Naruto Tier List - Group Debate

TheBlackChidori · 12-26-2010, 05:08 PM

So I want everyone in on this. We should make a new tier list up to date with the manga, based not on personal opinion but the overall judgement of the users. Whatever characters get the most support will make the new tier lists.

Tiers as follows.

Conditions: For this particular list, characters have prep and are at full power in order to keep them in one placement. Otherwise, this list goes by Default battleground rules.

God Tier
Sage of the Six Paths
Juubi
Kabuto Yakushi with Edo Tensei
Tobi - Six Paths
Madara Uchiha - Edo Tensei
Hashirama Senju with Tailed Beasts
Orochimaru with Edo Tensei(Kages (maybe) not full power)

Legend Tier
Hashirama - Base
Madara w/Kyuubi
Tobi - Base
Naruto Uzumaki - Kurama Mode
Kurama
Nagato
Pain
Itachi Uchiha
Killer Bee
Minato Namikaze
3rd Raikage
A
Muu
Yagura
Danzo Shimura
Kakashi Hatake
Onoki
Kabuto Yakushi - Sage mode.
Naruto Uzumaki - Sage Mode
Jiraiya - Sage mode
Gaara
Tsunade
Might Guy
Kisame Hoshigaki
Second Mizukage
Sasuke Uchiha
Orochimaru

Kage Tier
Konan
Kin-Gin Bros
Hiruzen Sarutobi
Kakuzu
Deidara
Sasori
Fourth Kazekage
Third Kazekage
Mifune
Kitsuchi
Mei Terumi
Hanzo
Tobirama Senju
Darui
Chōji Akimichi
PTS gaara
Yugito Nii - Nibi

Jonin Tier
Kankuro
Chiyo
Kimimaro
Hidan
Roshi - Yonbi
Mangetsu Hōzuki
Suigetsu
Han - Gobi
Jūgo
Rock Lee
Temari
Choza Akimichi
Sai
Yamato
Neji Hyūga
Hiashi Hyuga
PTS Naruto Uzumaki
Zabuza Momochi
Haku
Asuma Sarutobi
PTS Naruto - OTK
PTS Sasuke - CS 2
Kidomaru
Shikamaru Nara
Utakata - Rokubi
Fu - Nanabi
Jinpachi Munashi
Ameyuri Ringo
Kushimaru Kuriarare
Jinin Akebino
Fuguki Suikazan

Chuunin Tier
PTS Lee
Pakura
Gari
Kiba Inuzuka
Shino Aburame
Tenten
Inoichi Yamanaka
PTS Choji Akimichi
Kurenai Yūhi
Jirobo
Sakura Haruno
Hinata Hyūga
Kotetsu Hagane & Izumo Kamizuki
Sakon/Ukon
Obito Uchiha - Gaiden

Genin Tier
PTS Neji Hyuuga
PTS Sasuke Uchiha
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Dosu Kinuta
Zaku Abumi
PTS Shikamaru Nara
Ino Yamanaka
PTS Hinata Hyuuga
Iruka
Yoroi Akadō
Misumi Tsurugi
Karin
PTS Ino Yamanaka
PTS Sakura Haruno
Kin Tsuchi
Ebisu
Moegi
Udon

Kikaichu Tier
Baby Naruto
Inari
Cat from First Mission
Baby Sasuke
1 Kikaichu

Start with Low Tier and work our way up. Someone can start by suggesting a general layout of Low Tier's character, and we all can nitpick and decide what makes that tier and who's too tough for it.

Note: Characters only have one day of Prep.

J-Sun Tasogare · 12-26-2010, 05:15 PM

Is this by Hype or Feats?

Vivi · 12-26-2010, 05:19 PM

Do Edo Tensei's count for themselves or will they only be part of Kabuto?

tyrell4life194 · 12-26-2010, 05:59 PM

Well, if the Edo Tensei count for Kabuto, then Kabuto should definitely be Top Tier. Along with Danzo, Madara, Pain, Naruto, and Sasuke. Probably Jiraiya also.

deidara330 · 12-26-2010, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBlackChidori

So I want everyone in on this. We should make a new tier list up to date with the manga, based not on personal opinion but the overall judgement of the users.

I've been saying this for a very long time. For at least a year I've had it in my opinion that a tier list should always be based on popular opinion. The only reason I haven't made a Naruto tier list in the MVBG based on popular opinion is because the Naruto page was locked because other people would edit it to base it on personal opinion. Although I was always too lazy just to make a thread.

Anyways, as I've stated in other threads, all the people Kabuto's summoned should technically be considered his equipment since he prepared them pre-fight. Thus he's the top tier.

tyrell4life194 · 12-26-2010, 06:25 PM

Well, since it is Kabuto's Technique, wouldn't the Edo Tensei Zombies be considered as Ninja Tools, like the Six Paths of Pain?

deidara330 · 12-26-2010, 06:29 PM

Pretty much. Kabuto stores them like a normal person would store any ordinary weapons before combat, so why shouldn't they be considered part of his weaponry? Although the BG defaults states all characters are at their most recent abilities, so Kabuto can't use Sasori or Shin. As the series progresses Kabuto can only become weaker by the BG's standards, disregarding the fact that he has an unknown jutsu.

tyrell4life194 · 12-26-2010, 06:35 PM

Well, here's my Top Tier List. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Top Tier
Kabuto
Pain
Madara
Itachi
Naruto
Sasuke
A

So, how is it? Do I need a few replacements? Are some out of order?

deidara330 · 12-26-2010, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyrell4life194

Well, here's my Top Tier List. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Top Tier
Kabuto
Pain
Madara
Itachi
Naruto
Sasuke
A

So, how is it? Do I need a few replacements? Are some out of order?

Madara should be above Pain. Madara has soul suck now in addition to Izanagi and intangibility. He could suck out the souls of all the paths of Pain while Izanagi was in use.

Naruto over Sasuke is debatable, and Itachi over either of them is just as debatable.

Devil's Lawyer · 12-26-2010, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyrell4life194

Well, here's my Top Tier List. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Top Tier
Kabuto
Pain
Madara
Itachi
Naruto
Sasuke
A

So, how is it? Do I need a few replacements? Are some out of order?

Kabuto still can't beat neither Naruto or Sasuke based on feats.

Pain that is debatable seeing as Naruto speed increase.

Madara should be up higher due to having both the powers of Nagato and his sharigan.

Itachi I know longer see him beating Sasuke. But will defeat Naruto due to genjutsu. Though it is further debatable that Naruto genjutsu dispelling tech has improved due to sage and demon energy control.

Bee should be above A definetely.

tyrell4life194 · 12-26-2010, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil's Lawyer

Kabuto still can't beat neither Naruto or Sasuke based on feats.
Edo Tensei
Pain that is debatable seeing as Naruto speed increase.
Preta=Supersonic+ reaction and running speed.
Deva=Supersonic running speed, and Supersonic+ reaction speed.
Madara should be up higher due to having both the powers of Nagato and his sharigan.
That's debatable.
Itachi I know longer see him beating Sasuke.
Correct.
But will defeat Naruto due to genjutsu.
Correct.
Though it is further debatable that Naruto genjutsu dispelling tech has improved due to sage and demon energy control.
Proof of Naruto's ability to dispell Genjutsu.
Bee should be above A definetely.

Debatable.

Yori · 12-26-2010, 08:34 PM

Kabuto no question should be number one. That guy has an army as his tools. Following up is Madara and then Pain.

J-Sun Tasogare · 12-26-2010, 08:43 PM

Kabuto (WITH PREP) is number 1 not just plain old Kabuchimaru,

Lowest tier should be along the lines of;

Sakura
Choji (Part 1)
Hinata
Tenten
Konohamaru
Tenten (Part 1)
Ino
Karin
Sakura (Part 1)
Ino (Part One)

Devil's Lawyer · 12-26-2010, 08:44 PM

Edo tensei requires massive prep and really if he were to start with no prep and facing someone like Naruto in sage or demon mode he would get blitzed. Then there is the issue his zombies wouldn't care if he was killed.

Kuromaki · 12-26-2010, 09:38 PM

Couple questions...

Should we still keep the Edo Tensei rule? Why not just have the characters living and in their most able forms, cause a lot of people would be much weaker without zombie hax :/

Are we including Part 1 characters, and will this be hype, feats, or a mix of both?

Nyruss · 12-27-2010, 01:59 AM

The soul determines the character. Edo Tenseis are Haku and Zabuza and whoever else. Different body same soul. Same deal for Orochimaru.

Do Orochimaru's feats suddenly not count because they weren't performed in his original body? The only reason he's in a different body is because of a ninjutsu. Edo Tensei = character.

Anyone who disgrees is a Fascist.

Shikamaru Nara · 12-27-2010, 07:35 AM

Is there a reason why Naruto is on the garbage list?

Space Cowboy Sasori · 12-27-2010, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Sun Tasogare

Kabuto (WITH PREP) is number 1 not just plain old Kabuchimaru,

Lowest tier should be along the lines of;

Sakura
Choji (Part 1)
Hinata
Tenten
Konohamaru
Tenten (Part 1)
Ino
Karin
Sakura (Part 1)
Ino (Part One)

Just put Women (Part 1), it makes it so much easier. =3

gama-sennin · 12-27-2010, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dudemeister

The soul determines the character. Edo Tenseis are Haku and Zabuza and whoever else. Different body same soul. Same deal for Orochimaru.

Do Orochimaru's feats suddenly not count because they weren't performed in his original body? The only reason he's in a different body is because of a ninjutsu. Edo Tensei = character.

Anyone who disgrees is a Fascist.

At the risk of being labeled as a Fascist, does that mean we can have match ups between humans and puppets? There is not much difference between and ETZ and a puppet.
We all saw in the last chapter that the ETZ would prefer not being what they are. Kabuto is forcing the souls to do his dirty work and without Kabuto the ETZs dont/wont exist.
There is also the minor issue of battles turning into stomps and there not being too many non-ETZ dead guys left in Narutoverse. This rule will simply kill the battles.

J-Sun Tasogare · 12-27-2010, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasori

Just put Women (Part 1), it makes it so much easier. =3

But Tsunade made it to mid tier. =o

12-26-2010, 05:08 PM	#1
TheBlackChidori Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wherever the Winds of Fate take me. Posts: 14,869 Rep Power: 0	Naruto Tier List - Group Debate So I want everyone in on this. We should make a new tier list up to date with the manga, based not on personal opinion but the overall judgement of the users. Whatever characters get the most support will make the new tier lists. Tiers as follows. Conditions: For this particular list, characters have prep and are at full power in order to keep them in one placement. Otherwise, this list goes by Default battleground rules. God Tier Sage of the Six Paths Juubi Kabuto Yakushi with Edo Tensei Tobi - Six Paths Madara Uchiha - Edo Tensei Hashirama Senju with Tailed Beasts Orochimaru with Edo Tensei(Kages (maybe) not full power) Legend Tier Hashirama - Base Madara w/Kyuubi Tobi - Base Naruto Uzumaki - Kurama Mode Kurama Nagato Pain Itachi Uchiha Killer Bee Minato Namikaze 3rd Raikage A Muu Yagura Danzo Shimura Kakashi Hatake Onoki Kabuto Yakushi - Sage mode. Naruto Uzumaki - Sage Mode Jiraiya - Sage mode Gaara Tsunade Might Guy Kisame Hoshigaki Second Mizukage Sasuke Uchiha Orochimaru Kage Tier Konan Kin-Gin Bros Hiruzen Sarutobi Kakuzu Deidara Sasori Fourth Kazekage Third Kazekage Mifune Kitsuchi Mei Terumi Hanzo Tobirama Senju Darui Chōji Akimichi PTS gaara Yugito Nii - Nibi Jonin Tier Kankuro Chiyo Kimimaro Hidan Roshi - Yonbi Mangetsu Hōzuki Suigetsu Han - Gobi Jūgo Rock Lee Temari Choza Akimichi Sai Yamato Neji Hyūga Hiashi Hyuga PTS Naruto Uzumaki Zabuza Momochi Haku Asuma Sarutobi PTS Naruto - OTK PTS Sasuke - CS 2 Kidomaru Shikamaru Nara Utakata - Rokubi Fu - Nanabi Jinpachi Munashi Ameyuri Ringo Kushimaru Kuriarare Jinin Akebino Fuguki Suikazan Chuunin Tier PTS Lee Pakura Gari Kiba Inuzuka Shino Aburame Tenten Inoichi Yamanaka PTS Choji Akimichi Kurenai Yūhi Jirobo Sakura Haruno Hinata Hyūga Kotetsu Hagane & Izumo Kamizuki Sakon/Ukon Obito Uchiha - Gaiden Genin Tier PTS Neji Hyuuga PTS Sasuke Uchiha Konohamaru Sarutobi Dosu Kinuta Zaku Abumi PTS Shikamaru Nara Ino Yamanaka PTS Hinata Hyuuga Iruka Yoroi Akadō Misumi Tsurugi Karin PTS Ino Yamanaka PTS Sakura Haruno Kin Tsuchi Ebisu Moegi Udon Kikaichu Tier Baby Naruto Inari Cat from First Mission Baby Sasuke 1 Kikaichu Start with Low Tier and work our way up. Someone can start by suggesting a general layout of Low Tier's character, and we all can nitpick and decide what makes that tier and who's too tough for it. Note: Characters only have one day of Prep. Last edited by BMC1994; 02-23-2013 at 03:22 PM.

12-26-2010, 05:15 PM	#2
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Vivi Little Miss Spoiler Formerly V-Valentine Jonin Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Deutschland Posts: 13,974 Rep Power: 23 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Official Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Do Edo Tensei's count for themselves or will they only be part of Kabuto? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Jessie>Tifa and Aeris. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-26-2010, 05:59 PM	#4
tyrell4life194 Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Not of your concern Posts: 4,247 Rep Power: 0	Re: Official Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Well, if the Edo Tensei count for Kabuto, then Kabuto should definitely be Top Tier. Along with Danzo, Madara, Pain, Naruto, and Sasuke. Probably Jiraiya also.

12-26-2010, 06:25 PM	#6
tyrell4life194 Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Not of your concern Posts: 4,247 Rep Power: 0	Re: Official Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Well, since it is Kabuto's Technique, wouldn't the Edo Tensei Zombies be considered as Ninja Tools, like the Six Paths of Pain?

12-26-2010, 06:29 PM	#7
deidara330 Mr. Serious Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Everywhere and Nowhere. Posts: 14,489 Rep Power: 14	Re: Official Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Pretty much. Kabuto stores them like a normal person would store any ordinary weapons before combat, so why shouldn't they be considered part of his weaponry? Although the BG defaults states all characters are at their most recent abilities, so Kabuto can't use Sasori or Shin. As the series progresses Kabuto can only become weaker by the BG's standards, disregarding the fact that he has an unknown jutsu.

12-26-2010, 06:35 PM	#8
tyrell4life194 Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Not of your concern Posts: 4,247 Rep Power: 0	Re: Official Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Well, here's my Top Tier List. Correct me if I'm wrong. Top Tier Kabuto Pain Madara Itachi Naruto Sasuke A So, how is it? Do I need a few replacements? Are some out of order?

12-26-2010, 08:34 PM	#12
Yori Cool Hwip Sierra Mist Disciple Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Depends. Where does your girl live? Posts: 16,782 Rep Power: 15 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Official Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Kabuto no question should be number one. That guy has an army as his tools. Following up is Madara and then Pain. __________________ That North North, That Up Top, that OVO and That XO...

12-26-2010, 08:43 PM	#13
J-Sun Tasogare is secretly a carebear Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 21,287 Rep Power: 16	Re: Official Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Kabuto (WITH PREP) is number 1 not just plain old Kabuchimaru, Lowest tier should be along the lines of; Sakura Choji (Part 1) Hinata Tenten Konohamaru Tenten (Part 1) Ino Karin Sakura (Part 1) Ino (Part One)

12-26-2010, 08:44 PM	#14
Devil's Lawyer Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hell Posts: 2,962 Rep Power: 0	Re: Official Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Edo tensei requires massive prep and really if he were to start with no prep and facing someone like Naruto in sage or demon mode he would get blitzed. Then there is the issue his zombies wouldn't care if he was killed.

12-26-2010, 09:38 PM	#15
Kuromaki Sage of Starbucks Coffee Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: holla holla get $ Posts: 18,098 Rep Power: 15 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Official Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Couple questions... Should we still keep the Edo Tensei rule? Why not just have the characters living and in their most able forms, cause a lot of people would be much weaker without zombie hax :/ Are we including Part 1 characters, and will this be hype, feats, or a mix of both? __________________ My reaction to 599 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Kuromaki; 12-26-2010 at 09:44 PM.

12-27-2010, 01:59 AM	#16
Nyruss Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 8,050 Rep Power: 0	Re: Official Naruto Tier List - Group Debate The soul determines the character. Edo Tenseis are Haku and Zabuza and whoever else. Different body same soul. Same deal for Orochimaru. Do Orochimaru's feats suddenly not count because they weren't performed in his original body? The only reason he's in a different body is because of a ninjutsu. Edo Tensei = character. Anyone who disgrees is a Fascist.

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