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Old 09-07-2010, 08:21 AM   #21
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What Death states and what is actual Phoenix feats are two different things.
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"Phoenix Force can also restore Jean's body to life, although there appears to be some unknown limitation to how quickly it can successfully accomplish this following her death. " according to my source.

meaning she does revive but not instantly

Galactus - Resurrection: Ability to raise the dead. This ability also allows him to raise himself from death.

this suggest he could revive right away..


what does multiverse mean then?
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Raising back from the dead means putting the soul back into it's body, it does not mean you can come back if your entire body is disintegrated or your soul is erased from existence.
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Levitation: Galactus can make himself float and move through the air.
Size-Alteration: Ability to alter the physical size of persons or objects.
Molecular Restructuring: Ability to physically alter persons or objects through the manipulation of their comprising molecules.
Matter Transmutation: Ability to directly convert one form of matter into another form of matter. e.g. turning lead into gold.
Cosmic Teleportation: Ability to teleport beings and objects—even entire galaxies—across space and time. This ability also allows him to teleport himself.
Cosmic Force-Fields: Ability to erect completely impenetrable energy shields.
Cosmic Energy Projection: Ability to project energy with incalculable force.
Interdimensional & Intradimensional Portals: Ability to create wormholes between dimensions and within dimensions.
Cosmic Telepathy: Ability to read or communicate with other minds across universal distances.
Cosmic Telekinesis: Ability to move virtually unlimited amounts of mass through mental concentration.
Cosmic Awareness: Ability to sense disturbances or changes within the cosmic ether on a universal scale.
Resurrection: Ability to raise the dead. This ability also allows him to raise himself from death.
Creation: Ability to create complex, sentient, biological life-forms from nothing.
Soul Manipulation: Ability to manipulate the souls of living beings.
Recreation: Ability to remake even an entire Solar System, including populations, the planets etc in every detail.
Power Bestowal: Galactus' heralds, whom he has endowed with a minuscule fraction of his cosmic power, are able to manipulate matter and energy in ways far beyond human comprehension.
Vitakinesis: Galactus is able to heal himself and others from all physical wounds although this may simply be molecular reconstruction.


Lord Jiraiya- by the way how does Kal-El beat the Phoenix, i looked him up and he doesnt seem to be that powerful
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Kal-El Prime!

Take every power superman has ever had and put it on the level of incalculable.

Speed incalculable
Srength incalculable
Nothing at all can hurt him.
Immortal

Has no weakness what so ever

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Kal-El Prime!

Take every power superman has ever had and put it on the level of incalculable.

Speed incalculable
Srength incalculable
Nothing at all can hurt him.
Immortal

Has no weakness what so ever
yes but when i read the bio about him it didnt say that his immortal and he doesnt have mental blocks.. atleast not powerful enough to hold back something like the phoenix
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Phoenix and Galactus are not omnipotent in any way, shape or form. Anyone who claims they are need to die in a grease fire.

As for the fight, Galactus has been fought off by Phoenix bearers numerous times and, although I don't know whether it's actually true, I'm told that at full power the Phoenix Force > the Living Tribunal.

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yes but when i read the bio about him it didnt say that his immortal and he doesnt have mental blocks.. atleast not powerful enough to hold back something like the phoenix
I read the serie's, someone changed the wikia page about him, at one time the page did have all the power he had but now it just say's he gain and unknown amout of powers.

Here were the powers as I remember them.

Strength: Unlimited (Can move anything with No Problem at all)
Speed: Unlimited (Can be anywhere at anytime)
True Invulnerability: Nothing can hurt him at all.
Creation: can create a living being from nothing.
Resurrection: Can being the dead back to life.
Unlimited physical senses (sight, smell, touch, taste, hearing).
Super Sound: He could talk and everyone in the universe could hear him.
Super Breathe: Could blow wing powerful enough to wipe out
Eidetic memory: has complete recall of anything he has seen or heard.
Super Intelligence: He knows everything. (able to calculate over a billion scenarios simultaneously)
Immune: He is immune to Kryptonite, Red Sun/radiation, & Psionics)
(If you dont know what Psionics is, it's the power of telepathy or telekinsis)
Power Bestowal: able to bestowal anybody with any power (promised his successors greater powers if they pledged to always protect Earth and the solar system)

The writers of the series stated he has countless powers. Far to many to list.
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True Invulnerability: Nothing can hurt him at all.
There is no universe in which this is true.

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Super Sound: He could talk and everyone in the universe could hear him.
That's not sound.

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No he doesn't.
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Phoenix and Galactus are not omnipotent in any way, shape or form. Anyone who claims they are need to die in a grease fire.

As for the fight, Galactus has been fought off by Phoenix bearers numerous times and, although I don't know whether it's actually true, I'm told that at full power the Phoenix Force > the Living Tribunal.
The living tribunal is a class above phoenix.

The living tribunal is the judge of the cosmic entities who ensures that the cosmic laws are obeyed.
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There is no universe in which this is true.


That's not sound.

No he doesn't.
Dude i wont fight with you about this issue. I read it I know.
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The living tribunal is a class above phoenix.

The living tribunal is the judge of the cosmic entities who ensures that the cosmic laws are obeyed.
All right then.

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Dude i wont fight with you about this issue. I read it I know.
Just because you read it doesn't make it true.
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Just because you read it doesn't make it true.
the very creator of the issues (Grant Morrison) have stated he has a countless number of powers.
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He's wrong. Galactus only has one power. The Power Cosmic, which allows him to accomplish virtually any task.

Also, the number of Galactus' abilities are not being called into question. The claim that he's totally impervious to damage and completely omniscient are.
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Phoenix Force at full power is definitely not above the LT. The Living Tribunal governs over hundreds of multiverses and is second only to The One Above All.

As for this thread, it's hard to say. It depends on how well Galactus is. If he's well fed he should be able to win eventually.
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He's wrong. Galactus only has one power. The Power Cosmic, which allows him to accomplish virtually any task.

Also, the number of Galactus' abilities are not being called into question. The claim that he's totally impervious to damage and completely omniscient are.
Dude i'm not talking about Galactus!!!!

I'm talking about kal-El Prime known as Gold Prime.

His travels lasted from the 21st Century, and ended somewhere at the turn of the 700th Century. During his travels, he acquired vast abilities and skills from across the universe. When he returned he forged a covenant with his descendants, he would bestow upon them a small fraction of his power as long as they served for truth and justice. After the covenant he left and returned into his fortress of solitude in the centre of the Super Sun. The time he spent in the sun magnified his already great power to infinite levels. His strength and other countless abilities he gained also rose to unknown levels from the time he spent in the sun.
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