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Old 10-07-2010, 01:05 AM   #41
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Zetsu has the ability to copy anyone abilities and chakra. That will be a serious slaughter on the shinobi alliance. Most of the shinobi they have arent ranked enough to face a regular Zetsu.
Zetsu's ability also is limited. He maybe able to copy abilities but his chakra has limit. For example, Zetsu wont be able to copy Naruto's ability and his chakra resercw. raikage easily took down one zetsu without any effort
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Zetsu's ability also is limited. He maybe able to copy abilities but his chakra has limit. For example, Zetsu wont be able to copy Naruto's ability and his chakra resercw. raikage easily took down one zetsu without any effort
He is the raikage also dont forget about the tailed beasts.
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Yes, but the fact that he easily took Zetsu down proved that Zetsu is not a threat to the Raikage. Madara should have used the power of the tailed beast for himself.. Right? haha why the heck are u arguing with me anyways haha
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Im sure Kishi has something up his sleeve, I didnt quite understand the whole Zetsu army clone thing either but we' ll see Imma wait and Im sure something big will come
I liked it overall.
x3 can't wait for sasuke's new eyes btw
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Im sure Kishi has something up his sleeve, I didnt quite understand the whole Zetsu army clone thing either but we' ll see Imma wait and Im sure something big will come
I liked it overall.
x3 can't wait for sasuke's new eyes btw
Of course he does. He always does. The 100,000 Zetsu clones purpose was just to make the reader think the villagers are outmatch having only 80,000 people. But you have to look at it more critically.
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Awesome Chapter I love Madara new looked. He look the most epic Bad manga bad guy ever now, how did the first Hokage get in the Staute anyway??? As for the army of zetsus what the devil?? that just even more awesome Kishi is doing a an awesome job on Naruto now^^ I can't for for next week chapter now
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Actually, Zetsu having something to do with the 1st would explain why he has that plant look xD. This can almost close the files on zetsu, the only remaining missing pieces is the black one...

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Again Star Wars reference! An army of 1 hundred thousand WHITE clones! xD


Perhaps White Zetsu=Something to do with 1st Hokage

and Black Zetsu=Something to do with the 2nd Hokage.
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Perhaps White Zetsu=Something to do with 1st Hokage

and Black Zetsu=Something to do with the 2nd Hokage.
2nd Hokage the darker side of Konoha?

He was Danzo's role model after all.
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2nd Hokage the darker side of Konoha?

He was Danzo's role model after all.

Well either that or Black Zetsu has something to do with Madara Uchiha....


But I think the 2nd Hokage/Zetsu thing would be much more cool.
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The island moves..... Amazing. But how ancient is this turtle, exactly? Could it have lived long enough to have seen the Sage of the Six Paths himself? That's what I wondered when I read "...since ancient times".

Kabuto's getting a little ambitious. Eight-Tails and Nine-Tails? He better have some serious power to think he can take them.

But he has Deidara with him. See, Raikage said, "It can only be seen from the clouds," and Deidara kinda flies in the clouds, so yeah. They'll find the island.

Gaara and Onoki are coming as backup, though. Deidara and Gaara already fought once, and Deidara is from Onoki's village, so with their combined intel on his abilities, creating a plan to fight him shouldn't be difficult even if they don't already know he's been revived. Although, this is assuming they even intercept Deidara and Kabuto at all.

I'm hoping the Giant Squid makes a comeback and attacks Kabuto and Deidara randomly.

Oh, and 100,000 Zetsu army? Pwnage. Outnumbers the Alliance by 20,000 troops. Of course, we'll have to wait and see what these Zetsu's can do. If they're really weak, then when it comes to Jonin, these Zetsu won't make much of a difference. But if they're powerful, even giving Jonin a hard time, then the Ninja Alliance is going to have massive trouble winning.
Kabuto said he'd make Zetsu stronger, so its likely the Ninja Alliance will be severely outnumbered, by strong forces.

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She used her intelligence to not agree with any old thing the Raikage said, Konoha and Kumogakure haven't had the best past together, its only natural to be suspicious. Least she used her intelligence, unlike someone else we know , who retardedly got killed by Sasgay
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Why is Kishi still persisting with the Tobi thingy?? There was absolutely no need for Zetsu to call him Tobi in presence of Kabuto...Unless, of course, he is indeed just Tobi....
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Kabuto said he'd make Zetsu stronger, so its likely the Ninja Alliance will be severely outnumbered, by strong forces.



She used her intelligence to not agree with any old thing the Raikage said, Konoha and Kumogakure haven't had the best past together, its only natural to be suspicious. Least she used her intelligence, unlike someone else we know , who retardedly got killed by Sasgay

Tsunade lives in a world where a giant super powered nine tailed fox
lives inside a 16 year old boy. Not believing the Raikage when he says
that the island can move isn't intelligent in the least. Why would
Raikage lie about a moving island in the first place? What would
Raikage gain from such a lie? Tsunade's skepticism isn't due to
her intelligence it's due to her lack of experience. Yes she's
been around for a while but she's pretty clueless as to how things work.

Danzo on the other hand, has much more experience.
He knows the ropes. Danzo died trying to get rid of
Sasuke. It was not retarded. It was necessary.
Danzo took the fall for Tsunade. If Tsunade encountered
Sasuke during the Kage Meeting Arc she would have
been killed since she is weaker than Sasuke.
Tsunade doesn't have the guts to deal with Sasuke.
Danzo did. Who's the real coward? Tsunade.
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Tsunagay would never deal with a true threat, she cowered at the fact of Pain
But at least she acted
But Id like to see Kabutomarut kick her in the face... one last... time...
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I can't believe that tard kabuto is using ressurected deidara It just broke my heart when I saw is half dead body </3
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Anyway..

Madara's got a awesome army there, and they will easily find naruto and bee, I mean, in that giant army Im sure there are any chakra sensors.. and that giant turtle must have ALOT of chakra, so no big deal, on the other hand, I'm completely sure kabuto will fail, I mean, he can use all the ressurected people that he wants, but naruto is the main character, he is not going to be captured XD
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Tsunade lives in a world where a giant super powered nine tailed fox
lives inside a 16 year old boy. Not believing the Raikage when he says
that the island can move isn't intelligent in the least. Why would
Raikage lie about a moving island in the first place? What would
Raikage gain from such a lie? Tsunade's skepticism isn't due to
her intelligence it's due to her lack of experience. Yes she's
been around for a while but she's pretty clueless as to how things work.

Danzo on the other hand, has much more experience.
He knows the ropes. Danzo died trying to get rid of
Sasuke. It was not retarded. It was necessary.
Danzo took the fall for Tsunade. If Tsunade encountered
Sasuke during the Kage Meeting Arc she would have
been killed since she is weaker than Sasuke.
Tsunade doesn't have the guts to deal with Sasuke.
Danzo did. Who's the real coward? Tsunade.
Yes. And she knows of the Nine Tails existance, because it completely thrashed the Village and killed much of Leafs population. Shes seen what the Nine Tailed chakra can do to Naruto, she knows its real. She's never seen a giant turtle in the form of a moving Island. Of course she's going to be skeptical. And not a clue why he'd lie. But with him trying to kidnap Hinata in the past, and waring with Konoha, she has to be somewhat skeptical. In the same way you would be skeptical, if I punched you in the face after asking to look at your nose , then a week later, I ask to look at your nose again. You'd be hesistant to let me do so. Random example, but you get the point lul Tsunade competed in the Second Shinobi War, has completed over a 1000 missions. Became so profficient in battle she became known as one of the Sannin, was taught by the Third Hokage, and learned many S Rank Techniques, even making some herself. To say she has a lack of experience - is the most stupid thing one could say. She's tempramental, and gets angry when the Elders don't choose to have faith in the younger generation. Hence why they think shes inexperienced. There's a difference.

Actually, there's been no proof of Danzo having ' much more experience ' he was in charge of Root. We know he was taught by Tobirama, that he was roughly on par with Hiruzen as a child. He's intelligent, and he's been in the Village a long time. I'm not doubting he's inexperienced, but for all we know. Danzo could've stepped down from being an active fighting ninja at the Age of 40 or 50. And went to command Root. Sure, that requires battle tactics. As does leading a Village. Biggest mistake Tsunades ever made was letting Sasuke leave Konoha, hardly a tactical problem. A Genin, wandering the streets of Konoha most certainly isn't a threat. If he did leave the Village, it was patrols fault, not Tsunades specifically. Danzo died failing to kill Sasuke, blowing himself up did little more than prove he wanted to kill him. Which we already knew.

If it had been Tsunade in the Kage meeting. She wouldnt have tried to mind control someone and have one of her bodyguards attack other Kages bodyguards. If it had been Tsunade in that Kage meeting - she wouldn't have been attacked head on, since Sasuke was aiming to kill Danzo ; an elder. Tsunade used all her chakra to save Konoha, and then even though in an incapable battle condition - she still jumped down to fight Pein. And Pein>>>Sasuke. The only thing stopping Tsunade from killing Sasuke is the fact that he is Narutos friend, but as an international criminal, she'd attack him - if he attacked her. After all, he is part of the organisation which killed Jiraiya, Asuma, Chiyo, Hiruzen and destroyed her Village , twice. She most certainly has the guts.
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Tsunagay would never deal with a true threat, she cowered at the fact of Pain
But at least she acted
But Id like to see Kabutomarut kick her in the face... one last... time...
Sorry wut? What part of saving every single person in the Village from being reduced to a pile of bloody mush. And jumping down to fight pein even though in a weakened state - is cowering? She faced Pein head on, Id should hardly think she cowarded.

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and Black Zetsu=Something to do with the 2nd Hokage.

Woow that makes perfect sense, but why would that happen??
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This war will be interesting since it will be a real war not just 9 people vs the world.
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true. i think its gonna be really interesting since the last 2 junikri are friends now and both have control over there tailed beasts. i think something is going to happen between naruto and sakura or naruto and hinata before the war.
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Yes. And she knows of the Nine Tails existance, because it completely thrashed the Village and killed much of Leafs population. Shes seen what the Nine Tailed chakra can do to Naruto, she knows its real. She's never seen a giant turtle in the form of a moving Island. Of course she's going to be skeptical.


So in order for Tsunade to realize something exists it has to destroy her village. Yeah, that's really brilliant, Princess. \

Anywho, the point is that if you know a giant Nine Tailed Fox exists
inside a 16 year old boy then why would a giant turtle island be
any less possible? The fox inside Naruto makes actually less sense
than a giant turtle island. It's fine for Tsunade to be surprised
that such an island exists. Even to be skeptical about it.
But Tsunade is just being difficult by refusing to believe Raikage.



And not a clue why he'd lie. But with him trying to kidnap Hinata in the past, and waring with Konoha, she has to be somewhat skeptical. In the same way you would be skeptical, if I punched you in the face after asking to look at your nose , then a week later, I ask to look at your nose again. You'd be hesistant to let me do so. Random example, but you get the point

If that was the case why allow Naruto to go to the island in the first
place? Sure she did make a hissy fit about it but she certainly didn't
try much of anything to actually get Naruto off the island or prevent
him from getting on the island in the first place.



lul Tsunade competed in the Second Shinobi War, has completed over a 1000 missions. Became so profficient in battle she became known as one of the Sannin, was taught by the Third Hokage, and learned many S Rank Techniques, even making some herself. To say she has a lack of experience - is the most stupid thing one could say.

Yes, she has done all that. But yet in all her travels and all the things
she's seen, especially all the outrageous stuff she's seen. She's unable
to realize something like a moving island could exist in their ninja world.
It's not like she's lives in this world where things are much more "down to earth". She lives in the ninja world where ninjas can walk on water.
She's seen all this amazing stuff. So either she still lacks experience
and has been too drunk or something the whole time or she's unable
to put two and two together and realize a moving island could
exist in the ninja world. Is it surprising? Maybe but not unheard of.



She's tempramental, and gets angry when the Elders don't choose to have faith in the younger generation. Hence why they think shes inexperienced. There's a difference.

Tsunade calls it having faith but really it's a gamble.


Actually, there's been no proof of Danzo having ' much more experience ' he was in charge of Root. We know he was taught by Tobirama, that he was roughly on par with Hiruzen as a child. He's intelligent, and he's been in the Village a long time. I'm not doubting he's inexperienced, but for all we know. Danzo could've stepped down from being an active fighting ninja at the Age of 40 or 50. And went to command Root. Sure, that requires battle tactics.

Danzo as the commander of The Foundation pretty much kept the village
intact until the Pain Invasion. Danzo and the Foundation did the dirty
work. As seen with the Hanya Ninja attack Konoha is constantly
under attack. Danzo and the Foundation take care of these would be assassins. If Danzo makes one wrong move the village is toast.
It takes a lot more than battle tactics to run the Foundation.
It takes Danzo.


As does leading a Village.

Yes, leading the village does take battle tactics.
Something Tsunade is terrible at. Know what her
battle tactics are basically "Recall Naruto."
In the meanwhile, the village is destroyed.


Biggest mistake Tsunades ever made was letting Sasuke leave Konoha, hardly a tactical problem. A Genin, wandering the streets of Konoha most certainly isn't a threat. If he did leave the Village, it was patrols fault, not Tsunades specifically.

Yes it IS a tactical problem when that Genin is the Leaf's ONLY Uchiha
and Orochimaru is the one trying to entice that Genin. It's Tsunade's
fault because the patrol weren't there because the patrol was doing
Tsunade's paperwork because Tsunade was asleep on the job.


Danzo died failing to kill Sasuke, blowing himself up did little more than prove he wanted to kill him. Which we already knew.

It proved that Danzo was willing to sacrifice all to stop Sasuke.


If it had been Tsunade in the Kage meeting. She wouldnt have tried to mind control someone and have one of her bodyguards attack other Kages bodyguards.

and yet it was Danzo's mind control that led to the ninja alliance
which the 5 Kages agreed upon eventually anyways.


Danzo's bodyguards attacked in self defense when Raikage got mad.


If it had been Tsunade in that Kage meeting - she wouldn't have been attacked head on, since Sasuke was aiming to kill Danzo

Sasuke hasn't met up with Tsunade yet. Yes it's true he definitely
wanted to kill Danzo but given he's tried to kill Sakura I doubt he
would hesitate to kill Tsunade who in case you forgot is the
grand daughter of the first hokage Hashirama Senju.




; an elder. Tsunade used all her chakra to save Konoha, and then even though in an incapable battle condition - she still jumped down to fight Pein. And Pein>>>Sasuke.

Naruto beat Pain. Not Tsunade.



The only thing stopping Tsunade from killing Sasuke is the fact that he is Narutos friend, but as an international criminal, she'd attack him - if he attacked her.

And she would lose. Tsunade is about equal to Orochimaru and Sasuke
defeated Orochimaru pretty much when he was much weaker.



After all, he is part of the organisation which killed Jiraiya, Asuma, Chiyo, Hiruzen and destroyed her Village , twice. She most certainly has the guts.

Maybe now. But not before she didn't.



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