fullbring to remove the bookmarks. The only problem with it is that Kon is gone.

[Inuyasha]

Originally Posted by Vivi

I wouldn't go that far.

Tsukishima needs to strike others to manipulate People.

Meanwhile Aizen manipulates the senses just by others seeing Kyoka Suigetsu released with a non-ceasing effect.

Though I say Tsukishima is the bigger Troll by actually making People believe he defeated Aizen.
Oh the Edit Thread on NF by finding out his Ability.
Tsukishima as Jesus at the last Supper.
Tsukishima = Kubo = Kuboshima
Tsukishima defeated Ulquiorra.
Tsukishima with Death Note.
That thread was Godly.XDD

True but by inserting himself int into their lives he manipulated more so then Aizen did with Momo Tsukishima made himself apart of Ichigo's family and like you said made him the deciding factor in those fights. He's almost a bigger ally to their friends then Ichigo in that way
While Aizen's case with the original Gotei 13 with Shinji did have suspicions about Aizen.

But yes Tsukishima certainly is an powerful and interesting character.

[Inuyasha]

Originally Posted by deidara330

I honestly think as long as you have Kon, problem solved. Fullbring is a power of the physical body, so just have Kon replace Tsukishima's soul inside his body and then use Tsukishima's Fullbring to remove the bookmarks. The only problem with it is that Kon is gone.

Clever idea,

But I highly doubt Ichigo would ever think of that especially now in his crazy state of mind.

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by Inuyasha

Clever idea, but I highly doubt Ichigo would think of that especially now in his crazy state of mind.

You're right, but you know who would? Uryu. I just remembered something that I've overlooked about him. Orihime went to visit Uryu and told him about her attacker. If Orihime did tell him everything she knows, then he knows that his attacker's name is Tsukishima and his ability is a Fullbring which he calls "Book of the End". As long as he can compare it to Chad's power he can build off what he already knows to help Ichigo. He may not have the same idea I have, but he's probably reached some conclusion that doesn't involve Ichigo killing Tsukishima and losing everyone he sought to protect.

[Inuyasha]

Originally Posted by deidara330

You're right, but you know who would? Uryu. I just remembered something that I've overlooked about him. Orihime went to visit Uryu and told him about her attacker. If Orihime did tell him everything she knows, then he knows that his attacker's name is Tsukishima and his ability is a Fullbring which he calls "Book of the End". As long as he can compare it to Chad's power he can build off what he already knows to help Ichigo.

He was first to be attacked do you think he'll be on Ichigo's side?
We never saw him get cut by Tsukishima but he was injured.
He's on his way somewhere hopefully he'll have some ideas.

And I'm still waiting for Urahara and Isshin and Mystery person to arrive.

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by Inuyasha

He was first to be attacked do you think he'll be on Ichigo's side?
We never saw him get cut by Tsukishima but he was injured.
He's on his way somewhere hopefully he'll have some ideas.

And I'm still waiting for Urahara and Isshin and Mystery person to arrive.

If he were affected by Tsukishima he'd already be at the manor with everyone else. It looks like he's been affected differently somehow. Maybe Tsukishima didn't even have his Fullbring completed at that time.

Uryu'll probably get there before they do since they seem to be a lot more casual than him. But yeah, they're definitely going to change the entire situation when they arrive. I personally think the mystery person is Karin.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Inuyasha

And I'm still waiting for Urahara and Isshin and Mystery person to arrive.

Quite certain the mysterious Shinigami is back in SS considering Isshin and Urahara have been walking alone with that Zanpaktou and IIRC,
it was even named 2 Man under the Moonlight or in that likes.

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Quite certain the mysterious Shinigami is back in SS considering Isshin and Urahara have been walking alone with that Zanpaktou and IIRC,
it was even named 2 Man under the Moonlight or in that likes.

I don't think so. I think the Soul Reaper is Karin because at the beginning of this arc Karin said it was her turn to protect Ichigo. So far she hasn't done anything, so unless the author will simply let that statement go to waste, she was probably the one to give Urahara her Reiatsu. It explains why she's not there, because if she already gave her Reiatsu to them then they would've allowed Tsukishima to bookmark her since her cooperation was no longer necessary.

[Inuyasha]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Quite certain the mysterious Shinigami is back in SS considering Isshin and Urahara have been walking alone with that Zanpaktou and IIRC,
it was even named 2 Man under the Moonlight or in that likes.

Maybe I'll have to re-read that.

Oh well we'll wait and see.

Originally Posted by deidara330

I don't think so. I think the Soul Reaper is Karin because at the beginning of this arc Karin said it was her turn to protect Ichigo. So far she hasn't done anything, so unless the author will simply let that statement go to waste, she was probably the one to give Urahara her Reiatsu. It explains why she's not there, because if she already gave her Reiatsu to them then they would've allowed Tsukishima to bookmark her since her cooperation was no longer necessary.

Hmmm.... good theory although I'm not too sure about that, but you maybe right.

[GaaraGirl!]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

Damn you Tsukishima! MURDER HIM ICHIGO!

Damn him to the lowest pits of hell where he belongs!!...