Spoiler I'm surprised no one mention this, yet.

[EroS]

In my opinion, the idea that many people have expressed (that Naruto has zero intelligence) would be confirmed if he ended up with Sakura.

Yes, Kushina said find someone like her, but what part of her was she referring to? Of course, that is why the statement is so debated because it is purposely ambiguous. Kushina was an incredibly talented kunoichi with a great bloodline, had great talent with sealing techniques, was brash and obnoxious yet kind, and was seen as being without fear (Sasuke's mom mentioning her fear of childbirth being the first thing she is afraid of).

As for the main two girls that I have found people argue for Naruto ending up with, starting off with Sakura - Yes Naruto had a crush on her growing up, but he also always knew that she loved him in a platonic way and Sasuke in a romantic way. As a ninja, she is almost worthless. She has never really shown skill except in scolding Naruto for being a pervert. Whenever things get tough, she usually just cries out for Naruto or Sasuke to help. She has lied to Naruto about her feelings so that she could kill Sasuke, who Naruto is hell bent on saving. When trying to pull through on it, she again showed that her feelings for Sasuke are too strong to overcome despite his acts. She is not a strong kunoichi (not in terms of skill, which aside from medical we haven't seen much of aside from punching the ground), she has a weak and fickle character, and she is utterly reliant (which she has admitted) on Naruto.

Hinata - Quiet and basheful, but from what we have seen an able kunoichi (only having been showing fighting against Neji and Pain which her defeat was obvious). She is part of the main house of one of Konaha's prized families. Despite being obviously outclassed, in her fights she has shown to stick to her nindo, which is actually Naruto's which he knows she adopted because of him. She has confessed her love for Naruto (which was a genuine confession, not like Sakura's fake confession), and has been willing to die for him in proof of this. The image of her dying was enough for Naruto to sprout more tails than he ever had before, and they didn't slowly developed through other things making him angry (as with the cloak did in the past) but were all visible at the outset of the transformation. Also, and I think this is often over looked, before he fought Neji Naruto said this to Hinata (paraphrased) 'You know, I used to think you were weird, but I really like people like you.' So she isn't weird to him, and he has admitted that he likes the type of person she is.

If you can't tell, I prefer Hinata over Sakura. But I think it makes more sense that this easter egg would lead more to the one who has shown herself to be self-reliant and capable in battle, has similar morals to Naruto, was willing to die for him because of her love, and he doesn't view as weird and actually likes, versus the one who is constantly requiring him to save her and has shown she is willing to lie and deceive him in order to do what she (selfishly) feels in right, despite knowing he is strongly against her on this issue. And this is a simplified statement (it all is really, no way this is all encompassing), but it almost seems a question of would he end up with the selfless one, or the selfish one?

[White_fang]

Originally Posted by EroS

In my opinion, the idea that many people have expressed (that Naruto has zero intelligence) would be confirmed if he ended up with Sakura.

Yes, Kushina said find someone like her, but what part of her was she referring to? Of course, that is why the statement is so debated because it is purposely ambiguous. Kushina was an incredibly talented kunoichi with a great bloodline, had great talent with sealing techniques, was brash and obnoxious yet kind, and was seen as being without fear (Sasuke's mom mentioning her fear of childbirth being the first thing she is afraid of).

As for the main two girls that I have found people argue for Naruto ending up with, starting off with Sakura - Yes Naruto had a crush on her growing up, but he also always knew that she loved him in a platonic way and Sasuke in a romantic way. As a ninja, she is almost worthless. She has never really shown skill except in scolding Naruto for being a pervert. Whenever things get tough, she usually just cries out for Naruto or Sasuke to help. She has lied to Naruto about her feelings so that she could kill Sasuke, who Naruto is hell bent on saving. When trying to pull through on it, she again showed that her feelings for Sasuke are too strong to overcome despite his acts. She is not a strong kunoichi (not in terms of skill, which aside from medical we haven't seen much of aside from punching the ground), she has a weak and fickle character, and she is utterly reliant (which she has admitted) on Naruto.

Hinata - Quiet and basheful, but from what we have seen an able kunoichi (only having been showing fighting against Neji and Pain which her defeat was obvious). She is part of the main house of one of Konaha's prized families. Despite being obviously outclassed, in her fights she has shown to stick to her nindo, which is actually Naruto's which he knows she adopted because of him. She has confessed her love for Naruto (which was a genuine confession, not like Sakura's fake confession), and has been willing to die for him in proof of this. The image of her dying was enough for Naruto to sprout more tails than he ever had before, and they didn't slowly developed through other things making him angry (as with the cloak did in the past) but were all visible at the outset of the transformation. Also, and I think this is often over looked, before he fought Neji Naruto said this to Hinata (paraphrased) 'You know, I used to think you were weird, but I really like people like you.' So she isn't weird to him, and he has admitted that he likes the type of person she is.

If you can't tell, I prefer Hinata over Sakura. But I think it makes more sense that this easter egg would lead more to the one who has shown herself to be self-reliant and capable in battle, has similar morals to Naruto, was willing to die for him because of her love, and he doesn't view as weird and actually likes, versus the one who is constantly requiring him to save her and has shown she is willing to lie and deceive him in order to do what she (selfishly) feels in right, despite knowing he is strongly against her on this issue. And this is a simplified statement (it all is really, no way this is all encompassing), but it almost seems a question of would he end up with the selfless one, or the selfish one?

^ this plus 1

people have to stop with the sakura **** already. Pretend a boy and a girl know each other since little and grew up as neighbors. Just because they spent so much time together doesn't mean they'll end up together. Girls are fickle and would never want to be with that guy, they only see him as a close friend. The boy would have to hear about her liking some other guy while he probably did like her at some point until the guy just can't take it anymore and focuses on another girl.

[Jakropha]

Originally Posted by White_fang

Just because they spent so much time together doesn't mean they'll end up together. Girls are fickle and would never want to be with that guy, they only see him as a close friend. The boy would have to hear about her liking some other guy while he probably did like her at some point until the guy just can't take it anymore and focuses on another girl.

Thats my life, in a nutshell.
Minus the fact that it was kind of the other way around
Damn im mean.

But yeah, Hinata if anything, but im hellbent on Naruto doing the obvious thing
which is...
Is....
iss......s.s...s.s...>~!!>!!3w11#@!#

Brain fart, just gonna stick with him dying in some crude and unusual way then coming back to life as Jezuz

[gamerbabe]

Originally Posted by EroS

What if what she meant was that Naruto should find a girl who loved him enough to be willing to die for him? Even if that isn't what she meant, if that is how Naruto took the message then Sakura would be out, and Hinata would be in.

i kinda agree on that.but if naruto would follow what his mothers advice he wont end up with anyone because every girl in konoha is weird in some way or another

[UchiHa_AsH]

Originally Posted by EroS

In my opinion, the idea that many people have expressed (that Naruto has zero intelligence) would be confirmed if he ended up with Sakura.

Yes, Kushina said find someone like her, but what part of her was she referring to? Of course, that is why the statement is so debated because it is purposely ambiguous. Kushina was an incredibly talented kunoichi with a great bloodline, had great talent with sealing techniques, was brash and obnoxious yet kind, and was seen as being without fear (Sasuke's mom mentioning her fear of childbirth being the first thing she is afraid of).

As for the main two girls that I have found people argue for Naruto ending up with, starting off with Sakura - Yes Naruto had a crush on her growing up, but he also always knew that she loved him in a platonic way and Sasuke in a romantic way. As a ninja, she is almost worthless. She has never really shown skill except in scolding Naruto for being a pervert. Whenever things get tough, she usually just cries out for Naruto or Sasuke to help. She has lied to Naruto about her feelings so that she could kill Sasuke, who Naruto is hell bent on saving. When trying to pull through on it, she again showed that her feelings for Sasuke are too strong to overcome despite his acts. She is not a strong kunoichi (not in terms of skill, which aside from medical we haven't seen much of aside from punching the ground), she has a weak and fickle character, and she is utterly reliant (which she has admitted) on Naruto.

Hinata - Quiet and basheful, but from what we have seen an able kunoichi (only having been showing fighting against Neji and Pain which her defeat was obvious). She is part of the main house of one of Konaha's prized families. Despite being obviously outclassed, in her fights she has shown to stick to her nindo, which is actually Naruto's which he knows she adopted because of him. She has confessed her love for Naruto (which was a genuine confession, not like Sakura's fake confession), and has been willing to die for him in proof of this. The image of her dying was enough for Naruto to sprout more tails than he ever had before, and they didn't slowly developed through other things making him angry (as with the cloak did in the past) but were all visible at the outset of the transformation. Also, and I think this is often over looked, before he fought Neji Naruto said this to Hinata (paraphrased) 'You know, I used to think you were weird, but I really like people like you.' So she isn't weird to him, and he has admitted that he likes the type of person she is.

If you can't tell, I prefer Hinata over Sakura. But I think it makes more sense that this easter egg would lead more to the one who has shown herself to be self-reliant and capable in battle, has similar morals to Naruto, was willing to die for him because of her love, and he doesn't view as weird and actually likes, versus the one who is constantly requiring him to save her and has shown she is willing to lie and deceive him in order to do what she (selfishly) feels in right, despite knowing he is strongly against her on this issue. And this is a simplified statement (it all is really, no way this is all encompassing), but it almost seems a question of would he end up with the selfless one, or the selfish one?

What you stated are nice arguments and i want to see that from time to time. But look at it from this way. What if sakura is still trying to find her resolve and still trying to figure out whats going on in her heart. Againts hinata i have nothing to say ofc. She got her resolve and so on but what naruto said to her so long ago means nothing. Naruto's nine tails got out because it would happen for anybody of his fellow friends and teammates dying infrot of his eyes. He is just a person like that. You should know that better.

While for sakura. I do think she is a selfish person but look at it from a second angle. What would you do if you were a girl and you were into a guy so much from your childhood age. And having fantasies about that person and making stuff that actually isn't true come to your mind. And then that person becomes distant of you. You cant accept the fact that this has happened and try to convince yourself by any means necesearry that this fact is not true. Even if it means being selfish and asking for help from friends. And by chance asking for help from a friend who you've known for ages and he loves you. That person then does alot of things to try to make you happy but you don't see it. Then you slowly start to realise what kind of a person he is and slowly start liking him more and more trough time. But still the old pain still lingers. You think you can solve it on your own but you cant yet you still try. But when you get to that point you fail miserably and being saved yet again.

I think sakura is also very confused and is trying to find her resolve. But she is lost. She needs guidance but nobody is helping her. So basicly we can just sit and wait and see to what conclusion she comes to at the end.

Thats my input and my counterargumenet on your statements

[Shikamaru Nara]

The only thing I got out of this is that you think Sakura is part of Kushina's clan?

I doubt that just because Kushina married Minato and had kids with him, which means Naruto=/=Sakura Genetically.

[UchiHa_AsH]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

The only thing I got out of this is that you think Sakura is part of Kushina's clan?

I doubt that just because Kushina married Minato and had kids with him, which means Naruto=/=Sakura Genetically.

No no no no XD you got it wrong. We just mean based on character and looks. We aint aiming even nearly at clan blood or something like that =P

[ObitoUchiha]

Originally Posted by EroS

What if what she meant was that Naruto should find a girl who loved him enough to be willing to die for him? Even if that isn't what she meant, if that is how Naruto took the message then Sakura would be out, and Hinata would be in.

Yes. I dont really care about pairings but i do just want those two to be together, naruto and hinata... but when i saw what Kushina said, I had my hopes down until i read that.

[Ninyn]

Originally Posted by Skrall

=> Chapter 504, around page 12/13 (when Kushina starts to talk about women).

/sarcasm

I wonder who Kishi is indirectly reffering to?

'Mother knows best' is what most of us say.

i think sakura definetly resembles kushina personality wise i mean look how minato and she turned out. naruto and sakura all the way!!

[EroS]

Originally Posted by UchiHa_AsH

What you stated are nice arguments and i want to see that from time to time. But look at it from this way. What if sakura is still trying to find her resolve and still trying to figure out whats going on in her heart. Againts hinata i have nothing to say ofc. She got her resolve and so on but what naruto said to her so long ago means nothing. Naruto's nine tails got out because it would happen for anybody of his fellow friends and teammates dying infrot of his eyes. He is just a person like that. You should know that better.

While for sakura. I do think she is a selfish person but look at it from a second angle. What would you do if you were a girl and you were into a guy so much from your childhood age. And having fantasies about that person and making stuff that actually isn't true come to your mind. And then that person becomes distant of you. You cant accept the fact that this has happened and try to convince yourself by any means necesearry that this fact is not true. Even if it means being selfish and asking for help from friends. And by chance asking for help from a friend who you've known for ages and he loves you. That person then does alot of things to try to make you happy but you don't see it. Then you slowly start to realise what kind of a person he is and slowly start liking him more and more trough time. But still the old pain still lingers. You think you can solve it on your own but you cant yet you still try. But when you get to that point you fail miserably and being saved yet again.

I think sakura is also very confused and is trying to find her resolve. But she is lost. She needs guidance but nobody is helping her. So basicly we can just sit and wait and see to what conclusion she comes to at the end.

Thats my input and my counterargumenet on your statements

Naruto cares more for Sasuke than anyone else because he was the first friend he made. Yet, when Orochimaru brought up Sasuke on the Tenchi Bridge, Naruto only developed his tails one at a time. Also, according to your logic, Naruto would have gone nine-tails cloak right away when he found out Kakashi, not just his friend but one of his sensei's and one of the few people to genuinely show faith in him before he showed immense talent and later saved the village, had died at Pain's hand. So no, Naruto would not have done the same for any of his friends let alone would he have sprouted 6-tails from the start. And, while I can't confirm this, my sneaking suspicion is that the emotions in Naruto's world are a lot like the real world, and Naruto's intense hate was tied into the love (genuine, I will again reiterate) that Hinata showed for him, and it being reciprocated. Also, along those lines, I doubt that once all is said and done, there is not a special bond between the two because of this little experience (he saw her 'die' for him, he saved the village because of her).

Your second point about liking a guy since you were young, there are two ways I will respond to that. Let's say that is how Naruto feels about Sakura, in that being with her so much when they were young he felt that attraction to her, but as he grew older and saw what she was capable of (or in her case, incapable of, which is almost everything aside from healing people) he found it hard to break away from her. But, in Naruto's case, we already know he is capable of this, as he spurned her false advances in the Land of Iron and called her out for lying to herself. Second, your point could describe Naruto's brotherly love for Sasuke, which is analogous to sakura's romantic love for him. Naruto realizing a lost cause despite his love for Sasuke, sakura being unable to. This just furthers the disconnect between Naruto's idealization of sakura when they were kids, and the realization he has now (much like your point about sakura and Sasuke).

The statement that Sakura lacks guidance is bull. Not only is Kakashi a genius, but she is the disciple of the strongest kunoichi in Konoha, and the first female Hokage. She can't get over Sasuke because she vowed to herself when she was young that she would not lose to Ino in the realm of love, and that is how she believes she will prove her superiority. It isn't about guidance, it is about foolish pride and selfishness, which she has shown repeatedly again and again.

As for trying to find her resolve, why should she have that excuse? She is not the only one in this situation; the entirety of the Konoha 11 view Sasuke as a comrade, and Ino feels the same way about Sasuke as sakura does. I don't think she gets a special pass in this situation, when they are all having their resolve tested. Shikamaru didn't rely on everyone else when he failed his first mission and Sasuke got away, nor did he when his sensei died; why is it ok for her to still find herself especially when she keeps putting others at danger in the process?

And to your point, don't forget that often the boy who is always there for the girl, who loved her from the start and was always willing to help, eventually realizes how immature and misguided his feelings were, and learns from then and goes on to love others. Both sakura and Hinata knew he was/watched him fighting Pain, and only one came to help him and gave me that little extra needed to save their village. One of them who is willing to forfeit her life so another can live, and one who is willing to drug all her friends so she can try, and fail, to go through on her own selfish plan. That is my counterargument to you.