Spoiler: Chapter 535 Discussion - Page 2

kalmeast · 04-13-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wooster

Except Sasuke has EMS. He probably will be able to take control of the Nine-Tailed Fox. -_-

I think this' been explained over and over that cant happen if the Nine-tails lives in a host. Besides naruto sealed him away with a stronger sealing jutsu than that on Kushina which madara couldn't release until it weakened...

btw...chp discussion:
all i could say was damn...this is hot!

JazzJunkie4 · 04-13-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EvL j3st3r

@Jazz.......can you say that word here? hmmmmm...I dunno. I would edit it b4 the wrong person sees.

hehe... good point. Done!

EvL j3st3r · 04-13-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kalmeast

I think this' been explained over and over that cant happen if the Nine-tails lives in a host. Besides naruto sealed him away with a stronger sealing jutsu than that on Kushina which madara couldn't release until it weakened...

btw...chp discussion:
all i could say was damn...this is hot!

Agreed. I don't see Naruto giving birth any time soon and yes....Naruto's seal is much stronger than Kushina's. Even if he could take control of the fox while it's in Naruto it would do no good. He can only manipulate it's mind not it's chakra (which Naruto owns now).

Gouldy17 · 04-13-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EvL j3st3r

Why can Naruto all of a sudden go SM without having several moments to be perfectly still? Does it have something to do with the fact that Naruto owns the Kyuubi's chakra? The Kyuubi's chakra has been shown to interact with nature to some extent after all.

if you ask me....the first few times he was using sage chakra he was playing it safe and taking it in slowly now having used it quite a few times he knows his exact limit or cut off point b4 he becomes a frog

EvL j3st3r · 04-13-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzJunkie4

hehe... good point. Done!

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Originally Posted by Gouldy17

if you ask me....the first few times he was using sage chakra he was playing it safe and taking it in slowly now having used it quite a few times he knows his exact limit or cut off point b4 he becomes a frog

I suppose that's reasonable. Still.......Pa Toad even explained that you NEED time to be perfectly still. That's why Jaraiya needed to fuse and Naruto needed his shadow clones. So..............I don't know. This would contradict Pa Toads teachings.

Phariah824 · 04-13-2011, 04:28 PM

nice and the way he sensed what was going on all over was nice. well his training this whole time he has been going in an outta transformed stated probably so he has to have gotta real good at that.

and wow. he broke out of a Iruka's seal, shadow possession, and Shino's dad's bugs couldn't penetrate his chakra field. daaaaammmmn. i cannot wait for him to super speed in and get started whoopin some butt. would like for him to stand side by side w/ Gaara against the zombie kages, also to fly in and save kakashi and see his reaction to Naruto now.

EvL j3st3r · 04-13-2011, 04:37 PM

If Kakashi has to be saved he better whoop some serious ass first.

kalmeast · 04-13-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EvL j3st3r

1. Why can Naruto all of a sudden go SM without having several moments to be perfectly still? Does it have something to do with the fact that Naruto owns the Kyuubi's chakra? The Kyuubi's chakra has been shown to interact with nature to some extent after all.

2.Also, why did Bee not pursue Naruto. He had to know he was the only one who had a chance at stopping him.

1., I'm guessing that The Amount of overall Chakra that Naruto Possesses now makes it impossible for Natural Energy to overwhelm him.

2. I'm also thinking that Kishi is ready to let Bee go...It might be his time to be captured. He has fulfilled his role in Naruto's life and the Prophesy.
It will make sense that he be captured by Sasuke in order for us to be able to measure the difference in Sasuke's strength with MS vs EMS since he fought and lost the first time.

EvL j3st3r · 04-13-2011, 05:04 PM

@Kalmeast........I'm with you all the way on number two.

Number 1 however......I think ppl are forgetting WHY you have to be perfectly still to use SM. It has nothing to do with risk to the user. You have to be perfectly still to gather natural energy period. You can't draw on natural energy if you're moving.

kalmeast · 04-13-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EvL j3st3r

@Kalmeast........I'm with you all the way on number two.

Number 1 however......I think ppl are forgetting WHY you have to be perfectly still to use SM. It has nothing to do with risk to the user. You have to be perfectly still to gather natural energy period. You can't draw on natural energy if you're moving.

That's true but not true at the same time because we have seen Naruto during the training, running and gathering Natural energy. He was able to gather very little amount. only he was turning into frog so pa had to follow him and be hitting him. In that case, the fact that it can't be done while moving is not absolute...what do you think?

JazzJunkie4 · 04-13-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kalmeast

That's true but not true at the same time because we have seen Naruto during the training, running and gathering Natural energy. He was able to gather very little amount. only he was turning into frog so pa had to follow him and be hitting him. In that case, the fact that it can't be done while moving is not absolute...what do you think?

....I'm a little confused by this. Wasn't he standing still while pondering about the animals and bee after iruka said "let's go back inside"? Assuming he has gotten better at SM, couldn't it be that he just gathered it faster then we have seen before.

kalmeast · 04-13-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzJunkie4

....I'm a little confused by this. Wasn't he standing still while pondering about the animals and bee after iruka said "let's go back inside"? Assuming he has gotten better at SM, couldn't it be that he just gathered it faster then we have seen before.

yea, i saw that...that too is possible. he was still for a moment, but it's still so fast...

also did anyone notice that Kishi has avoided showing a combination of SM + RM...he knew Naruto was gonna go RM but he had him go back into Normal before Rikoudo Mode... I wonder what he's hiding and what those Combo's would give, if any.

JazzJunkie4 · 04-13-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kalmeast

yea, i saw that...that too is possible. he was still for a moment, but it's still so fast...

also did anyone notice that Kishi has avoided showing a combination of SM + RM...he knew Naruto was gonna go RM but he had him go back into Normal before Rikoudo Mode... I wonder what he's hiding and what those Combo's would give, if any.

Well we don't know how fast it was. And yes, I was thinking the same thing about the RS-SM combo.

yokokurama · 04-13-2011, 05:25 PM

I think Iruka trying to fool Naruto into believing the animals have Kyuubi chakra was partly Kishimoto admitting the trick before about examining the animals for male/femaleness was stupid. That is all.

EvL j3st3r · 04-13-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kalmeast

That's true but not true at the same time because we have seen Naruto during the training, running and gathering Natural energy. He was able to gather very little amount. only he was turning into frog so pa had to follow him and be hitting him. In that case, the fact that it can't be done while moving is not absolute...what do you think?

Oh yea! I remember. You're talking about after Naruto figured out he couldn't fuse but before he had the shadow clone epiphany. forgot all about that. So I guess you're right. My bad.

Devroux · 04-13-2011, 06:29 PM

The chapter was really good. I like the epic pose pictures that are put in it. I get goosebumps.

Seeing Naruto escape so easily from a barrier that would have held him before he got Kyuubi under his belt was cool because it gave proof to how much stronger he had gotten.

Can't wait to see what happens when he reaches the battle field.

EroS · 04-13-2011, 07:18 PM

I must admit, I was a bit psyched at first that since Naruto went SM he may combine that with RM when not even realizing it, as he is prone to make such monumental discoveries through sheer coincidence. I do believe this will be revisited, and it will have awesome outcomes (I once posed that it could be a way to tame Kyuubi, but that does seem a bit ridiculous now as he would probably have to absorb all of the nature chakra to bring about toad qualities in the fox).

Something that popped into my mind reading all the discussion was what if, after a series of battles against ridiculous foes (say he does take out all the kages, or former jinchurikis, etc), he is summoned back to Mt Myoboku? The more he has developed and grown stronger, the further up the toad hierarchy he has gone up (Gamakichi and Gamatatsu, then Gamabunta, then Ma and Pa. This is only including those he summoned on his own, as he originally summoned Bunta but that was with the aid of Kyuubi chakra), so what if he is called back by the Great Toad Sage to be given some ultimate training or knowledge? That Toad is old as hell, it is possible old enough to date back to near the time of SoSP, as we don't know the longevity of the toads and that dude has been there seemingly forever based off comparisons with the others. Could be the missing link to Naruto going full-on SoSP mode.

narulvr · 04-13-2011, 07:19 PM

best chap since the war started! Naruto's becoming a G. the sauce wont stand a chance... but he will cuz he got kishi on his side but yea almost instant sage mode=ownage

JazzJunkie4 · 04-13-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EroS

I must admit, I was a bit psyched at first that since Naruto went SM he may combine that with RM when not even realizing it, as he is prone to make such monumental discoveries through sheer coincidence. I do believe this will be revisited, and it will have awesome outcomes (I once posed that it could be a way to tame Kyuubi, but that does seem a bit ridiculous now as he would probably have to absorb all of the nature chakra to bring about toad qualities in the fox).

Something that popped into my mind reading all the discussion was what if, after a series of battles against ridiculous foes (say he does take out all the kages, or former jinchurikis, etc), he is summoned back to Mt Myoboku? The more he has developed and grown stronger, the further up the toad hierarchy he has gone up (Gamakichi and Gamatatsu, then Gamabunta, then Ma and Pa. This is only including those he summoned on his own, as he originally summoned Bunta but that was with the aid of Kyuubi chakra), so what if he is called back by the Great Toad Sage to be given some ultimate training or knowledge? That Toad is old as hell, it is possible old enough to date back to near the time of SoSP, as we don't know the longevity of the toads and that dude has been there seemingly forever based off comparisons with the others. Could be the missing link to Naruto going full-on SoSP mode.

Well... I don't see that happening. Would be too repetitive, and naruto has done enough of that type of training for one series. Besides, since he doesn't use any chakara while in RS mode besides the RS chakara it is still uncertain whether that is even possible. It may be able to lengthen his RS longevity and amount he can use, but that's it in my opinion.

Sai's brother · 04-13-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by narulvr

best chap since the war started! Naruto's becoming a G. the sauce wont stand a chance... but he will cuz he got kishi on his side but yea almost instant sage mode=ownage

EMS + Kishi loving Sasuke = Mega Ownage XD

04-13-2011, 04:28 PM	#26
Phariah824 Chunin Exam Participant Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 845 Rep Power: 8	Re: Chapter 535 Discussion nice and the way he sensed what was going on all over was nice. well his training this whole time he has been going in an outta transformed stated probably so he has to have gotta real good at that. and wow. he broke out of a Iruka's seal, shadow possession, and Shino's dad's bugs couldn't penetrate his chakra field. daaaaammmmn. i cannot wait for him to super speed in and get started whoopin some butt. would like for him to stand side by side w/ Gaara against the zombie kages, also to fly in and save kakashi and see his reaction to Naruto now. __________________ Duty is as heavy as a mountain Death as light as a feather Oct.15 2009 i survived Madara's first attack of turning back time To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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yokokurama Chunin Exam Participant Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 823 Rep Power: 9	Re: Chapter 535 Discussion I think Iruka trying to fool Naruto into believing the animals have Kyuubi chakra was partly Kishimoto admitting the trick before about examining the animals for male/femaleness was stupid. That is all.

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Devroux Bronze V 4 lyfe Join Date: May 2010 Location: All Pizza Posts: 18,905 Rep Power: 27	Re: Chapter 535 Discussion The chapter was really good. I like the epic pose pictures that are put in it. I get goosebumps. Seeing Naruto escape so easily from a barrier that would have held him before he got Kyuubi under his belt was cool because it gave proof to how much stronger he had gotten. Can't wait to see what happens when he reaches the battle field. __________________ 卐 DΣVR To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Uχ Δ\|✝ΣR 卍 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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EroS Ninja Academy Student Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Re: Chapter 535 Discussion I must admit, I was a bit psyched at first that since Naruto went SM he may combine that with RM when not even realizing it, as he is prone to make such monumental discoveries through sheer coincidence. I do believe this will be revisited, and it will have awesome outcomes (I once posed that it could be a way to tame Kyuubi, but that does seem a bit ridiculous now as he would probably have to absorb all of the nature chakra to bring about toad qualities in the fox). Something that popped into my mind reading all the discussion was what if, after a series of battles against ridiculous foes (say he does take out all the kages, or former jinchurikis, etc), he is summoned back to Mt Myoboku? The more he has developed and grown stronger, the further up the toad hierarchy he has gone up (Gamakichi and Gamatatsu, then Gamabunta, then Ma and Pa. This is only including those he summoned on his own, as he originally summoned Bunta but that was with the aid of Kyuubi chakra), so what if he is called back by the Great Toad Sage to be given some ultimate training or knowledge? That Toad is old as hell, it is possible old enough to date back to near the time of SoSP, as we don't know the longevity of the toads and that dude has been there seemingly forever based off comparisons with the others. Could be the missing link to Naruto going full-on SoSP mode.

04-13-2011, 07:19 PM	#38
narulvr Genin Elite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: cleveland Posts: 443 Rep Power: 8	Re: Chapter 535 Discussion best chap since the war started! Naruto's becoming a G. the sauce wont stand a chance... but he will cuz he got kishi on his side but yea almost instant sage mode=ownage __________________ while your buisy readin this im seducing yo girlfriend!

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