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Old 04-14-2011, 01:43 PM   #1
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Default Tsunade wanted Naruto to escape!

Tsunade is the one who gave the order for Iruka and company to make sure Naruto stays put. She had to know a team of that caliper could not hope to restrain him.

If you'll remember, the decision to seclude Naruto and KB on the island was made without Tsunade. When she learned of it, you could tell she wasn't happy, but the decision had already been made.
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i agree if they really did want to keep him confined they would have at least needed 1 kage tsunade is no idiot
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Well I think they were counting on Bee to not tell him where the bathroom was if you get my meaning. Anyways, I don't think Tsunade was aware that naruto can just destroy jonin level barriers with ease in his new RM, shikamaru's and shino's dad were pretty apt at the type of task at hand and iruka was the negotiator being so close to naruto. Actually if it weren't for his new power ups he probably couldn't have left nor figured it out in time. So I think it was just because no one knew that naruto would tame the kyubi and get powers no one has seen before that he was able to escape, otherwise the guard personnel made sense to me.
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I thin both Tsunade & A knew that sooner or later either Bee or Naruto is gonna want out. So why waste time putting stronger people there to restrain them?
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i agree if they really did want to keep him confined they would have at least needed 1 kage tsunade is no idiot

Nope. She's still an idiot. Naruto joining the war effort is what Madara wants.
Of course Madara is probably clever enough to capture Naruto even while
Naruto is on the island, it would be at least be more troublesome for him
to do so especially if they put some decent security on the premises.
But now with Naruto going out in the open, Madara will just swoop in and
capture him. Heck he doesn't even have to fight. He just uses Sasuke as bait. Naruto will let himself be captured. If Tsunade purposely let Naruto
go then this is just one more of her idiotic gambles on Naruto that only
ever work because he's the main character.
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^ yea. I think the intention in the story is just her faith and intuition that Naruto will prevail. Kind of a heroic leap of faith against all odds if you will.....but....in the realm of logical thinking, turning Naruto loose in battle knowing that he holds the key to making Madara all powerful would just be unforgivably stupid.
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right now i'm thinking, yes, Tsunade may have known what the outcome would be anyways...she's happy if you ask me... but if kishi makes Naruto fight in Sage mode and RS mode now, then i'll put my bet on the fact that Naruto knows and will combine the two later which will give some incredible power we haven't seen yet.
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Madara couldn't just simply take him anymorre m8. Madara is weak at this point. We havent actually seen him fight yet. We just saw him swooping around with that dimension thing so far. So i truly doubt he would be able to get naruto just like that.


I also think naruto would also be able to escape without his kyubii since he is strong only with SM aswell. I think its gonna be an interesting next few chapters.
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I guess thats true xD but no he just reminds her of her passed away bro and love or something i forgot how it was again xD
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Nope. She's still an idiot. Naruto joining the war effort is what Madara wants.
Of course Madara is probably clever enough to capture Naruto even while
Naruto is on the island, it would be at least be more troublesome for him
to do so especially if they put some decent security on the premises.
But now with Naruto going out in the open, Madara will just swoop in and
capture him. Heck he doesn't even have to fight. He just uses Sasuke as bait. Naruto will let himself be captured. If Tsunade purposely let Naruto
go then this is just one more of her idiotic gambles on Naruto that only
ever work because he's the main character.

Actually Naruto seems to have inherited his fathers teleportation jutsu and Minato used an upgraded or 2nd version of this same jutsu to wond Madra before sealing the ninetails Naruto is great with jutsu progression also Kishi dosen't show all naruto's training as he tends to train while no one is looking, Naruto has something noone is expecting!
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Actually Naruto seems to have inherited his fathers teleportation jutsu and Minato used an upgraded or 2nd version of this same jutsu to wond Madra before sealing the ninetails Naruto is great with jutsu progression also Kishi dosen't show all naruto's training as he tends to train while no one is looking, Naruto has something noone is expecting!
Ya its called Plot

You have to look at it through the characters, we all have a good idea of how its gonna play out but if you were tsunade you wouldn't know the "good guy always wins" kind of thing which is highly likely to happen here. Tsunade should have restrained naruto more even though naruto will probably be fine, she doesn't know that she could single handedly handing over the world to madara,

As for KB he knew that they were being restrained but i have a feeling now that naruto's out he'll fight too, but KB is a little bit better at not rushing to the enemy like naruto is so KB isn't as big of a worry
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Given the fact that Madara just left. I assume as sooon Naruto leaves the island, he will be able to sense him.

Actually, given that Sasuke has EMS, he might sense Naruto and go after him.

Either way, I don't see Naruto joining the war. He will be waylaid before that.
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I don't believe Tsunade wanted Naruto to escape, I think she knows that if/when he figures out whats going on, that no one can stop him. We have to consider that KB is a "perfect Jinchuriki" and that I do not believe the leaf has had one (I do not know if Kushina was just a vessel to simply hold it, or could actually use it). But not really having a measurement of his power, and understanding that even without controlling the Kyuubi that Naruto was the only one strong enough to defeat Pein, we should consider that with the added Kyuubi control, what is she going to do? what would any of them do?

I mean it is true Jonin level barriers are up, but we assume Pein had a high level barrier up as well, and Naruto could still track him in sage mode (though through chakra rods). There are a lot of variables, but I believe she knew what was inevitable in the end and that there would be little anyone could do.
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I don't believe Tsunade wanted Naruto to escape, I think she knows that if/when he figures out whats going on, that no one can stop him. We have to consider that KB is a "perfect Jinchuriki" and that I do not believe the leaf has had one (I do not know if Kushina was just a vessel to simply hold it, or could actually use it). But not really having a measurement of his power, and understanding that even without controlling the Kyuubi that Naruto was the only one strong enough to defeat Pein, we should consider that with the added Kyuubi control, what is she going to do? what would any of them do?

I mean it is true Jonin level barriers are up, but we assume Pein had a high level barrier up as well, and Naruto could still track him in sage mode (though through chakra rods). There are a lot of variables, but I believe she knew what was inevitable in the end and that there would be little anyone could do.
+1 to that...

If tsunade really wanted him to stay put she would probably need alot more of ninjas there. But that could mean weaker front battlefield lines. She couldn't risk that. She was hoping that naruto wouldn't notice but she didn't know what abilities he gained. So its out of her power...
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Nope. She's still an idiot. Naruto joining the war effort is what Madara wants.
Of course Madara is probably clever enough to capture Naruto even while
Naruto is on the island, it would be at least be more troublesome for him
to do so especially if they put some decent security on the premises.
But now with Naruto going out in the open, Madara will just swoop in and
capture him. Heck he doesn't even have to fight. He just uses Sasuke as bait. Naruto will let himself be captured. If Tsunade purposely let Naruto
go then this is just one more of her idiotic gambles on Naruto that only
ever work because he's the main character.
Irrelevant. None of the Kages or Army Commanders can hope to defeat Madara, Sasuke and Kabuto combined. Not only that, but many of the most powerful ET's haven't even fought yet. The Jinchuuriki, Chiyo, Itachi and Nagato for example. On top of that we have devastating and overwhelming forces of Zetsu clones. You and I both know that without Naruto the good side isn't winning this war. Also, Sasuke doesn't always follow Madaras orders, he's not exactly going to let himself be bait.

Sure, it may not be entirely advisable to send Naruto into war, seeing as how he is a major target of the enemy, and yes - if the enemy gets hold of Naruto, its basicly the end of the world. But in the end, the only way they are going to win is with Narutos help. Tsunades knows this too, the other Kages are obviously being intelligent in saying that he should stay away and hide through the duration of war, but they are playing it safe - which in this case is not a good idea. Tsunade does tend to take risks, but it should be quite clear that the risk she is taking here is one which will save the Ninja world.

The Kages are just like the Advisors during the Invasion of Pein. They insisted Naruto stay away and hide in Mount Myoboku. Of course, in the end - without Naruto , Konoha would cease to exist. Thats not to say the Advisors were in anyway illogical, but Tsunade knew that a man able to kill Jiraiya, and run an organisation able to kill off Jinchuuriki and take down entire nations, would not be stopped by the likes of herself or anyone in Konoha at that time. Naruto was the strongest Jinchuuriki of all, able to to utilise Sage Techniques, Giant Boss Summons, Rasengan variants and hundreds and hundreds of shadow clones. By far making him the strongest ninja within Konoha.


Regardless of anything, I think this very possible. +rep
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I think so too, I mean, Yeah Killer Bee is a strong guy but he sorta is a ditz on things, so Tsunade planned this out thoroughly and without hesitation soooo, I think that she MEANT to do that! :P
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is anybody but me surprised how fast naruto can enter Sage mode so fast now!?! Its like 2nd nature to him now, he even did it while standing talking to Iruka. He's improved quite a bit, but im confused about his new Fox mode, didnt the eight-tails tell him the risk of that mode? he keeps using it so much and why is he going out to battle if he hasnt perfected it yet, especially with such a high risk?
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Irrelevant. None of the Kages or Army Commanders can hope to defeat Madara, Sasuke and Kabuto combined. Not only that, but many of the most powerful ET's haven't even fought yet. The Jinchuuriki, Chiyo, Itachi and Nagato for example. On top of that we have devastating and overwhelming forces of Zetsu clones. You and I both know that without Naruto the good side isn't winning this war. Also, Sasuke doesn't always follow Madaras orders, he's not exactly going to let himself be bait.

Sure, it may not be entirely advisable to send Naruto into war, seeing as how he is a major target of the enemy, and yes - if the enemy gets hold of Naruto, its basicly the end of the world. But in the end, the only way they are going to win is with Narutos help. Tsunades knows this too, the other Kages are obviously being intelligent in saying that he should stay away and hide through the duration of war, but they are playing it safe - which in this case is not a good idea. Tsunade does tend to take risks, but it should be quite clear that the risk she is taking here is one which will save the Ninja world.

The Kages are just like the Advisors during the Invasion of Pein. They insisted Naruto stay away and hide in Mount Myoboku. Of course, in the end - without Naruto , Konoha would cease to exist. Thats not to say the Advisors were in anyway illogical, but Tsunade knew that a man able to kill Jiraiya, and run an organisation able to kill off Jinchuuriki and take down entire nations, would not be stopped by the likes of herself or anyone in Konoha at that time. Naruto was the strongest Jinchuuriki of all, able to to utilise Sage Techniques, Giant Boss Summons, Rasengan variants and hundreds and hundreds of shadow clones. By far making him the strongest ninja within Konoha.


Regardless of anything, I think this very possible. +rep

That's the kind of thinking that got Konoha destroyed by Pain.
Tsunade relies WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY too much on Naruto.

The Ninja Alliance is actually stronger than Madara, Sasuke and the Zetsu clones. Madara knows this and that's why he demanded that the eight
and nine tails be given to him or else he would declare war on them.
Madara was bluffing. If Madara and Sasuke and the Zetsu clones actually were strong enough to take on the whole Ninja Alliance then he wouldn't
have bothered telling them that he was gonna wage war against them
and instead would just wage war on them. But he did so to try and scare
the Kages into giving the tailed beasts. Of course Madara knew that he
would never just give up the tailed beasts and would probably just hide
them away. That is where the Zetsu clones come in. While the Alliance
is distracted and slowed down by the Zetsu clones. Madara will go hunt the Eight and Nine Tails. But with Naruto and Killer Bee being locked away
that won't be so simple for Madara which is where Sasuke comes in.
Sasuke is the bait for Naruto. Madara told Naruto that he would make
he and Sasuke fight so Naruto would try and stop Madara and that's
when Madara will capture Naruto. Also there's Black Zetsu's mission
which may be taking the Feudal Lords hostage in exchange for the
tailed beasts. Madara is doing everything he can to capture the
tailed beasts. The whole war is just a red herring and a race.
Madara races to get the tailed beasts and the Alliance races to stop him.

Now Kabuto makes things interesting. Kabuto may be giving aid to Madara but really he's just trying to play both sides. Kabuto actually makes things
worse for Madara because now he has two enemies (the same goes for the Alliance). However Madara accepts Kabuto's "help" because really he needs
all the help he can get. He needs Kabuto to distract the Alliance so he
can go hunt for the tailed beasts. As soon Madara gets the tailed beasts
he's won. Kabuto knows this and that's why he captured Yamato instead
because he's also trying to slow down Madara so that Madara and the Alliance destroy each other. And then there's also Sasuke who Madara
has to hope doesn't betray him. If Sasuke does then Madara is doomed.
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