Spoiler Kin-Gin FAIL

[JazzJunkie4]

Originally Posted by deidara330

"besides Kinkaku and Ginkaku," is what I said. Learn to read.

.... Dude, totally missed again. Now that you understand what I meant, "besides kin and gin" is unecessary because I already stated that they are the only two. Since, you couldn't understand what i meant 4 times when the explanation is right in front of you maybe YOU should learn how to read.

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by JazzJunkie4

.... Dude, totally missed again. Now that you understand what I meant, "besides kin and gin" is unecessary because I already stated that they are the only two. Since, you couldn't understand what i meant 4 times when the explanation is right in front of you maybe YOU should learn how to read.

Let me ask you something: Have you ever heard of a rhetorical question? Do you understand what it means? Because the question you originally answered was a rhetorical question. "How many people besides Kinkaku and Ginkaku have had (a Biju's power)?" The answer is none. It's meant to make the point that Kinkaku and Ginkaku are unique because they are the only people ever to have a Biju's power and not be a Jinchuriki. For one thing, I didn't ask the question because I didn't know the answer, and for another I didn't direct the question at you, and for a third thing "Besides Kinkaku and Ginkaku" was in the original question, which you responded to with "two more".

[zerosameri]

Originally Posted by deidara330

Let me ask you something: Have you ever heard of a rhetorical question? Do you understand what it means? Because the question you originally answered was a rhetorical question. "How many people besides Kinkaku and Ginkaku have had (a Biju's power)?" The answer is none. It's meant to make the point that Kinkaku and Ginkaku are unique because they are the only people ever to have a Biju's power and not be a Jinchuriki. For one thing, I didn't ask the question because I didn't know the answer, and for another I didn't direct the question at you, and for a third thing "Besides Kinkaku and Ginkaku" was in the original question, which you responded to with "two more".

Sora counts... If you count fillers.

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by zerosameri

Sora counts... If you count fillers.

But I don't, so he doesn't.

[zerosameri]

Originally Posted by deidara330

But I don't, so he doesn't.

What about all though random people that were said to get the Kyuubi's chakra? They have to count... Even though they were just mentioned and no no story plot.

[JazzJunkie4]

Originally Posted by deidara330

Let me ask you something: Have you ever heard of a rhetorical question? Do you understand what it means? Because the question you originally answered was a rhetorical question. "How many people besides Kinkaku and Ginkaku have had (a Biju's power)?" The answer is none. It's meant to make the point that Kinkaku and Ginkaku are unique because they are the only people ever to have a Biju's power and not be a Jinchuriki. For one thing, I didn't ask the question because I didn't know the answer, and for another I didn't direct the question at you, and for a third thing "Besides Kinkaku and Ginkaku" was in the original question, which you responded to with "two more".

First time I have seen anyone miss interprate something I have said 5 times on this site. I'm going to make sure you understand what I meant by "2 more than any of the other tailed beasts".

1. My first comment was intended to just remind us to keep in mind that no other tailed beast besides the fox has anyone like kin and gin, hence "2 more than any of the tailed beasts". So you could look at it from jester's perspective or you're perspective, but still it is 2 more than any other beast.
Cool?

2. when you said "That doesn't answer what I asked. "How many people besides Kinkaku and Ginkaku have actually had it?" If you literally answered "2 more", then who are these people?" At this point you are taking this from the wrong angle. You think i mean "two more" than kin and gin rather than what I said which is "two more" than the TAILED BEASTS. My first post was NOT AN ANSWER to you're question regarding wether there were any others beside kin and gin, but just a reminder that kin and gin are a phenomenon that only occur with the fox. Kind of a smart alec remark if you will. Thus, there was no need for me to tell you at that point that I wasn't answering to that question because my following explanation said so.

3. After that you are mainly building an argument off of a misunderstanding on you're part. You thought I was answering a rhetorical question (which you actually contradict in you're second reply because you misinterpreted my first post and asked who are the "two more", but that's beside the point). I wasn't saying there were more people than kin and gin with tailed beast powers, but saying "still keep in mind" it is 2 more than any other tailed beast.

I responded "two more" than the TAILED BEASTS, not Kin and Gin. Had you read my response thoroughly this misunderstanding never would have happened.

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by JazzJunkie4

First time I have seen anyone miss interprate something I have said 5 times on this site. I'm going to make sure you understand what I meant by "2 more than any of the other tailed beasts".

I understood what it meant after your second post. Beyond that was a completely different misunderstanding, not the same. The first was what you meant by your response, the second was that your response was actually to answer my question.

1. My first comment was intended to just remind us to keep in mind that no other tailed beast besides the fox has anyone like kin and gin, hence "2 more than any of the tailed beasts". So you could look at it from jester's perspective or you're perspective, but still it is 2 more than any other beast.
Cool?

Technically speaking the fox doesn't "Have" Kinkaku and Ginkaku. They have its power. Personally I would've said "2 more than have any of the other tailed beasts power".

2. when you said "That doesn't answer what I asked. "How many people besides Kinkaku and Ginkaku have actually had it?" If you literally answered "2 more", then who are these people?" At this point you are taking this from the wrong angle. You think i mean "two more" than kin and gin rather than what I said which is "two more" than the TAILED BEASTS. My first post was NOT AN ANSWER to you're question regarding wether there were any others beside kin and gin, but just a reminder that kin and gin are a phenomenon that only occur with the fox. Kind of a smart alec remark if you will. Thus, there was no need for me to tell you at that point that I wasn't answering to that question because my following explanation said so.

I thought you meant two more than Kin and Gin because my question was 'How many more than Kin and Gin' and I thought you were answering my question. Now, I'm sorry that I misinterpreted that, but I asked a question, and you responded. Where was there not a need for you to say you weren't trying to answer it? You're not the only one who knows people to answer questions the wrong way.

3. After that you are mainly building an argument off of a misunderstanding on you're part. You thought I was answering a rhetorical question (which you actually contradict in you're second reply because you misinterpreted my first post and asked who are the "two more", but that's beside the point). I wasn't saying there were more people than kin and gin with tailed beast powers, but saying "still keep in mind" it is 2 more than any other tailed beast.

Again, my misinterpretation doesn't contradict my rhetorical question. I ask who the two more are because I believe that you're attempting to answer my question, and because I know that Kinkaku and Ginkaku are the only such people I think you refer to two people other than them, and thus ask who they could possibly be.

I responded "two more" than the TAILED BEASTS, not Kin and Gin. Had you read my response thoroughly this misunderstanding never would have happened.

I misinterpreted what you said, and I misunderstood much of it, but at the same time I believe you were much less clear than you could have been and left the meaning of what you said up to interpretation. From my perspective you basically wanted me to assume you weren't answering my question when you responded to my post, but generally when I ask a question my assumption is that the immediate response will be to that question, and besides that it seemed with your type of response you were answering my question.

The only reason I'm continuing this is because I don't want you to think I'm an idiot, which you seem to think I am by your second and third responses.

And, only 5 times? I've been misinterpreted much more than that before.

[JazzJunkie4]

Originally Posted by deidara330

I misinterpreted what you said, and I misunderstood much of it, but at the same time I believe you were much less clear than you could have been and left the meaning of what you said up to interpretation. From my perspective you basically wanted me to assume you weren't answering my question when you responded to my post, but generally when I ask a question my assumption is that the immediate response will be to that question, and besides that it seemed with your type of response you were answering my question.That is why you read the response. It clearly stated what I was trying to tell you.

The only reason I'm continuing this is because I don't want you to think I'm an idiot, which you seem to think I am by your second and third responses.

And, only 5 times? I've been misinterpreted much more than that before.

"I understood what it meant after you're second post. Beyond that was a completely different misunderstanding, not the same. The first was what you meant by your response, the second was that your response was actually to answer my question". yes and I explain that in my next paragraph

"Technically speaking the fox doesn't "Have" Kinkaku and Ginkaku. They have its power. Personally I would've said "2 more than have any of the other tailed beasts power". That's just dumb, you know what I meant.

"I thought you meant two more than Kin and Gin because my question was 'How many more than Kin and Gin' and I thought you were answering my question. Now, I'm sorry that I misinterpreted that, but I asked a question, and you responded. Where was there not a need for you to say you weren't trying to answer it? You're not the only one who knows people to answer questions the wrong way." Like I said, my explanation told you I wasn't talking about "2 more" than Kin and Gin, thus "'besides Kinkaku and Ginkaku,'" is what I said. Learn to read." Shouldn't be necessary because I already told you what I was talking about. I thought you could figure that out: "Kin and Gin ARE the two. No other tailed beasts have anyone like gin and kin, that's why it is 2 MORE THAN ANY OTHER TAILED BEASTS." I tell you that kin and gin ARE the "two more" and from the other tailed beasts not in addition to kin and gin themselves. It looks like it is all there to me.

"Again, my misinterpretation doesn't contradict my rhetorical question. I ask who the two more are because I believe that you're attempting to answer my question, and because I know that Kinkaku and Ginkaku are the only such people I think you refer to two people other than them, and thus ask who they could possibly be." Once again if you thoroughly read what said about this, I said it was a result of misunderstanding where I was coming from because of this: " If you literally answered "2 more", then who are these people?" That wasn't rhetorical. But again like I said, that is beside the point.

With this last post I don't mean to be a douche or anything. But still, there are some minor misconceptions.