Ulquiorra Vs. Kyuubi - Page 3

321zigzag3 · 10-04-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Anti-Existence

Oh.

We had that topic in the OBD actually. I made it. The posters there said Pein's move was stronger than even the Lances. Here's the thread.

Mind you, I have no idea on which is actually stronger as I'm bad with calcs and the like which is why I was asking people there.

On the plus side for Ulqy, he can actually spam his moves while Pein's attacks take some preparation.

That is true. I consider Pain's CST and CT > Lances but Ulquiorra can spam.

Its ironic though. Narutoverse has rarely any worth noting destructive users. Other than Deidara, Pain, KN6, Hachibi

Kakuzu Sasori and KN4 are much more limited.

FRS is a toss up.

The Anti-Existence · 10-04-2010, 03:56 PM

Naruto's biggest problem I always thought was durability. You could conceivably kill many of the characters with just bullets.

Speaking of Deidara, Gaara's Village-sized sand barrier was pretty neat. Of course he probably isn't that strong anymore since he has no Shukakku.

Bummer.

Bacon · 10-04-2010, 03:58 PM

The thing is, I thought the Kyuubi was a demon spirit;not a living fox with organs. >.>

The Anti-Existence · 10-04-2010, 04:04 PM

Well they are supposed to just be giant masses of chakra I thought but Kyuubi still has eyes. That's how Madara controlled it.

321zigzag3 · 10-04-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Anti-Existence

Naruto's biggest problem I always thought was durability. You could conceivably kill many of the characters with just bullets.

Speaking of Deidara, Gaara's Village-sized sand barrier was pretty neat. Of course he probably isn't that strong anymore since he has no Shukakku.

Bummer.

Well yes Naruto has even lower durability 99% of them barely superhuman too.

Gaara was great.

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Originally Posted by Bacon

The thing is, I thought the Kyuubi was a demon spirit;not a living fox with organs. >.>

What organs? Kyuubi is just a mass of chakra come to life.

Bacon · 10-04-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Anti-Existence

Well they are supposed to just be giant masses of chakra I thought but Kyuubi still has eyes. That's how Madara controlled it.

The way the Uchiha's control the Kyuubi's chakra is beyond me,but it might have been revealed sometime after 484? At any rate, it all comes down to the Kyuubi being too slow or weak to counter ulquiorra's attacks. Since it has been established that it has tanks mountain destroying attacks and the ability to produce mountain destroying attacks, ulquiiora is going to have to fight from afar.

The Kyuubi's chakra is volatile sometimes,making slashing it worthless.

It's make of chakra meaning slashing it as if it was a mortal being is worthless.

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Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Well yes Naruto has even lower durability 99% of them barely superhuman too.

Gaara was great.

What organs? Kyuubi is just a mass of chakra come to life.

So how exactly is speed blitzing it with hundreds of those javelins going to kill it? I honestly don't see a winner.

321zigzag3 · 10-04-2010, 04:12 PM

Unless we include Mental Kyuubi feats, Kyuubi hasn't shown repeated Town Level Lance spams so....not that the mental feats show to that level either.

colorles · 10-04-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Unless we include Mental Kyuubi feats, Kyuubi hasn't shown repeated Town Level Lance spams so....not that the mental feats show to that level either.

lol keep in mind that mental kyubi was many, many, many times smaller than the real thing. by the way has anyone bothered to do a size comparison calc? either was, the 'Kyubi' Naruto mentally defeated is only a very small fraction of the real thing

Bacon · 10-04-2010, 04:16 PM

Does the KN4's menacing ball attack that practically destroyed everything for miles when it hit Orochimaru's summoned wall improve? Meaning, would that be suffice to counter the lances and did the speed that the Kyuubi could generate them improve?

321zigzag3 · 10-04-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by colorles

lol keep in mind that mental kyubi was many, many, many times smaller than the real thing. by the way has anyone bothered to do a size comparison calc? either was, the 'Kyubi' Naruto mentally defeated is only a very small fraction of the real thing

Thats because Mental Kyuubi is 50%. Half of its chakra is in the Death God.

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Originally Posted by Bacon

Does the KN4's menacing ball attack that practically destroyed everything for miles when it hit Orochimaru's summoned wall improve? Meaning, would that be suffice to counter the lances and did the speed that the Kyuubi could generate them improve?

KN4's ball = few acres

KN6's ball = massively multi city blocks to very small mountain buster

Kyuubi's ball = mountain+ level

Bacon · 10-04-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Thats because Mental Kyuubi is 50%. Half of its chakra is in the Death God.

KN4's ball = few acres

KN6's ball = massively multi city blocks to very small mountain buster

Kyuubi's ball = mountain+ level

>.> It's been a while since I watched or read that particular arc,but my question remeans the same. Can the kyuubi's ball be generated fast enough to counter the javelins?

321zigzag3 · 10-04-2010, 04:26 PM

All he does it is charge the ball quickly and shoot.

KN4 is the one that took massive time to do it.

THE X UCHIHA · 10-04-2010, 05:54 PM

1. Nine-Tailed Fox Fire Stream ( Anime feat ) - burns Ulq’s steel skin.

2. K9T Menacing Ball. - nullifies all kinds of Cero
3. Nine-Tailed Fox Sonic Roar Or Nine-Tailed Fox Twister ( Anime feat ) - nullifies lance of lightning.
4. Red Chakra arms + 9 Tails beats = Grilled Ulq.

tyrell4life194 · 10-10-2010, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dudemeister

The Kyuubi is all hype and no featz. Base Ulquiorra takes this without using his sword.

I heard that you were legendary bro. I respect you. But may I show you some things? I'm not saying that you are wrong. So here I go.
1. KN4 blasted a large part of a forest towards Orochimaru, and gotten pierced by a sword, that didn't even land a scratch on him.
2. KN6 created a crater the size of Konoha village. It backtracted Pain's Shinra Tensei, that sended Pain flying for hundreds of feet.
3. KN8 broke out of a Chibaku Tensei. The Chibaku Tensei that Pain created was larger than a whole mountain range. Infact, it ripped chunks of rocks that were the size of mountains and masses of terrain.
Ulqiourra on the other hand also has great feats.
1. Ulqiourra stated that since he is one of the Top 4 espada, he can't release his power inside of Las Noches. So he has to go to the roof of it, so he won't destroy it.
2. Ulqiourra's cero oscuras destroyed Ichigo's mask, and completely dominated him.
3. Ulqiourra's second release form raped Hollow Form Ichigo.
4. His ultimate attack (I can't spell it sorry) has enough power to destroy a mountain.
5. He also has high speed regeneration, and healed his missing arm in a matter of seconds.
I don't know who wins, so I want to know what's your word on it.

Miles Edgeworth · 10-12-2010, 09:47 PM

The deal with Kyuubi is that it's not just hype he has on his side, common sense dictates that with the feats we got from KN8 and the concept that Kyuubi could be at all stronger, Kyuubi's power would far surpass Ulquiorra's.

The one and only issue I can see is speed.

Vatanui AKA Pride · 10-12-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles Edgeworth

The deal with Kyuubi is that it's not just hype he has on his side, common sense dictates that with the feats we got from KN8 and the concept that Kyuubi could be at all stronger, Kyuubi's power would far surpass Ulquiorra's.

The one and only issue I can see is speed.

From what I recall, KN8 only received two feats. The first one was surviving a part of Chibaku Tensei, since it wasn't at it's center or near it. The latter is pushing it's way out of several tons, aka a side of Chibaku Tensei. And need I remind you that Chibaku Tensei only applied crushing pressure of the equivalence of a mountain instead of attacking KN8 with the physical or energy force of a mountain, so it doesn't quite have mountain durability. And there is the fact that Ulqi can spam his lances, and with each lance destroying a town, I wouldn't exactly say that it'd take a long while for him to reach or surpass mountain busting.

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Originally Posted by colorles

lol keep in mind that mental kyubi was many, many, many times smaller than the real thing. by the way has anyone bothered to do a size comparison calc? either was, the 'Kyubi' Naruto mentally defeated is only a very small fraction of the real thing

Or 50% of it, as Ziggy stated.

THE X UCHIHA · 10-13-2010, 05:25 AM

Ulq. is no more. if Kyuubi Roared

Nyruss · 10-13-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tyrell4life194

I heard that you were legendary bro. I respect you. But may I show you some things? I'm not saying that you are wrong. So here I go.
1. KN4 blasted a large part of a forest towards Orochimaru, and gotten pierced by a sword, that didn't even land a scratch on him.
2. KN6 created a crater the size of Konoha village. It backtracted Pain's Shinra Tensei, that sended Pain flying for hundreds of feet.
3. KN8 broke out of a Chibaku Tensei. The Chibaku Tensei that Pain created was larger than a whole mountain range. Infact, it ripped chunks of rocks that were the size of mountains and masses of terrain.

Those are all Naruto's feats not the Kyuubi's.

Akatsuki X · 10-13-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by THE X UCHIHA

Ulq. is no more. if Kyuubi Roared

Your wrong.
Kyuubi roaring is the equivalent of Ulquiorra's massive spirit pressure in 2nd Ressurection actually holding it down like in the same manner as CST.

Bacon · 10-13-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudemeister

Those are all Naruto's feats not the Kyuubi's.

Feats that would be impossible without the Kyuubi's power.

10-04-2010, 03:56 PM	#42
The Anti-Existence Genin Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 211 Rep Power: 0	Re: Ulquiorra Vs. Kyubi Naruto's biggest problem I always thought was durability. You could conceivably kill many of the characters with just bullets. Speaking of Deidara, Gaara's Village-sized sand barrier was pretty neat. Of course he probably isn't that strong anymore since he has no Shukakku. Bummer.

10-04-2010, 03:58 PM	#43
Bacon Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Walkin' through the candy-lane with Tifa.~ -.- Posts: 29,683 Rep Power: 27 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Ulquiorra Vs. Kyubi The thing is, I thought the Kyuubi was a demon spirit;not a living fox with organs. >.> __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-04-2010, 04:04 PM	#44
The Anti-Existence Genin Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 211 Rep Power: 0	Re: Ulquiorra Vs. Kyubi Well they are supposed to just be giant masses of chakra I thought but Kyuubi still has eyes. That's how Madara controlled it.

10-04-2010, 04:12 PM	#47
321zigzag3 debates with words Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,034 Rep Power: 11	Re: Ulquiorra Vs. Kyubi Unless we include Mental Kyuubi feats, Kyuubi hasn't shown repeated Town Level Lance spams so....not that the mental feats show to that level either. __________________ Also known as 321zigzag1. Spoiler: ☼Hoshigaki Familia ☼ Freelancer

10-04-2010, 04:16 PM	#49
Bacon Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Walkin' through the candy-lane with Tifa.~ -.- Posts: 29,683 Rep Power: 27 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Ulquiorra Vs. Kyubi Does the KN4's menacing ball attack that practically destroyed everything for miles when it hit Orochimaru's summoned wall improve? Meaning, would that be suffice to counter the lances and did the speed that the Kyuubi could generate them improve? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-04-2010, 04:26 PM	#52
321zigzag3 debates with words Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,034 Rep Power: 11	Re: Ulquiorra Vs. Kyubi All he does it is charge the ball quickly and shoot. KN4 is the one that took massive time to do it. __________________ Also known as 321zigzag1. Spoiler: ☼Hoshigaki Familia ☼ Freelancer

10-04-2010, 05:54 PM	#53
THE X UCHIHA Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: On Earth Posts: 2,117 Rep Power: 6	Re: Ulquiorra Vs. Kyubi 1. Nine-Tailed Fox Fire Stream ( Anime feat ) - burns Ulq’s steel skin. 2. K9T Menacing Ball. - nullifies all kinds of Cero 3. Nine-Tailed Fox Sonic Roar Or Nine-Tailed Fox Twister ( Anime feat ) - nullifies lance of lightning. 4. Red Chakra arms + 9 Tails beats = Grilled Ulq. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-12-2010, 09:47 PM	#55
Miles Edgeworth Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Mystere Posts: 10,448 Rep Power: 12	Re: Ulquiorra Vs. Kyuubi The deal with Kyuubi is that it's not just hype he has on his side, common sense dictates that with the feats we got from KN8 and the concept that Kyuubi could be at all stronger, Kyuubi's power would far surpass Ulquiorra's. The one and only issue I can see is speed.

10-13-2010, 05:25 AM	#57
THE X UCHIHA Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: On Earth Posts: 2,117 Rep Power: 6	Re: Ulquiorra Vs. Kyuubi Ulq. is no more. if Kyuubi Roared __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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