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Old 10-23-2010, 01:46 PM   #941
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Can Kisame beat A, but not Killer Bee?

I think Sakura could beat Shizune, but could she beat Anko?

Can Minato beat Chiyo?
Hachibi menacing ball could take him out if it comes to that.

You totally skipped Torune, and Anko hardly has anything in her arsenal that could beat Sakura except for those shooting snake things that Sakura could dodge.

Gamabunta smash.
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Chiyo dodges Gamabunta. The puppets likewise fly around Gamabunta and kill the crap out of Suckato.
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Chiyo dodges Gamabunta. The puppets likewise fly around Gamabunta and kill the crap out of Suckato.
Minato was able to summon Gamabunta on top of Kyubi, why not Chiyo?

Chiyo could win with 10 Puppets assuming that she can survive a Bunta attack, but then summoning them gives Minato an opening.
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why is kakashi higher than itachi?
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Minato was able to summon Gamabunta on top of Kyubi, why not Chiyo?
Chiyo's got better feats than the Kyuubi. By which I mean she has feats period.

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And the opening could be exploited by someone who doesn't suck. Unfortunately, Failato lacks this distinction.

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why is kakashi higher than itachi?
Kamui, presumably.
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U know what I find hilarious? Its that Hoshigaki is stronger than Uchiha Itachi yet he follows his orders like a dumbass.
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Maybe Itachi was the brains of the operation. Kisame was dumb muscle, perhaps.
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well once you make eye contact which is hard to avoid in battle
unless your nagato(maybe) madara or sasuke
if your fighting itachi ull lose
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Chiyo's got better feats than the Kyuubi. By which I mean she has feats period.



And the opening could be exploited by someone who doesn't suck. Unfortunately, Failato lacks this distinction.
Kyubi showed a menacing ball and through powerscaling and common sense, he should be far superior to his lower tailed forms, which showed a lot of feats. Gamabunta could serve as a distraction too, since Chiyo would be focusing on him rather than Minato.

While Chiyo is summoning them, Minato could scatter kunai around, and warp to Chiyo. Hard to say though since it's a close match.
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well once you make eye contact which is hard to avoid in battle
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if your fighting itachi ull lose
There's really no reason to make eye contact in some cases.

Anyway Kakashi's only that high because of Kamui, which Itachi might even be able to avoid.
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It has, actually, and I don't think he would stand there and let Susanoo take a swing at him. He could also try attacking Itachi's Susanoo and once he figures that he can't do crap to it, he can try flying away with his bird or just avoiding the sword.

If Sasuke used full Susanoo, chances are it would be at a longer range because of the arrows, and Totsuka can only reach so far. By attacking Itachi's Susanoo from far away he would realize that it's indestructible.

All in all, Itachi could win with Susanoo, but Sasuke could still escape it or outlast him. I don't see a way how he could win otherwise because Sasuke showed better Ammy control and already knew how to break out of his strongest Genjutsu.
Well, I doubt Itachi would just stand their and let him get the time to gain distance, deactivate Sasano'o, summon his hawk, and fly away.

Arrows would not do anything against Yata Mirror which was able to deflect Kirin.

And Sasuke never showed the ability to break out to Tsuykiyomi, he only broke out of those normal genjutsu's that Itachi used to mindf**k him in their fight.

The only thing Sasuke beats Itachi in, basically, is stamina and Ammy control.
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Well, I doubt Itachi would just stand their and let him get the time to gain distance, deactivate Sasano'o, summon his hawk, and fly away.

Arrows would not do anything against Yata Mirror which was able to deflect Kirin.

And Sasuke never showed the ability to break out to Tsuykiyomi, he only broke out of those normal genjutsu's that Itachi used to mindf**k him in their fight.

The only thing Sasuke beats Itachi in, basically, is stamina and Ammy control.
Itachi could barely walk when he had Susanoo on, and why would Sasuke stay close to him if he uses it? Summoning the bird doesn't take a long time either.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. Sasuke would see that they can't do anything to Itachi which is when he realizes that using his own Susanoo isn't the best approach.

He did, unless that monochromatic illusion wasn't Tsukuyomi.

Or my memory of that fight could just be bad.
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Kyubi showed a menacing ball and through powerscaling and common sense
Powerscaling and common sense are all well and good when it matters, but this list is based on feats.

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Because...?

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Good thing Chiyo has better reaction speeds than Minato, so even in the event that he somehow manages to survive long enough to place a kunai near her, she kills him the second he pops up.
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Itachi could barely walk when he had Susanoo on, and why would Sasuke stay close to him if he uses it? Summoning the bird doesn't take a long time either.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. Sasuke would see that they can't do anything to Itachi which is when he realizes that using his own Susanoo isn't the best approach.

He did, unless that monochromatic illusion wasn't Tsukuyomi.

Or my memory of that fight could just be bad.
He did break free of Tsukuyomi, but it could be argued that Itachi allowed him to do so. :/
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Because...?



Good thing Chiyo has better reaction speeds than Minato, so even in the event that he somehow manages to survive long enough to place a kunai near her, she kills him the second he pops up.
Man you rely too much on your feats, it would be stupid if full 9 tails was weaker than 6 tails. The Kyubi actually showed a menacing ball so it's not entirely featless. In this case, though, it doesn't matter, since Gamabunta was able to stop Kyubi from forming one and he's pretty big, meaning that Chiyo won't have a really easy time dodging him.

Because Gamabunta is huge and would cause Chiyo some trouble, she'd have to focus on her puppets.

While she's holding those scrolls?
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It could, or maybe he was just using his skill with the Sharingan and Itachi knew.
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why is kakashi higher than itachi?

Kamui is very high tier.
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Man you rely too much on your feats, it would be stupid if full 9 tails was weaker than 6 tails.
Again, by your own words, the list is based on feats. Maybe it would be stupid f the Kyuubi were weaker than KN6, but that's the way it's gotta be since this is a list based on feats.

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The difficulty in dodging Gamabunta is more than offset by the ease in killing Suckato.

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First she's focusing all her attention on Gamabunta, now you say she's only paying attention to her puppets. You are aware that Chiyo is capable of multitasking, right?

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It says they're judged mainly by feats, Dude. Actually it doesn't matter if Kyubi is featless in this particular debate because Minato was able to quickly summon Bunta on top of him.

I meant to say that she was focusing on Gamabunta, my bad.

If she can pull the 10 puppets off then she wins, but she has to deal with Minato's boss summon first.
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If Minato dies the presence of a boss summon ceases to matter, even if he is 1 yoctosecond away from curshing her to death.
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Actually, Naruto would have to die as well.

And what the hell is a yoctosecond?
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A yoctosecond is one septillionth of a second.

1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 of 1 second.
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