Spoiler I Need Answers...

[Final Valley]

Alright, I have a few questions... I'm not a big manga reader, so if someone can answer these it'd be great.


[SPOILERS ALERT]



1. Where did the Sharingan, Byakugan, and the Rinnegan all begin? I know that the Sage of Six Paths had two sons. The older one possessed the Sharingan, and believe that you need strength for peace. The younger son believe that you needed love for peace to exist and the Sage of Six Paths picked him to lead on after his death. So where did the Byaukugan and Rinnegan come from?

2. Madara said he is the Second Path of the Six, and he said Pain has the Third... what does this mean?

3. When Madara was wearing his orange mask why was only one eye exposed? Did he just not have an eye in the other socket, was he waiting for Pain's Rinnegan?

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Rinengan is they eyes of The Sage (Uchiha+Senju)

Byakugan I dunno it was said that The sharingan came from it.

And I don't think it said the son had the sharingan, just had the eyes.

Where was that said?

We don't know that yet.

[Final Valley]

Originally Posted by J-Sun Tasogare

Rinengan is they eyes of The Sage (Uchiha+Senju)

Byakugan I dunno it was said that The sharingan came from it.

And I don't think it said the son had the sharingan, just had the eyes.

Where was that said?

We don't know that yet.

~I may have miss read... So neither of the sons had (Sharingan, Byakugan, or Rinnegan) that we know of?

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Originally Posted by Final Valley

~I may have miss read... So neither of the sons had (Sharingan, Byakugan, or Rinnegan) that we know of?

We dunno. But we know that the sons went on to form the Senju and Uchiha clan.

[zerosameri]

1. There is no way to pinpoint how or were it came from (besides the fact that RS had it). Though you need both Senju and Uchiha blood to have it, but you need the sharingan.... Oh and the Byaukugan came from the Sharingan.

2. He was talking about the 'other' RS's, and he never said it about Pain. It was Nagato. He is basically saying that him and Nagato have what it needs to be RS, along with other things

3. I guess you didn't see the fight. Well so ok, when he was fighting Konan he broke his mask and was reveled to have the Izangi. It seem to activate right as the eye was shown. So I guess he had it hidden so the Izangi wont active. :\ Not to sure though.

[EvL j3st3r]

Originally Posted by Final Valley

1. Where did the Sharingan, Byakugan, and the Rinnegan all begin? I know that the Sage of Six Paths had two sons. The older one possessed the Sharingan, and believe that you need strength for peace. The younger son believe that you needed love for peace to exist and the Sage of Six Paths picked him to lead on after his death. So where did the Byaukugan and Rinnegan come from?

First of all, The elder son possessed the Rinnegan (manga says he inherited Rikudo's eyes, this would be Rinnegan)....not the Sharingan. Byakugan and Sharingan both derived from Rinnegan. The order that they derived is unproven...but....Kakashi spoke of a "rumor". He says "It is rumored that the Uchiha clan's origin lies with the Hyuuga clan." If this rumor is true then it would of course suggest that the Byakugan derived before Sharingan. In some ways it doesn't make sense but none the less.....the most logical educated guess at this time is......Rinnegan begot Byakugan which begot Sharingan.

2. Madara said he is the Second Path of the Six, and he said Pain has the Third... what does this mean?

I don't completely understand this myself so I won't try to give you a halfway answer...however, I do not think he is referring to himself and Nagato as reincarnations of the SO6P like some ppl may tell you.

3. When Madara was wearing his orange mask why was only one eye exposed? Did he just not have an eye in the other socket, was he waiting for Pain's Rinnegan?

As Zerosamerai said, there's no way to be sure about this one since it hasn't been confirmed in black and white. But I would say Zero's guess is a pretty good one. It's probably an eye that can't be turned off (like Kakashi's)....same concept different details. If you recall, Kakashi keeps his eye covered until he needs it for battle. The reason is that it doesn't deactivate on it's own and hiding it's sight is the only way to keep it from being in use.

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[zerosameri]

Originally Posted by EvL j3st3r

green

Byakugan and Sharingan both derived from Rinnegan

PNj, because when every '1st started' the only known eye's were Rinnegan, then Sharingan. Because the Uchiha brother got Sharingan from RS which had to came from the Rinnegan.

Kakashi spoke of a "rumor". He says "It is rumored that the Uchiha clan's origin lies with the Hyuuga clan."

Clearly it's false or PNJ. 'first' known clans back then was Senju and Uchiha.

suggest that the Byakugan derived before Sharingan

Lol if so then you could say the Senju brother got 'eye power' before the Senju brother.
Kishi really needs to get his facts straight.

[EvL j3st3r]

Originally Posted by zerosameri

PNj, because when every '1st started' the only known eye's were Rinnegan, then Sharingan. Because the Uchiha brother got Sharingan from RS which had to came from the Rinnegan.

If you are referring to the elder son then you are incorrect. The manga says he inherited RS's eyes. That's Rinnegan. There's even a picture. I'm sure both mutations (Sharingan and Byakugan) probably happened over several generations, not just one.

Clearly it's false or PNJ. 'first' known clans back then was Senju and Uchiha.

First clans back then are unknown. All the manga says is that the Senju derive from the younger son and the Uchiha derived from the elder son. It never actually says they were the FIRST clans to derive from those ancestors. That is just widely assumed. And it may be true...or....it may be untrue to create a twist.

Lol if so then you could say the Senju brother got 'eye power' before the Senju brother.
Kishi really needs to get his facts straight.

Yea, no doubt. When the manga's over there will be several plot holes left unfilled. It's frustrating but I guess it can't be helped with such a long running series.

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[zerosameri]

Originally Posted by EvL j3st3r

PNj, because when every '1st started' the only known eye's were Rinnegan, then Sharingan. Because the Uchiha brother got Sharingan from RS which had to came from the Rinnegan.

If you are referring to the elder son then you are incorrect. The manga says he inherited RS's eyes. That's Rinnegan. There's even a picture. I'm sure both mutations (Sharingan and Byakugan) probably happened over several generations, not just one.
Oh yea....

Clearly it's false or PNJ. 'first' known clans back then was Senju and Uchiha.

First clans back then are unknown. All the manga says is that the Senju derive from the younger son and the Uchiha derived from the elder son. It never actually says they were the FIRST clans to derive from those ancestors. That is just widely assumed. And it may be true...or....it may be untrue to create a twist.
Hence why I put '' around it.

Lol if so then you could say the Senju brother got 'eye power' before the Senju brother.
Kishi really needs to get his facts straight.green

Red...

[EvL j3st3r]

I wasn't fast enough. you read my last comment before I finished editing. I forgot to reply to part of your remarks.

[zerosameri]

Originally Posted by EvL j3st3r

I wasn't fast enough. you read my last comment before I finished editing. I forgot to reply to part of your remarks.

That's fine

Yea, no doubt. When the manga's over there will be several plot holes left unfilled. It's frustrating but I guess it can't be helped with such a long running series.

One of my favorites is the finding of the Leaf and Uchiha clan