Spoiler Chapter 520 Discussion

[zerosameri]

@Err: well he needs new frames.
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[TheBlackChidori]

Happy to know that all my Shisui theories are still completely in tact.

Kishi tied up so many loose ends this week.

[Hando Craap]

Originally Posted by zerosameri

I still don't understand why the chain to his shield thing goes up his sleeve. Also on page 11 last panel how did Kabuto get blood behind his glasses?

Although you would think blood shoots out of a belly in a steam-line,it does not.As the knife goes in the blood will escape in angles around the knife,and at different velocities.So some probably came out in a slower rate and "lofted" over the glasses,on under his eye,or the entry wound was either higher or lower than his "kneeling" eye level.

[deidara330]

Spoiler:

I don't know about you guys, but I LOL'd a little. "Here's two people; You revive the one I just killed with the other one."

So now Fu and Torune are officially dead. That's.... I would say that's too bad, but they didn't really have relevance to the story and I don't see how they could've done anything in their position anyways. Plus they haven't done anything to make me feel sympathetic for them.

The most important thing that this chapter explained, above all else, is why we didn't see Kabuto for such a massive freaking long time. He became aware of Edo Tensei's requirements via experimentation (like I would've expected anything less from him) and since then he's been collecting the DNA of as many Shinobi as he could. Now let's take a moment to think about what this means.

He collected the DNA of Itachi. When? The Akatsuki collected Itachi's body very shortly after he died. Does this mean that between the time Sasuke went unconcious and Madara and Zetsu arrived to collect the two he collected a DNA sample from Itachi's body? But he couldn't have known about that requirement of Edo Tensei by that time since he'd only recently obtained Orochimaru's powers after that. Therefore, he must've snuck into the Akatsuki hideout sometime before he met up with Madara. Surely Madara will soon realize that Kabuto has done this. Although, he could've obtained the DNA from elsewhere, but that's a much more difficult task as you don't just find DNA lying around everywhere holding up a huge sign saying "Pick me up and use me to revive a dead guy!".

Kabuto must also have snuck into several Akatsuki hideouts to obtain DNA samples of the corpses of Jinchuriki. Additionally, since he obtained DNA from Chiyo, he must've snuck into the Sand Village. That, or he obtained DNA from the site of the battle between her and Sasori. The same goes for both Kakuzu and Asuma, since their bodies were taken back to the Leaf. He either snuck into the Leaf Village completely unnoticed or obtained DNA samples from both of them at the sites of their respectives battles, which in either case is quite a feat.

Most impressive, however, is obtaining Nagato's DNA. Kabuto summoned Nagato when he met Madara at the Akatsuki hideout, before Madara got to Nagato's body. And Nagato's body was taken away and hidden by Konan directly after he died, so the only way he could've taken the DNA directly from the corpse is if he knew where Konan hid it and got there without Konan ever knowing about it. Now that'd be truly impressive.

So in total, Kabuto has collected the DNA of Sasori, Deidara, Kakuzu, Itachi Uchiha, Nagato, all deceased Jinchuriki, three Kages, Kimimaro Kaguya, Hiashi Hyuga, Dan, Chiyo, Haku, Zabuza Momochi, and Hanzo of the Salamander. Damn, that's impressive. And let's keep in mind that he required a living sacrifice for every one of them. And, even further in addition to that, the DNA of the person who spooked Madara. Now, Madara was astonished at the simple fact that Kabuto could even summon this person, and at the time he didn't know the requirement of DNA. But if you think about it now, Kabuto knew where the corpse was and obtained a DNA sample from this person. This could have greater meaning than we know.

So basically, this only further establishes that Kabuto is badass. He's so badass I feel compelled to call him Epic Badass.

And this really makes me wonder about Kishi as an author. Has he been planning every single character death, and even the location of every single character's death, for this single moment in which Kabuto revives them all, when he needed a DNA sample from all of them? Even though this is something I should expect from a manga author, it amazes me that Kishi set things up for this hundreds and hundreds of chapters before it even happens at all.

And I wrote all that about just a smaller part of the chapter.

[Hando Craap]

Originally Posted by deidara330

Spoiler:

I don't know about you guys, but I LOL'd a little. "Here's two people; You revive the one I just killed with the other one."

So now Fu and Torune are officially dead. That's.... I would say that's too bad, but they didn't really have relevance to the story and I don't see how they could've done anything in their position anyways. Plus they haven't done anything to make me feel sympathetic for them.

The most important thing that this chapter explained, above all else, is why we didn't see Kabuto for such a massive freaking long time. He became aware of Edo Tensei's requirements via experimentation (like I would've expected anything less from him) and since then he's been collecting the DNA of as many Shinobi as he could. Now let's take a moment to think about what this means.

He collected the DNA of Itachi. When? The Akatsuki collected Itachi's body very shortly after he died. Does this mean that between the time Sasuke went unconcious and Madara and Zetsu arrived to collect the two he collected a DNA sample from Itachi's body? But he couldn't have known about that requirement of Edo Tensei by that time since he'd only recently obtained Orochimaru's powers after that. Therefore, he must've snuck into the Akatsuki hideout sometime before he met up with Madara. Surely Madara will soon realize that Kabuto has done this. Although, he could've obtained the DNA from elsewhere, but that's a much more difficult task as you don't just find DNA lying around everywhere holding up a huge sign saying "Pick me up and use me to revive a dead guy!".

Kabuto must also have snuck into several Akatsuki hideouts to obtain DNA samples of the corpses of Jinchuriki. Additionally, since he obtained DNA from Chiyo, he must've snuck into the Sand Village. That, or he obtained DNA from the site of the battle between her and Sasori. The same goes for both Kakuzu and Asuma, since their bodies were taken back to the Leaf. He either snuck into the Leaf Village completely unnoticed or obtained DNA samples from both of them at the sites of their respectives battles, which in either case is quite a feat.

Most impressive, however, is obtaining Nagato's DNA. Kabuto summoned Nagato when he met Madara at the Akatsuki hideout, before Madara got to Nagato's body. And Nagato's body was taken away and hidden by Konan directly after he died, so the only way he could've taken the DNA directly from the corpse is if he knew where Konan hid it and got there without Konan ever knowing about it. Now that'd be truly impressive.

So in total, Kabuto has collected the DNA of Sasori, Deidara, Kakuzu, Itachi Uchiha, Nagato, all deceased Jinchuriki, three Kages, Kimimaro Kaguya, Hiashi Hyuga, Dan, Chiyo, Haku, Zabuza Momochi, and Hanzo of the Salamander. Damn, that's impressive. And let's keep in mind that he required a living sacrifice for every one of them. And, even further in addition to that, the DNA of the person who spooked Madara. Now, Madara was astonished at the simple fact that Kabuto could even summon this person, and at the time he didn't know the requirement of DNA. But if you think about it now, Kabuto knew where the corpse was and obtained a DNA sample from this person. This could have greater meaning than we know.

So basically, this only further establishes that Kabuto is badass. He's so badass I feel compelled to call him Epic Badass.

And this really makes me wonder about Kishi as an author. Has he been planning every single character death, and even the location of every single character's death, for this single moment in which Kabuto revives them all, when he needed a DNA sample from all of them? Even though this is something I should expect from a manga author, it amazes me that Kishi set things up for this hundreds and hundreds of chapters before it even happens at all.

And I wrote all that about just a smaller part of the chapter.

And there could be simpler answers...Orochimaru could have collected some or all while he was in Akatsuki also.He could just take credit for it.

Or he used Orochimarus spies and gathered the intel before or after he got killed.

Which leaves me to think... Why think about it?Just enjoy the series or quit the series...lol

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by Hando Craap

And there could be simpler answers...Orochimaru could have collected some or all while he was in Akatsuki also.He could just take credit for it.

Or he used Orochimarus spies and gathered the intel before or after he got killed.

Which leaves me to think... Why think about it?Just enjoy the series or quit the series...lol

The Akatsuki didn't have any Jinchuriki before the timeskip, and at that time Orochimaru wasn't in it. They probably had a few DNA samples, but having all the ones Kabuto had is unlikely.

He is Orochimaru's spy. Until Sasori died, he was spying on the Akatsuki.

It may be hard to believe, but to me this is enjoying the series. I'm very interested to think how Kabuto must've traveled across half the Naruto world and gone to such lengths to collect DNA.

[Hando Craap]

Originally Posted by deidara330

The Akatsuki didn't have any Jinchuriki before the timeskip, and at that time Orochimaru wasn't in it. They probably had a few DNA samples, but having all the ones Kabuto had is unlikely.

He is Orochimaru's spy. Until Sasori died, he was spying on the Akatsuki.

It may be hard to believe, but to me this is enjoying the series. I'm very interested to think how Kabuto must've traveled across half the Naruto world and gone to such lengths to collect DNA.

The 1st paragraph...oh yeah...lol
I love the series also.To be honest this is the 1st manga I ever read. It has me searching for more now.

On a personal note my wife is on buisness in New Orleans,walking Bourbon St.,with co-workers and her companies clients and lit like I never heard her talk.She say's to me she can't talk right now cause she can't walk and talk at the same time.WWWWAAAAYYY to much to drink...lol

[GwynethUchiha]

Tobi is mean...............but asm at the same time

[3littlepigs]

Loved this chapter!! Love how Kishi confirmed so many things for us while still making it interesting. Not too sure about the new Rasengan still....of course give it a couple more tries and Naruto will master it but again it's just another big Rasengan....I'll keep complaining about this for a while lol

I think this chapter was really needed to confirm why Minato and Jiraya can't be brought back. Without really intending to Pain did help his master at the end....he wasn't able to bring him back but saved both Naruto and Jiraya from having to fight each other.

Not sure how I feel about Madara telling Kabuto he's watching him and confirming that he doesn't trust him. I mean he had the advantage up until now letting Kabuto think he wasn't really thinking he could pull any tricks at any time and ruin Madara's plan but now Kabuto has more chances of winning this "duel"...

Still think the other Kages should have split more evenly...how come Gaara is the only one on the front lines? he can be killed faster and then the Sand Village would be at a disadvantage and at a loss....

I was right lol next chapter we'll see Kakashi in action, I can't wait....Gai seems better too...hopefully they'll work together but none of them will be killed.

Originally Posted by Kakuzu111

Its out. YUS!

It was intresting to finally find out why the hokages and Jiraiya cnnot be summoned, but why not Orochimaru? He has plenty of his DNA... If he were to bring back ALL six paths of pain, it would be an powerful addition to the party.

I wonder what Kabuto is hiding. He obviously wants to corrupt Madara and/or his plan somehow... He claims he still has "alot up his sleeve." We'll have to wait and see....

I guess we've seen what we needed to see out of the sannin... also wouldn't it be a waste of everything to bring Oro back when he is basically Oro like he said. He has all his powers...the only thing missing is the personality but then again Oro would still be controlled by Kabuto so what's the point? I'm sure Jiraya was pretty high on his list but like he said it wasn't possible (unless that's one of his tricks up his sleeve to lure Naruto out).

The six Pain's were all pretty much Nagato so he would need to bring him back first....I doubt Madara would give Kabuto that much power so he's never telling him where Nagato's body is...remember Konan hid it well. Also, Nagato himself needed 6 bodies so that's six more bodies Kabuto needs to use and that's more chakra running out since each Pain only works for one technique..it really worked perfectly because Nagato knew how to use them at the same time and all...IMO it would be too much for Kabuto to handle at the moment while he's controlling all those other summonings.

[Uchiha Raimaru]

Originally Posted by SilentBlade

Excellent chapter, answers several recuring questions!

Yes. Yes it does. A great chapter indeed

Originally Posted by Sasori

Also glad to know the Second Hokage was actually able to do something other than Water Jutsu. =3

I think when Kabuto first used Edo Tensei to bring back Akatsuki in front of Tobi, he said the Second could use it . . . but that's beside the point. This makes you wonder what else the Second had under his sleeve.

Originally Posted by DeemonFox

I hope that's not the only ace up his sleeve.

It's definitely not. Kabuto said that he's not worried about telling Madara how Edo Tensei works because he had another ace in the hole.

Originally Posted by Kakuzu111

It was intresting to finally find out why the hokages and Jiraiya cnnot be summoned, but why not Orochimaru?

Well, Orochimaru's soul is split up between two places, neither of which are accessible.

Hiruzen sealed part of his soul with the Reaper Death Seal and Itachi sealed the rest of Orochimaru's soul in a never-ending genjutsu with the Totsuka Sword.

Anyway, nice chapter. Very possible we'll see Kakashi vs. Zabuza/Haku. That'll be AWESOME!

I wonder, though . . . After Kabuto explained how Edo Tensei worked, Madara didn't mention the coffin that we never saw, the one that freaked him out. I kinda expected Madara to say, "Well, how'd you get the DNA for THAT person?" So maybe that person's DNA isn't hard to acquire? We'll see. I'm still not buying the Tobi=Madara thing.

[gama-sennin]

The second Hokage is getting more and more mysterious with every few chapters. The Hokages are supposed to be the ones who care for human life and I dont think any other Hokage would have developed a technique that needs live sacrifice. The "Tobirama" kid had some evil going on and there is no doubt about that...

[3littlepigs]

Originally Posted by gama-sennin

The second Hokage is getting more and more mysterious with every few chapters. The Hokages are supposed to be the ones who care for human life and I dont think any other Hokage would have developed a technique that needs live sacrifice. The "Tobirama" kid had some evil going on and there is no doubt about that...

lol it's funny but that's exactly what I was thinking...even more considering the fact that he was Hashirama's brother...

[EvL j3st3r]

Awsome chap! So many answered questions, And it was freaking epic to See Madara lay down the law with Kabuto. I think Kabuto actually lost his cool for like a fraction of a second! lol. He was all like "uh uh uh" and then had to give himself a little pep talk in his head.

[Uchiha Raimaru]

Originally Posted by deidara330

I'm very interested to think how Kabuto must've traveled across half the Naruto world and gone to such lengths to collect DNA.

This explains where he was for that span of, I dunno, like, 100 chapters?

Still, I hate Kabuto as a character. That's just me, though.

[Vivi]

Guarantee ya's Kabuto is lying about the no Risk part.
As soon as Madara uses it he's doomed.

[Phariah824]

i enjoyed the chapter alot. Kishi finally bringing things together. also confirms Kabuto is planning a move beyond being Madara's peon. can't wait for the full army battle coming up.

[DeemonFox]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Guarantee ya's Kabuto is lying about the no Risk part.
As soon as Madara uses it he's doomed.

Who would Madara be tempted to use it on?

[gama-sennin]

Originally Posted by DeemonFox

Who would Madara be tempted to use it on?

Himself...

[Yori]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Guarantee ya's Kabuto is lying about the no Risk part.
As soon as Madara uses it he's doomed.

Foreshadowing big time but I think Madara is putting that Jutsu in the no-no list. He no its some type of huge risk to bring back the dead.

[TheBlackChidori]

Originally Posted by DeemonFox

Who would Madara be tempted to use it on?

Izuna.