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Old 10-17-2010, 07:57 PM   #1
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Default Re: Speed vs. Power vs. Defence

This all depends on the amount of each.

I would say Defense is the greatest.
If you can't hurt your opponent then, they have don't have to have great speed or power.
Speed does nothing against something it can't hurt.

The only threat is if the Power of the attacking force is greater.

Power means nothing when you can't catch the enemy, meaning speed is greater than power.
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All are worthless without the other, unless you have omniversal busting capability, are FTL, or have infinite durability, then everyone else is screwed.

Speed: It's great, you're opponent can't hit you if they can't catch you, but if it's all you got, then you can't hurt them.

Power: Also great, but what's the point if you can't hurt your opponent because they are to fast or have great defense?

Defense: Great, but alone, you can stand there and tank things. Before to long, you die. If you can't fight back, or can't get out of the way, you're boned.
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Contradictions and such, each have something to do with the other. If you read the above two posts and don't see it then you wouldn't know the answer anyway.
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I usually like to stick with speed and power. If you are fast, you don't need to worry about being hit too much and if you are strong you can hit your opponent hard while on the move. This is my method in the Devil May Cry series,especially in 3 and 4. I avoid the defensive class and stick with the offensive classes and dodge roll.
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Well if anything defense is the best, if they can't hurt you it doesn't matter how fast or strong they are, but if you have all defense you can't hurt them either so you need power to back it up.
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It depends since a good defense is useless without any offensive power. I would say that offense is easily the best since it can cheat by acting as a good defense. >.> Speed is good, but it depends on who you are fighting. If you are fast and fighting an homunculus like Pride, good luck on surviving without ed's plot powers. On the other side, if you are fast and fighting another human, then it is rolfstompo.o...
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Well if anything defense is the best, if they can't hurt you it doesn't matter how fast or strong they are, but if you have all defense you can't hurt them either so you need power to back it up.


You won't need to hurt them if your defense is good.
If they wear themselves out trying to kill you, then minimal power is going to be needed to kill them.
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This is a paradox. Unstoppable Force/Immovable Object/Etc.
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I would say speed, but of course the others are important.
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Which one is better?
It's sort of like Rock,Scissors,Paper.

You can have all the Power but it means nothing if you are as slow as a Snail and cannot take anything.
You can have all the Speed but if you lack Power and Defense you go down.
Same with Defense.Sooner or later you go down if you lack Power and Speed.


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If they wear themselves out trying to kill you, then minimal power is going to be needed to kill them.
And then the Most Powerful attack meets the best Defense.

Nothing is better cause they each balance each other out leaving no best Attribute.
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It's sort of like Rock,Scissors,Paper.

You can have all the Power but it means nothing if you are as slow as a Snail and cannot take anything.
You can have all the Speed but if you lack Power and Defense you go down.
Same with Defense.Sooner or later you go down if you lack Power and Speed.




And then the Most Powerful attack meets the best Defense.

Nothing is better cause they each balance each other out leaving no best Attribute.
Ah, this may be true, but if they were all equal, then it would come down to a matter of stamina.

Speed and Power both require energy behind them for them to be effective, with good defense, lal you really need to do is stand their and tank their attacks.

If all were equal, Defense would win simply with time.
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good defense requires that u have both speed and power. u can't defend urself if ur too slow to match ur opponent's moves. if ur fast enough to match their moves but can't block or tank a hit for lack of power, ur screwed too.
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Speed ensures ultimate defense and power, as one who employs cannot be touched but can touch.

Power does not employ speed or defense.
An explosive brute cannot defend or evade.

Defense does not employ speed or power.
He who hides in a shell cannot attack or evade.

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A sheild can only defend.

A sword can only attack

A man can do all three.

With speed you can protect yourself from harm, with speed you can attack opponents repeatedly. With speed you can move yourself from point A to point B without much notice. Speed is most important in this manga in particular.
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All of them = each other.

Speed = Defense = Attack.

If I am moving fast enough to out run you and then turn around and jet at you while I throw a punch to crack you jaw open. That is WAY more then me standing still and throwing one, however I still have to use a lot of speed and not have enough time to gather my punch due not having a solid base to throw it, as a pose to the standing still one.

Now as for blocking you can't really block with speed only evade, while your moving you body changes and you can't make a good base and block with, now standing still and only slightly moving you can block anything.
Cool.

Defense does not equal speed.

Power does not equal speed.

Speed equals the lot.

Now way around it, so you probably shouldn't lose your patience with me.
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I made this thread a while back.

They all need each other to win a fight.
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I made this thread a while back.

They all need each other to win a fight.

Nahh.

Speed overwhelms power and defense, quite simply.
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So if somebody with Mountain Busting durability were to defend against a hypersonic child's toy, it would kill the Mountain Busting durability guy?
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So if somebody with Mountain Busting durability were to defend against a hypersonic child's toy, it would kill the Mountain Busting durability guy?
Yes.

The child's toy would rocket into the idiot's mouth, and tear apart his insides.

My point is, with speed, there is always an opening, Always.
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