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View Poll Results: Which side has the strongest military?
Sweden 2 15.38%
Russia 10 76.92%
Tied 1 7.69%
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:31 PM   #21
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Superweapon:
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Elektromagnetisk puls (EMP)
Effect: Disables any electronics, no physical damage.
Range: Depends on launcher.
Area damage: Various.

Japanese superweapon also used by Sweden
Disables any electronics, including battery-driven machines
Causes no physical damage to structures or humanoids
Unstoppable by any known means

EMP was discovered by American scientists after the detonation of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs. So it is not Japanese at all, and all non-nuclear EMP weapons in existence cannot even match the relatively weak EMP effects generated by the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, mainly because they cannot possibly store enough energy to release enough power to fry any electronics over a large area.

Also, the military has built aircraft and building that are shielded against such bursts. NORAD has a shield which will be able to withstand the EMP generated when a warhead as large as the Tsar bomba made, but on a direct hit, the explosion itself would simply reduce the entire mountain to rubble. So it is not unstoppable at all, and it is safe to say it is way harder to defend against a nuclear detonation compared to an EMP pulse.

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R-36 is the almost obsolete warhead, you shuold have used the RT-2UTTKh instead as a comparison.

No structure known to and made by man can withstand a direct him from an R-36, much less that from bigger warheads. Even NORAD, which is arguably the most fortified building in the world and built inside a mountain could withstand a direct hit.
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Fine, don't respect the rules of only including the listed vehicles. But can you at least respect that it took me 4 hours to look up all that information and create this thread?
Nope because you've overlooked the newer developments Russia has, in order to "convince" people that Sweden has any military power at all.

And if it took you 4 hours to find that information, you must have worked really slow, because I could have pulled that off in half an hour at most.
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And EMP "superweapon" makes me laugh. It is impossible to create a powerful burst enough to wipe out electronics in a large city without resorting to nuclear warheads. And then you could just as well wipe out the city itself.

And if you knew any science at all, you would have known that Russia could simply use their nuclear warheads to create EMP bursts more powerful that any non-nuclear device would even come close to matching. Look it up.

Tzar Bomba was the biggest fusion bomb ever detonated. It was at 50 Mega(million)tons, but before modification it would have been twice that powerful. It is also the most destructive device every produced by man and it was powerful enough that its shockwave was measured orbiting the earth 3 times. They said it caused a 7.1 earthquake at ground zero, but most of the energy went into the atmosphere instead of into the earth, so it didn't spread far.
Exactly again.
The only know large scale EMP is a nuclear warhead detonated in space.
Russia has many of them. xD
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Exactly again.
The only know large scale EMP is a nuclear warhead detonated in space.
Russia has many of them. xD
Is your hobby following me around and agreeing with me? xD
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You are just agreeing with what I said in the beginning. >.>
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This stuff again.... I thought Russia pretty much gave most other countries their weapons... Oh yes and then there us the Americans...whom seem to love to do that to...>.>
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The Swed's assault rifle is so much more awesome but I give it to the Russians. In Russia Sweden does not attack Russia, Russia attacks Sweden...and wins.


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Not really, most people prefer the Norwegian HK416 to any European assault rifles.

Hell even the Belgium F2000 is a better weapon.
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You say so, but your comments say something different. Sweden will have the EMP pulse cannon all tested and deployed within 2 years.
It doesn't matter what Sweden has because they'll never use it.
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Not really, most people prefer the Norwegian HK416 to any European assault rifles.

Hell even the Belgium F2000 is a better weapon.
I meant the way it looks. Hell my gun expertise falls short outside of pistols and shotguns because I don't normally use an assault rifle to go hunting. xD
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Oh, well. Forget this thread, I'll make more equal military comparisons instead. Like "China vs Russia" and "England vs France":
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Russia wins because they have...



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Go here for another military comparison.
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It's a tie. Sweden uses Finland as a shield, the Laplanders as the spearpoint, Norway as a wetblanket, and retreats to Switzerland - leaving the Russians to deal with all of Europe again. Meanwhile, China invades an undefended Russia, and Moldova unites the EU with help from The Pope and German Science. You realize your stupid war brought about the Anti-Christ? Good job.
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If you look at the Baltic States region, you'll see a little slice of Russia wholly ensconced in Europe, but separated from the Main Dish as it were. This is where Connery is stationed, and this is where he's crowned as The Beast.

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If you look at the Baltic States region, you'll see a little slice of Russia wholly ensconced in Europe, but separated from the Main Dish as it were. This is where Connery is stationed, and this is where he's crowned as The Beast.

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